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SpiritWarrior 10-08-2003 01:29 AM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...p/davis_recall

So I finally don't have to hear about this damn recall anymore. Arnie actually won it, who knew? Hey, I think he'll be good, people are sick of politicians.

Cristian 10-08-2003 01:33 AM

true maybe he will be good i am sick of politicans and this is a fresh start but it would help if he would now anything about politics right? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Harkoliar 10-08-2003 01:36 AM

we shall see .. only his actions will tell his true intent

Firestormalpha 10-08-2003 01:39 AM

Cristian, do you know for a fact that he doesn't know about politics, or is this another one of those "actors-know-nothing-about-the-real-world" prejudices? I'm sure he'll be fine, if he does know anything about politics. Then again alot of the problems with our government is the politics. Most politicians are more concerned with their power than with actually making things better. They do enough to keep the people happy with them. (note: I'm not talk about all politicians, just a lot of them.)

P.S. According to my sister (who's words I hold in abeyence for indeterminable periods of time.) claims A.S. is a jerk in person. How she came by this knowledge is beyond me.

[ 10-08-2003, 01:41 AM: Message edited by: Firestormalpha ]

Cristian 10-08-2003 01:51 AM

well FireStormAlpha i havent heard anything about him reading about politics or whatever going to some school for it i think he mostly has done acting in his life..

Dagorion 10-08-2003 02:24 AM

Well, if I recall correctly, before he got really in to acting he was a very scholarly person for several years, putting off his ambitions while he studied. It could be possible that Arnie actually DOES know something about governing. :eek: Although that waits to be seen...

Besides, was there REALLY any question of Arnie NOT becoming Governor, with all the publicity (and women) in his campaign added to his huge fame I don’t think the other candidates stood a chance.

Timber Loftis 10-08-2003 02:35 AM

Dagorion, you may want to delete one of those posts.

Let us hope Arnie really cuts through the BS as he says he will. As for political knowledge, check his campaign site. I linked it in the <s>circular discussions</s> Current Events forum under the Arnie thread. What HE knows is not so important so long as he has good advisors/planners (a lesson GWB knows well) -- and you'll see from his site he's taken a stance on several issues. Let's hope he follows through.

Timber Loftis 10-08-2003 03:19 AM

Quote from AOL News:
Quote:

Davis said he spoke to Schwarzenegger by phone and offered his support during the transition to a new administration.

''I am calling on everyone in this state to put the chaos and the division of the recall behind us and do what's right for this great state of California,'' he said.

As Davis spoke Schwarzenegger's name, people in the crowd said ''Recall! Recall!'' But Davis held up his hand and said ''No, no.''

Schwarzenegger declared victory during a celebration at the Century Plaza Hotel, where he was introduced by Jay Leno, host of ''The Tonight Show With Jay Leno,'' where he announced his candidacy just two months ago.

''I came here with absolutely nothing, and California has given me absolutely everything. And today, California has given me the greatest gift. You have given me your trust for voting for me,'' he said, surrounded by his wife, Maria Shriver, mother-in-law Eunice Shriver, and other Shriver and Kennedy relatives.

''I will do everything I can to live up to that trust. I will not fail you, I will not disappoint you, and I will not let you down.''

With 46 percent of precincts reporting, the recall was favored by 2,054,227 voters, or 54.3 percent, and opposed by 1,728,764, or 45.7 percent.
1. That's very professional and curteous of Davis. Shows good character.
2. That's very honest and admirable from Arnold. Shows good character.
Let's just hope CA can turn its economy around.

Kakero 10-08-2003 05:27 AM

He won? so I guess there won't be any Terminator 4 movie then?

Link 10-08-2003 06:59 AM

Nope ;) It's free fitness for everyone and a Mister Universe competition at least once a month :D

GokuZool 10-08-2003 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
He won? so I guess there won't be any Terminator 4 movie then?
I don't see why not. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

Jorath Calar 10-08-2003 07:54 AM

I'm both glad and disapointed he won, glad cause I really want to see what he can do, and dissapointed cause I was hoping he would end his "defeat" speech with "I'll be back"

[img]smile.gif[/img]

Dreamer128 10-08-2003 08:26 AM

Terminator 4: Election Day.
Coming to States near you, in a few years...

Zuvio 10-08-2003 08:45 AM

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For the record here: Arnold got a bachelor degree in international business/economics through correspondence classes at the university of Wisonsin-Superior, just to back up his resume! So he's not completely clueless!
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Yorick 10-08-2003 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cristian:
well FireStormAlpha i havent heard anything about him reading about politics or whatever going to some school for it i think he mostly has done acting in his life..
Then he's perfect for the job. ;)

Have you heard of Ronald Regan BTW?

Yorick 10-08-2003 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zuvio:
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For the record here: Arnold got a bachelor degree in international business/economics through correspondence classes at the university of Wisonsin-Superior, just to back up his resume! So he's not completely clueless!
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And winning Mr.Universe shows dedication, focus and drive in making a decision to go after something despite pain and hardship.

