what do you think is the worst crime known to mankind?
i can think of one crime that is by far the worst and most disgusting of them all. i belive raping is much, much worse than anykind of Ossu Binnu(Osama)crime because the reason why you do a crime is the most important thing.
I feel sorry for the women in South Africa. i heard raping is.. erm, "popular" there(EVERY SECOND woman has been raped).

[ 06-06-2002, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: uss ]

my vote goes to random murder...dunno the official term for it

rape is way up there too, but people can recover from that...murder is so...final. not many people recover from murder.

and the fact that the victim doesnt even know the attacker makes it twice as bad, imo.

pedophilia (sp?) is by far the worst crime.
To do such a terrible thing to a child and to completely ruin their lives is a horrible thing to do, and should give a definite death penalty!

yes, but the reason of random murder is that the attacker is crazy or something, the reason of raping is a persons personal desire for sex.

<font color="cyan">I bet someone takes offence at the humerous sight comment.

I disagree, raping, or any other crime is no where as bad as murder. You can recover from being raped. You can recover from being stolen from, but if you are murdered,its over.

Sorry for the way that came out, it's a weird thing to answer.</font>

<font color="cyan">Better that than dead...

And about my other response, no1 had replied when I typed that!</font>

[ 06-06-2002, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Lavindathar ]

You have a strange sense of humour then.

My vote goes to paedophilia as well. Thats just sick, and I think paedophiles deserve death. Well actualy they deserve worse than that, but that would be sinking to their level. Part of the way anyway.

ah, i forgot about that crime.
ReGiN, recently in Estonia, a horrible pedophilia crime happened. a 13 year old boy(not me!! nor was it any of my classmates!!) took about six 1 month - 6 year old children inside an old wooden house in a forest and raped them. the worst thing is that he might not get ANY punishment at all because there aren`t any rules about pedophilia which is caused by a child! all of the victims mothers tore down the wooden house. fortunatelly, one of the victims fathers is threatening to kill the bastardly perv and the boy is even afraid to go out of his house. cruel, yes, but the asshole deserves much more of a punishment than that.

You have a strange sense of humour then.

My vote goes to paedophilia as well. Thats just sick, and I think paedophiles deserve death. Well actualy they deserve worse than that, but that would be sinking to their level. Part of the way anyway.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="cyan">
told you someone would have a go!

IMPO, I can't see how anything is worse than ending somebodys life. If you were a victim of paedophilia, you can recover, and have some sort of a life. If you're dead, you can't. Ending someones life is the worst.</font>

ah, i forgot about that crime.
ReGiN, recently in Estonia, a horrible pedophilia crime happened. a 13 year old boy(not me!! nor was it any of my classmates!!) took about six 1 month - 6 year old children inside an old wooden house in a forest and raped them. the worst thing is that he might not get ANY punishment at all because there aren`t any rules about pedophilia which is caused by a child! all of the victims mothers tore down the wooden house. fortunatelly, one of the victims fathers is threatening to kill the bastardly perv and the boy is even afraid to go out of his house. cruel, yes, but the asshole deserves much more of a punishment than that.</font>[/QUOTE]God, that's just horrible. In that particular case I think it would be for the boy's own good if they kill him.

ah, i forgot about that crime.
ReGiN, recently in Estonia, a horrible pedophilia crime happened. a 13 year old boy(not me!! nor was it any of my classmates!!) took about six 1 month - 6 year old children inside an old wooden house in a forest and raped them. the worst thing is that he might not get ANY punishment at all because there aren`t any rules about pedophilia which is caused by a child! all of the victims mothers tore down the wooden house. fortunatelly, one of the victims fathers is threatening to kill the bastardly perv and the boy is even afraid to go out of his house. cruel, yes, but the asshole deserves much more of a punishment than that.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="cyan">Hmmmm, the laws do need to be refined. They don't think kids can do that to someone so young, that rule is there because every act of underage sex wud be classed as paedophilia if it existed. That's stupid.

Yes, that is sick, and he should be punished. On the bright side, they might be young enough to forget about it and lead a normal life. They won't understand.</font>

[ 06-06-2002, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: Lavindathar ]

You have a strange sense of humour then.
</font>[/QUOTE]its actually even hard to imagine a man being raped by a woman. ok, it even isnt possible, but i wont bring up the details why not.

Well, first up paedophiles kill their victims fairly frequently - which has to be a fairly nasty way to go. And second up the survivors have a fairly high suicide rate, which is an indication of how bad it must be. At least with most murders its fairly quick.

And I wasnt having a go at uss, just noting he has a decidedly poor sense of taste.

how about the murder of 6 million jews in less than a decade ?

