Hey, I just saw it!

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I just have one word that sums up the movie in my opinion.

YODA

Does he kick arse or what?! :D [img]smile.gif[/img]

In the words of another guy in the cinema (a group of us were cheering Yoda on)

"I'll never look at Yoda the same again." :D

Was a pretty cool moive. The part where Yoda fights was awsome!

Too much of a love story for my taste though, and the acting could have been better. But overall a pretty good moive.

It was a total suprise for me too. He walks in, and YEAH!! We all cheered!

He looked so cute when he was exerting himself with "chi" to stop the pillar from crushing Anakin and Obi Wan... why, the cinema was snickering away :D

And I can't remember if his light sabre was specially shortened to suit his height [img]tongue.gif[/img]

The funniest part was when he emerged victorious and yet the first thing he did was to grab his walking stick [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Star Wars II The comicbook: what a complete waste of fine toiletpaper.
(and part I for that matter also)

Yoda was victorious?

I thought the score ended

Count Dooga ------- 2½
Jedis ------------- ½

After all Count Dooga (aka Lord Tyranus :rolleyes: ) got away

All the sabre fights were cool - thats one thing the prequel trilogy definatly suceeds at - but Yodas were the coolest by far. And he did have a small sabre. Yoda throughout the entire film was cool though.

I saw it last night! Packed cinema, everyone cheered when Yoda walked into that scene. He got a huge round of applause and cheering after the fight!

I thought it was a much better film than EpI - the Jedi battling in the arena was an awesome scene - lightsabres everywhere, cool.

When I saw Yoda start to fight I started laughing. He looked so funny jumping around and swinging his small lightsabre [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] . Was it meant to be a serious bit or what? I mean what is the point of Yoda using a walking stick if he can jump around and fight like that.

:D

It looked alot smaller to me [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img]

Yoda's fight was funny because when he was fighting count Dooku (sp?) he was like a dragonball z character and when it finished he got his stick and hobbled off like he has got a twisted ankle or something.

But overall, I cant wait for episode 3, its gunna be great :D . any predictions on what the title is going to be?, I think somthing allong the grounds of 'The Rise of the Sith' or The fall of the Jedi'

Suggestions?

The end of jar-jar [img]smile.gif[/img]

i can see it now:
Jar-Jar: Mesa so happy to see you!
Obi-Wan: The empire is all your fault! DIE!
Jar-Jar: Mesa no under...AAAAAHHHHHH!

I was actually quite disappointed in Ep2. There were good bits, like the Yoda scene at the end, the Janga Fett scene (I'm a big fan of Temuera Morrison ever since I saw Once Were Warriors), and the gladiator scenes. I thought the special effects were outstanding.

What I was disappointed in was the fact that there was so much filler in the rest of the movie...it seemed to meander around without any plot. The romance between Amidala and Anakin was a joke. Seriously, Hayden Christensen needs to pick up a "How To Act In Three Quick Steps" book - a piece of plywood would have conveyed more emotion than he did. I REFUSE to believe that a spoiled, shrimpy little kid like him will end up becoming Da Vader - you've gotta be joking. There is ZERO chemistry between him and Natalie Portman - if I was him and Natalie was a girl I was dating I would be getting worried - no positive vibes, no negative vibes, just...no vibes.

Nobody in the film really grabbed me except Yoda (and maybe Ewan McGregor). Isn't it a bit sad when a CGI character can elicit more emotion than his flesh-and-blood counterparts? And Yoda WAS brilliant - his impersonation of an angry, lightsabre-armed gnat in the fight with Count Dooku (who I thought was ok but too one-dimensional - we never find out the WHY or the HOW of this guy) was quite outstanding and nearly salvaged the entire film for me.

Maybe my expectations of the film were too high - but I just felt that it was so much like a "tweener" film - between episodes.

Or maybe it was the fact that I went and saw it at 11 pm on a Sunday night to beat the crowds, booked a La Premiere booth with my sister (it cost me $60 for two tickets for comfy seats - normally 2 tix are $28, free popcorn, drinks, etc) again to beat the crowds, get there at 10:45 to find that there were NO crowds and the cinema was half-full and the movie went on for 2 1/2 hours plus previews so I got out of there at two am and all I could think of was "what a SHOCKER!!!". [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Anyway...just my 2c, don't be biased by my experience. :D

[ 05-30-2002, 09:17 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

I'm with you Memnoch. Points well taken.
I was disappointed with the plot of Dookoo being a Darth Sidious underling myself. It would have made a more tragic tale if he was a free agent. Who was good? Who was bad? Oh the colours blur....

Not in Star Wars. Sidious is all bad. It's all the fault of one man. Right?

I agree about the romance. At one point I was in the film thinking "This is really boring, and really bad. I'm bummed."

