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ratchild 08-05-2003 01:52 PM

Is there going to be an Ironworks Lionheart forumn? I'm looking at it's other forumns elsewhere, and they are full of whiney flamers bashing the game. Ironworks is a much better forumn than that, and i'd like a nice pleasant discussion w/o juveniles [img]smile.gif[/img]
Just curious [img]smile.gif[/img]
rat

Micah Foehammer 08-05-2003 02:12 PM

Has the Interplay Forum for Lionheart degenerated THAT badly????? Not that I wouldn't mind an IW Lionheart forum. ;)

ratchild 08-05-2003 02:21 PM

Yeah, it's bad. Since the release of the demo, all the juvies who should be in school can't whine about combat or this or that enough. Come to think of it, Fallout should have boards here too [img]smile.gif[/img] Those are examples of a superb RPG series.

TheCrimsomBlade 08-05-2003 04:18 PM

I'd really like to see a forum here also. I have the pre-order Bonus Gameplay CD sitting (in its box)on top of my computer Display screen. Where else would you expect a Black Isle game to be than here at Ironworks?
It's to bad that Black Isle opened up the forums for Lionheart a month to soon, every spamer and RPG flamer on the internet has distroyed the site before the game was even really ready.
If Ziroc opens up a forum here it wont be until the game is on the shelf and alot more people ask for it. For those of you that have the Boxed pre-game disk it comes with 4 character trading cards, my wife said that Arnaud the Feralkin looks like me. Well my hair is a little darker and my toes are not that long! but otherwise I can't argue with her I've always been big and ugly. :D

[ 08-05-2003, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: TheCrimsomBlade ]

ratchild 08-05-2003 05:24 PM

Does anyone know if you will get that cd if you preordered directly from interplay? I didn't recieve anything about it in their confirmation email or anything.
Thanks

Kakero 08-05-2003 06:25 PM

The demo was that bad? I was looking forward for it. or maybe the real version is different.

wellard 08-05-2003 06:46 PM

Could some one give a review on this thread? maybe a brief background too. I for one hope it's a good game. It would be to much to expect anything as good as BG2 though.

johnny 08-05-2003 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wellard:
Could some one give a review on this thread? maybe a brief background too. I for one hope it's a good game. It would be to much to expect anything as good as BG2 though.
You mean a review from the game, or better.. a preview ? Here's one for ya.

Reeka 08-05-2003 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wellard:
Could some one give a review on this thread? maybe a brief background too. I for one hope it's a good game. It would be to much to expect anything as good as BG2 though.
A couple of people at my forum played the demo and reviewed it over there. They are not "juvies" and they both hated it and trashed it. You can go have a read if you want to. I was looking forward to it too, but it sounds like it needs serious work.

johnny 08-05-2003 07:23 PM

People said the same thing about Neverwinternights at first, but it's still a good game. If you start comparing everything with Baldurs gate, i'm afraid a lot of games will dissapoint you. I'm pretty sure when i have Lionheart, i'll have lots of hours of fun with the game. I'm not interrested in the rants of others about a game, i'll have to see it with my own eyes.

[ 08-05-2003, 07:23 PM: Message edited by: johnny ]

Jorath Calar 08-05-2003 08:38 PM

Well Said johnny. One of the reason Ironworks is the only gaming board I go to is that you can live perfectly spoilerfree of games you want to try out... and people actually maintain discussion about the games that border on human intellect... [img]smile.gif[/img]

I'm going to try the demo and see how I like it before I read any reviews or rants...

Luvian 08-06-2003 01:06 AM

I didn't read all the posts in this thread, but I'd like to give my opinion on the game.

When I got the demo when it first came out, I was planning on making a review of it, but I had computer problems and it's been days since then. So I'll just keep it short and go get my internet fix.

In short, I was disapointed. I really liked the character creation. All those races and background were cool.

My problem come from the game itself. I found the graphics and controls to be akward.

Characters move extermly fast. So fast that I could never target them with spells or ranged weapons before then were standing right next to me and pounding me.

I also didn't like the interface. It's all split up. I like it when there is an inventory screen including items descriptions and possibly a paperdoll of some sort, and I like to have one clear status screen, not one divided in 3-4 parts. One thing that I found REALLY annoyng is the fact that there is no info screen at all for your followers.

I would have liked this game a lot if it had used the engine of Fallout or Baldur's gate, but I didn't like the Lionheart engine. The setting is interesting, but the game remind of Pool of Radiance II with the attribute system of Fallout.

I heard the demo is very old and the finished game will be a lot better. I hope so. I'm really interested in the idea of the game, but would not pay for a complete version of this demo.

Edit: Oh yeah! There is one thing I really disliked about this game. When you are in a dialog with an npc, beside each posible dialog choices, there is an icon representing the effect of that choice. So you know in advance if what you are about to say will make the npc attack you, trade with you, or if you are succesfully using diplomacy on him. This really remove all the fun from the game for me.

[ 08-06-2003, 01:11 AM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

Rokenn 08-06-2003 11:41 AM

I downloaded the demo last night and messed around with it for a couple of hours. I enjoyed it. I was annoyed by some of the things mentioned (enemies moving too fast, inventory screens taking too much room). I hope in the final they allow for higher res settings. As the default one is way too low [img]smile.gif[/img]

I would have liked the combat system more if it was closer to the Fallout 2 turn based model, but it was not too bad.

Edit:
PS- shouldn't a mod move this to the correct forum?

[ 08-06-2003, 11:42 AM: Message edited by: Rokenn ]

Stratos 08-06-2003 03:31 PM

I played the demo as well for a few hours and it's not that lousy, but I do agree on the characters quick movements. Battle is only a blur of people pounding away at each other.

I would say the game is a hybrid of Fallout and Arcanum.

Raistlin Majere 08-07-2003 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
The demo was that bad? I was looking forward for it. or maybe the real version is different.
Usually demos suck. from experience, ive noticed that, for some reason, demos usually contain the worst part of the game. thats why ive stopped playing them(for gods sake, i almost didnt buy BG2 after i played the demo!). *now off to DL the demo :D *


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