You have a strange sense of humour then.
</font>[/QUOTE]its actually even hard to imagine a man being raped by a woman. ok, it even isnt possible, but i wont bring up the details why not.</font>[/QUOTE]Actualy it is possible for a woman to rape a man, but the mods woudnt like this discussion to get any more detailed. If you have a dirty enough mind you can probly figure it out.

Thats wasnt a crime, it was an atrocity. Its in a whole different category. And no-one individual or group can be blamed for the whole problem (Not even Hitler), it was a massive operation with thousands of perpetrators.

i dont think it really was 6 million. methinks it was less *coughpropagandacough*

but think of a crime which is done to one person.

ah, i forgot about that crime.
ReGiN, recently in Estonia, a horrible pedophilia crime happened. a 13 year old boy(not me!! nor was it any of my classmates!!) took about six 1 month - 6 year old children inside an old wooden house in a forest and raped them. the worst thing is that he might not get ANY punishment at all because there aren`t any rules about pedophilia which is caused by a child! all of the victims mothers tore down the wooden house. fortunatelly, one of the victims fathers is threatening to kill the bastardly perv and the boy is even afraid to go out of his house. cruel, yes, but the asshole deserves much more of a punishment than that.</font>[/QUOTE]God, that's just horrible. In that particular case I think it would be for the boy's own good if they kill him.</font>[/QUOTE]i think so too.
oh, and some additional info: the boys family had been very wierd also. the boy has had sex with her own mother and sister or something like that.

btw, will this thread get locked? considering the sick conversation, i think it will.

You have a strange sense of humour then.
</font>[/QUOTE]its actually even hard to imagine a man being raped by a woman. ok, it even isnt possible, but i wont bring up the details why not.</font>[/QUOTE]Actualy it is possible for a woman to rape a man, but the mods woudnt like this discussion to get any more detailed. If you have a dirty enough mind you can probly figure it out.</font>[/QUOTE]it is possible but very difficult.. lets not talk about that anymore.

Thats wasnt a crime, it was an atrocity. Its in a whole different category. And no-one individual or group can be blamed for the whole problem (Not even Hitler), it was a massive operation with thousands of perpetrators.</font>[/QUOTE]well, it WAS only one guy who was in charge of the whole thing, so imo he's the one to blame.

<font color="cyan">And it wont get locked as long as we keep it clean, and on topic, without spouting stupid comments that could offend or upset people.

And theoretically, a woman could rape a man. Same way a man could rape a woman. Drugs etc are a way to avert physical confrontation.
But, technically, IIRC in England, a woman cannot rape a man. This is something to do with the law doesn't recognise that a woman can rape a man. I'm not sure if this is true, but I remembered it to be.</font>

These 5 of the worst crimes imo.

1.The Twin Towers incedent(sp?).
2.Kidnapping
3.Hacking
4.Rape *shudders*
5.Murder.

EDIT: I just thought of a sixth one.
6.Hate Crimes(Like what the kkk did.)

[ 06-06-2002, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: SomeGuy ]

Thats wasnt a crime, it was an atrocity. Its in a whole different category. And no-one individual or group can be blamed for the whole problem (Not even Hitler), it was a massive operation with thousands of perpetrators.</font>[/QUOTE]well, it WAS only one guy who was in charge of the whole thing, so imo he's the one to blame.</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe , maybe not. If someone told you to jump in a fire, would you? If the nation wanted to revolt, they could have probably (i dont know this, I wasnt there). Someone close could have ended Hitlers reign, but they didn't.

A manager isn't soley responsible for a teams performance, the players must play.</font>

<font color="#3399cc">That number pales in comparison to the number of murders committed by Stalin and Pol Pot. I believe Stalin's body count was around 15 million or so and Pol Pot was 2 - 3 million Sorry I got Pol Pot confused with someone else..working on the numbers now. Still 2-3 million due to the actions of a single man is significant. The Japanese Miltary is responsible for millions of rapes during World War 2 as they saw women as theirs for the taking all accross the South Pacific.</font>

[ 06-06-2002, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

As I have said before, nothing is worse than taking someones life, no matter how bad. At least they are alive that way.

Secondly, I dnt think the thread wanted examples, even though Johhny brought one in first. And the Twin Towers wasn't really a crime, it was a symbol of the American downfall (in the eyes of the perpetraitors(sp)). It wasn't planned to kill as many as possible, it was intended to show the Americans could be brought to their knees. Admittedly, they knew lives would be taken, but I don't think it can be classed as a crime. More an act of war.</font>

Hmmm.You probly right Lavindather(sp?)