But then it cranked up. The plot sped up. The sabre scenes, the arena, Dookoo et al.

But the trump card was YODA. It turned around the experience for me. I left the cinema feeling really happy.

The different worlds left a good impression as well. The cinematography was wonderful.

Anyhow Mem, I'd suggest seeing it again. Episode I was better for me the second time. I went in with high expectations the first time, and came out disappointed. The second, I went in knowing the reality, and enjoyed it.

With this film, I went in not expecting a great flick - I'd heard bad reports about the acting (Suprise suprise. Star Wars? Bad acting? How can that be?) - but came out very pleasantly suprised.

I'll be seeing it again for SURE!!!

Oh, I'll be seeing it again, never fear - but on DVD this time, where all I pay is $5. ;)

Memnoch, I agree with a lot of your points.

As far as actors go, Temuera Morrison was superb - I too thought he was excellent in Once Were Warriors (which is an OUTSTANDING film, of course it was sidelined here as an 'ethnic' film :rolleyes: some things never change). Ewan McGregor is an excellent actor, I can't think of a single thing he's done badly - Shallow Grave and Trainspotting are amongst my favorite films. Hayden Christensen sucked bigtime. You are right, no chemistry between him and Natalie Portman (I thought she was good in Leon, despite her youth), their romance was completely unbelievable. People in the cinema actually laughed at some of the lines, not a good sign. And his 'dark side' moments just weren't dark enough.

The criticism I had on leaving the theatre was that there wasn't enough depth and intrigue to the plot. We could have done with more twists and turns, a couple of side-plots to keep up the suspense, that sort of thing.

The scene in the robot construction place on the conveyor belt was a bit too Indiana Jones for my liking. Not that I have anything against Indiana Jones, but there's a time and a place. Similarly the 'car-chase' scene (for want of a better description) at the beginning seemed to be lifted almost straight out of Besson's 'The Fifth Element' - did anyone else think that?

Having said that, it was the mass battles that made the film for me, and they did make up for the nitpicks I have about plot and acting!

Heh, I thought he resembled a pesky fly that just couldn't be swatted [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

I found the cutscenes rather abrupt; before I could really sink into the atmosphere of one, it was yanked off and another was shoved in forcibly. And yes, Anakin whined too much; I can't imagine why Amidala would have loved him. Maybe he was the only young man around that was not disciplined enough (Obi Wan is so much more charismatic).

[ 05-30-2002, 09:56 AM: Message edited by: mistral4543 ]

Yep its a shame he and the guy that played uncle bully usually get bit parts in american movies.

Whats so special about those booths to cost that much?

Whats so special about those booths to cost that much?</font>[/QUOTE]1. Free popcorn and softdrinks
2. Comfy seats with perfect view, with lots of personal space
3. Can buy wine, beer and other alcoholic beverages along with cheese etc and take them in
4. Chance to sit away from the plebs (j/k) :D

It's not all it's cracked up to be...unless you're taking a date out and want to have a bit of a snog - you can lift the armrest dividing the two seats. ;)

well, shoot me but i actually liked the love scenes and the dark side parts. i though the acting wasnt that bad too.

on the other hand, i thought the yoda part was a bit ridiculous. i liked much better the suave yoda from the empire strikes back. i hope lucas doesnt make the emperor use his lightsaber in the 3rd. those kind of characters should menace more than they act to keep them regal and imposing. [img]smile.gif[/img]

But we all knew Yoda could fight.

Ok. All you gen X ers. Honesty time

How many of us had a little Yoda star wars action figure and made him fight someone? Hmmmmm??

Hey did anyone get a bladerunner vibe in and around the club/changeling assassin part?

Epona, our cinema groaned and laughed at the line
"I've been dying a little bit each day since you came back into my life...."
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Hayden Christensen 'bad' moments weren't that bad - he really knows how to squint at the camera :rolleyes:

OK - the romance is totally unbelieveble - after 10 years she just falls for 'little Ani'. :rolleyes: - again

my guess on the movie

I am chinese, so I dont understand like 30% of the dialog, which happens to be important. so I got these little guesses in my mind, anyone confirm me?

the dark sith in the republic built the clone army 15 years ago before the episoid 2, in the name of the leader of the Jedi knights. Count Dooku is the one in charge of spliting the republic, like convert trade federation. so when the crsis arises, there is a conveniant army at hand, thus brought absolute control and power to senator (something) which I suspect, and probally everyone knows, is a dark sith lord.

I saw it this past Monday (holiday here in the US). I liked it overall. I do have some criticism:

*Love story was poorly written and acted in my opinion. It was NOT convincing.

*I felt like this Dooku character appeared out of no where. I was thinking who-the-hell-is-he. Never did get a good grasp of what was going on there

*This one and EP1 seemed to lack that almost mythical quality that the middle 3 episodes had.