Zuvio 10-08-2003 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Zuvio:
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For the record here: Arnold got a bachelor degree in international business/economics through correspondence classes at the university of Wisonsin-Superior, just to back up his resume! So he's not completely clueless!
</font>

And winning Mr.Universe shows dedication, focus and drive in making a decision to go after something despite pain and hardship. </font>[/QUOTE]<font color=lightgreen>
That could very well be his latest campaign-slogan. You working for him Yorick?! :D
</font>

Leonis 10-08-2003 10:59 AM

Good on him. Isn't that what you Americans and 'I Don't Careicans' aspire to?
Any dude can make it in the USA. From the poor homeless woman to the immigrant Austrian muscleman?

Anyone against Arnie is unAmerican in principle...

Donut 10-08-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:

Have you heard of Ronald Regan BTW?

Ow! Bad analogy Yorick!

SpiritWarrior 10-08-2003 01:21 PM

I see it this way: If someone who studied the ins & outs of politics, sat in parties and followed world events all his life, has done nothing and is being ousted because of it then Arnie can only do better [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Xen 10-08-2003 02:43 PM

WOW! The Governator actually won? I didn`t think he would...
"Hasta la vista [insert X`s name here]... :D "

Gangrell 10-08-2003 05:36 PM

If you've ever listened to him on Tv during debations (not the recent ones as of late), he is actually very smart and knows quite a bit about goverment. Just because he has done action movies doesn't mean he's got rocks in his head.

Link 10-08-2003 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
If you've ever listened to him on Tv during debations (not the recent ones as of late), he is actually very smart and knows quite a bit about goverment. Just because he has done action movies doesn't mean he's got rocks in his head.
He certainly does talk as if he has got rocks in his head ;)
I'm not an opponent of Schwarzenegger, but you can never trust a politician. Even when they look solid and trustworthy and good in a debate, that says nothing. Marketing strategy is everything these days.. *sigh*

Dreamer128 10-08-2003 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gangrell:
If you've ever listened to him on Tv during debations (not the recent ones as of late), he is actually very smart and knows quite a bit about goverment. Just because he has done action movies doesn't mean he's got rocks in his head.

He certainly does talk as if he has got rocks in his head ;)
I'm not an opponent of Schwarzenegger, but you can never trust a politician. Even when they look solid and trustworthy and good in a debate, that says nothing. Marketing strategy is everything these days.. *sigh*
</font>[/QUOTE]Do I detect a link to Dutch politics here? ;)

Link 10-08-2003 05:54 PM

I don't know what you're talking about! :D

(or should I just stick with : "No comment."?)

Dreamer128 10-08-2003 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Link:
I don't know what you're talking about! :D

(or should I just stick with : "No comment."?)

Raises his crucifix. Argh! CDA!
Seriously, just check out http://www.davidrietveld.nl/balkenendepraat.html

Yorick 10-08-2003 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Yorick:

Have you heard of Ronald Regan BTW?

Ow! Bad analogy Yorick! </font>[/QUOTE]Why? You don't think Regan used his acting skills while President? ;)

Yorick 10-08-2003 10:27 PM

Here's the thing. People are saying that Arnie knows nothing about politics.... Why should someone know about politics? Shouldn't they know how to run a large company? Shouldn't they have moral agendas or be able to balance finances? Inspire those around them with visionary leadership? Wouldn't these be more valuable skills than knowing about backnifing, doubledealing, partyroom mechanics and breaking promises? The trouble with governments are the politics.

Doesn't Arnie own a couple of companies? Planet Hollywood etc? If he can save Californias economy, and inspire people into working for that shared vision, he's doing his job. He doesn't have to be a politician to run a state.

Gab 10-08-2003 11:00 PM

He might only be governor for 4 years and return to acting. I liked him better as an actor.

[ 10-08-2003, 11:01 PM: Message edited by: Gab ]

CerebroDragon 10-09-2003 01:35 AM

I say well done Mr Schwarznegger and good hardiness as a politician to thee! But the whole Governor appointment scenario hasn't been without its amusements. I mean after all, he did beat Mary Carey to the job! [img]smile.gif[/img]

The quotable Arnie on the departing Governor:
"He has terminated our jobs, he has terminated our economy.
Now its time for us to terminate him!"
:D Ahh, the cheesiness of it all.

Two years into his governance, and a reporter says "Stay thy hand fair Governor, ye shall grope no more", to which the apt reply from The Last Action Hero was: "Who said I was fair?" rattatatatatatatataatata! :D
[img]graemlins/shooter08.gif[/img]

"To be or not to be", "Not to be"...rattattatatatatatatata!

Knock knock Californians, Arnie's here to "stick around"! :D

[ 10-09-2003, 01:37 AM: Message edited by: CerebroDragon ]

Zuvio 10-09-2003 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamer128:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Link:
I don't know what you're talking about! :D

(or should I just stick with : "No comment."?)

Raises his crucifix. Argh! CDA!
Seriously, just check out http://www.davidrietveld.nl/balkenendepraat.html
</font>[/QUOTE]<font color=skyblue>
It would've been fun, except for the fact that his head is life-size on my monitor, which I loathe....

And besides, the american 'Hear-Bush-Speech-Generator' is much fancier because the guy actually talks :D
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