I think pedophilia is perhaps the worst crime. Yes, murder is permanent.... but you know what? Once you are dead, you're dead. Nothing hurts you anymore. Abuse of any kind hurts a person physically, emotionally, spiritually, and mentally long beyond the end of the abusive period. Children are particularly helpless because of size, innocence, and their utter dependence on others. The abuse they suffer affects their self-image and every bit of how they relate to other people and the world. They may have problems for the rest of their lives in maintaining any relationship, but especially a sexual one. They may become abusers themselves after being systematically abused, perpetuating the cycle (which is one effect you don't get with murder). The abuse from pedophilia may, even if murder is not involved, cause irrevokable damage to the organs and prevent any chance of fertility.

Yes, people survive. But how well?

i dont think it really was 6 million. methinks it was less *coughpropagandacough*

but think of a crime which is done to one person.</font>[/QUOTE]I think it WAS over six million and it WAS the greatest crime ever. And it was commited by Nazi scumbags AND we need to put these scumbags down where ever they raise their scumbag heads! Even if they are children. *coughbollockscough*

yes, but the reason of random murder is that the attacker is crazy or something, the reason of raping is a persons personal desire for sex.</font>[/QUOTE]Sorry I disagree. Rape is mostly considered a crime of violence.

Mark

Hmm, Uss, first off, does it really matter if it was or wasn't 6 million?
There are so many different reports, that's one of the disturbing parts of the holocaust, no-one knows exactly how many died, some say near a million, other's go up to 20 million or more, and if you're going to throw the word propaganda around, how about some other propaganda that's been spouted by some people of the past.

<UL><LI>We true breds are a separate race called Aryans, and we are superior to all others on this earth.
<LI>Homosexuals, jews, disabled people and the mentally unstable should be killed.
<LI>It is the right thing to do, a duty to our country to take over Poland etc.
<UL>
Sound familiar to you?

Thats wasnt a crime, it was an atrocity. Its in a whole different category. And no-one individual or group can be blamed for the whole problem (Not even Hitler), it was a massive operation with thousands of perpetrators.</font>[/QUOTE]well, it WAS only one guy who was in charge of the whole thing, so imo he's the one to blame.</font>[/QUOTE]Maybe , maybe not. If someone told you to jump in a fire, would you? If the nation wanted to revolt, they could have probably (i dont know this, I wasnt there). Someone close could have ended Hitlers reign, but they didn't.

A manager isn't soley responsible for a teams performance, the players must play.</font></font>[/QUOTE]oh, but they tried, remember they tried to bomb him ? Just didn't work out. And if someone tells me to jump in a fire, i tell him he has to wait untill i finished my beer, and after that he can kiss my butt.

I think that the greates crime known to mankind is SELF IMPORTANCE. When you think that your way is the only way or that everything you do is right , that is self importance. Genocide is a form of self importance because someone thinks that only the people they deem fit to live should. Religeon is a form of self importance because almost every one claims to have the absolute truth. Murder, robbery and rape are all form of self importance because the person who does these things thinks that they are ok to do , simply because they can do them. If people considered how the things they do will affect others I think the world would be an easier place to live in.

any crime against a child...any harm done to a child be it sexual, physical or emotional.

uss?do you think before you say these things?
actually magic i think it was something like one million.but what makes it really bad was that cambodia only had a population of five million.
no,lavindathar,they did try to kill as many people as possible.if these animals got a nuke where do you think they would detonate it?juneau?bismark?no,they would go for a place like d.c.,new york,or l,a.

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to me,personally,murder is the worst crime.because you can't heal the dead,while you can help those who were molested.

I remember reading years ago about a case here in the US where there a Judge ruled that a man can not be raped by a woman. The reasoning was that a man must be willing for the ummm........mechanisms to work.

A woman can definately rape a man . It just takes a strap and something to put on it. No one ever said it had to be tab "A" and slot "B"

yees, it does. if you want to talk about this, please start a new topic.

I dont think there *is* a worst crime; there are several very sick ones, some of which are as contemptable as each other; I find that mass murder is as vile as raping, or some other crimes I dont want to go into; even the thought of them makes me feel psychally sick. there are some very sick ppl out there. I dont know about the rest of you, but I feel that some crimes cant be 'rated'. I dont think I can write anymore on this topic, I already feel sick.

Hate crimes are b.s. If a black guy kills another black guy doesnt he deserve as much punishment as a lynch mobber [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

[ 06-07-2002, 04:25 AM: Message edited by: caleb ]

Ditto Pastry.

And I believe there's something worse than taking someone's life, it's taking someone's dignity. Killing people in a fair battle is one thing, there you have a chance, but what the Nazi did was slaughter people like cattle, people they tried to make appear as being not really human. Spirit wounds are much worse than physical ones.

IMO, the worst crime is torture - inclusing rape and paedophilia in that category.