I do agree that is was very much a "middle episode." It had that quality about it to me.

You got it Leo. [img]smile.gif[/img]

thanks Hugh

but the senator whatever-his-name-is looks so phoney. I am surprised the all-wise Yoda didnt see it for that long time.

anyway, yeah, the romance can be better, but it is absolutely, unlike someone argued, neccessary. thats where our Luke Skywalker come from, after all.

Palpatine. Yeah, agreed. Maybe it's a Dark Side mind camoflage thing,

Yep, that was the one. The cinema was in fits of laughter throughout that scene. IMO a good love scene should have everyone sighing or crying, that particular one deserved every laugh it got. :(

Over here, the audience laughed when he moaned about how he hated sand (sorry, I can't remember the exact words :( )...

I dont like sand, it is rough, irritating, and they gets everywhere. unlike here, everything is smooth.... and soft (touching) :D

250!! :D [img]graemlins/bighug.gif[/img] Thanks for bailing me out on this one [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

welcome, [img]smile.gif[/img] it is always a pleasure to talk to you.

What I don't understand about this movie is. after 10 years, why is everybody ( except Anakin ) still looks the same?

I mean Amidala in Episode II looks exactly like in Episode I
Every Jedi in Episode II looks exactly like in Episode I ( except obi wan konobi who grows a beard )

The only one who is affected by Aging is Anakin, stange no?

I thought the movie was great. Sure the acting by some could have been better *cough*Anakin*cough. And the "love" scenes were a bit lacking. They would've been ok if Hayden Christenson(sp?) was a better actor I think. But the thing that REALLY did it for me was

YODA!!!!!!

My friend had told me that Yoda fought with a lightsaber before I saw it and when I did, I was absolutely stunned. It's kind of ridiculous that Yoda could even put up a fight much less be dominating the fight but then you remember that Yoda is Yoda, high master of all Jedi. And then it makes PERFECT sense. I had made up my mind that if Yoda did not fight with a lightsaber in Ep2 or 3 I was going to boycott Star Wars and George Lucas' whole franchise he has, and attempt to start and anti-Lucas petition ;) . Yoda with a lightsaber is my one Star Wars wish come true [img]smile.gif[/img]

What I thought was very corny was the string of Padowan learners. IIRC Dooku was Yoda's Padowan, Qui-Gon Jinn was Dooku's Padowan, Obi-Wan Kenobi was Qui-Gon's Padowan, and Anakin is Obi-Wan's Padowan. Curious, no?

-Jafin

One word that made the whole movie wothwhile..... YODA (surprise surprise) its like a mouldy oompa-loompa on speed when he gets that lightsaber goin.

If i have to see that lame arse romance scene ever again, someone will be in hurt... much hurt. About halfway through the movie i was trying to find something sharp so i could Hari-Kuri myself... but the main bit that really got to me was seeing my fave character boba fett as a child... i almost wept, it was horrible. Palpatine was good though.

Well I thought it was awesome. Except,like Memneoch said, Hayden should pick up a book on acting.

"One day I'll be the most powerful Jedi ever" Groan

Ever since I heard this line in the trailer, in this spoiled bratty voice, my stomach churns.
I do agree about the romance part too. No chemistry, but it's not like we were expecting anything big from Lucas in that department... [img]smile.gif[/img]

Whats so special about those booths to cost that much?</font>[/QUOTE]1. Free popcorn and softdrinks
2. Comfy seats with perfect view, with lots of personal space
3. Can buy wine, beer and other alcoholic beverages along with cheese etc and take them in
4. Chance to sit away from the plebs (j/k) :D

It's not all it's cracked up to be...unless you're taking a date out and want to have a bit of a snog - you can lift the armrest dividing the two seats. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]Hey, Mem, you forgot about the free coffee and tea !!
( or don't you get that in Sydney ? )

The other main advantage is pre booked seats - no queuing with the aforementioned plebs, either !!

YODA RULES !!!

Though I would have to say his best part in the movie was *not* his lightsabre duel, but his comment to the children in the Jedi training class ..

"Lost a planet, master Obi-wan has - how embarassing ... "

Loved it. Showed a sly and delightful dry sense of humour that suited Yoda 100% !!

Pang [img]graemlins/cat3.gif[/img]

Does anyone know if they have those in theaters in the states? I have never seen one.

The reason these movies are a little lacking is that they are trying to squeeze too much story into three movies. They should have simply bit the bullet and made the episodes longer. They are under more constraints than "A New Hope" was. You'll notice the first SW movie had a nice smooth flow to the unfolding plot. In prequels, you have to constantly look for inconsistencies with the other movies and have to time things to integrate into a past movie. It's not easy and not the best way to do things.