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<H2><font color="plum">Cloudy's Cafe</font></H2>

Come in, be welcome, be comfortable, be yourself

Welcome to Cloudy's Cafe, a place to have a cup of coffee or a good
darjeeling and the finest in conversation and camaraderie.

The proprietor asks that you follow a few simple guidelines:

<H3>this is a real conversation zone, not a role-play zone</H3>

* no flaming; if you disagree with a viewpoint expressed by any patron, please do so in a civil manner

* any topic is fair game, but keep posts to the standards that Ziroc has set for the entire forum, please (ie: foul language is not appropriate and things should be suitable for all audiences)
-a side note from Cloudy: I see this as a place for those short
conversations about a new baby or the latest soccer fiasco, not for things that are big enough to warrant their own threads, by all means give those things the space they need and post separately!

* Please, no one word or smiley posts (Ziroc has declared them 'real spam' and the proprietor doesn't want the reputuation of "good spam" to suffer!)

* do feel free to be serious or silly and enjoy the company of others while you are here. By all means POST if you have something to say, even to start another topic , we can handle multiple chats, we're a CAFE!!! But be courteous and don't disrupt a conversation just to disrupt it.

Come on in! The bar is stocked with coffees, teas, juices and waters from around the world. And purple napkins, of course!

<font color="pink">The lighting is low, the golden oak counters and tables glow with inviting warmth. Near the window, the lighting is brighter, as comfy, plush leather armchairs wait for those who'd like to read a book while relaxing to music or just lazily watch the world go by.</font>

<H1><font color="plum"> PLEASE NOTE </font></H1>

This is a modified reminder that I've posted before in reply to someone asking "can we spam the cafe". It still holds true, so I'm going to repeat it periodically for anyone who hasn't seen it.

Read the first post of the thread, it's NOT a spam zone. If you want to discuss you grades, a problem with a teacher,the weather, your neighbor's new car etc.....etc.. (real life conversations) this is the place. I don't mind a SMALL amount of spam but when the Cafe gets to be 8 pages in one day and it's all one liner pure spam, I have to ask people not to do it because most of the members who would come to talk about their day or things that they want advice or sympathy or cheers on, will not post in that atmosphere. I want you to be comfy here, but not at the expense of other members.

So the answer is NO, I don't want to see page after page of roleplay spam or one liner spamfests that could be done on msn or aim etc. because our goal is to TALK WITH one another , not fill up a cafe in five hours. ;) :D HOWEVER, I'm not gonna jump on anyone for a few of these kinds of things, only if it gets out of hand. :D

First post?

OH YEAH!

This is a cause for celebration, http://www.japander.com/japander/images/schwarz8.jpg

Way ta go Arnie, shake that fan [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Hello all [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-01-2003, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: Sigmar ]

Well, Sigmar, that is certainly an odd pic. Looks like Arnie's trying to woo Lady Z's KungFuGal.

where are you getting all these arnie pix?

Finally someone asked :D

Here- http://www.japander.com

Celebrities performing Japanese adverts :D They're all pretty lame except the Arnie ones...really funny stuff :D

[ 04-01-2003, 03:52 PM: Message edited by: Sigmar ]

Hi all been a while since I have been able to get on here, for some reason I cant log in here from home :( Asked Z about but never got it resolved, ah well so I have to do it from work ;)

Just wanted to let you know we had our son, Young Zachary was born last Monday and weighted in at 7lbs 3 oz and was 20.5 inchs in height [img]smile.gif[/img] Mamma and baby are doing grand, twas a happy day and a got a week off ta boot.
Take care all, and remeber if you cant be with the ones you love, love the ones your with ;) [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Hello all. Question for you. Today I showed my students' their third quarter grades, and one of them received a "D." He believes that the cause of this is because he keeps losing 5 points per test for not placing his hour on the top of the paper. Please note, this is a rule of my cooperating teacher (I'm just the student teacher), and so I'm abiding by this. My cooperating teacher says that he requires labels so he doesn't have to hunt through 150 papers to see where somebody's grade is. My question is this: do you think losing 5 points (per assignment) is fair for neglecting to properly label your work?

My thoughts
yes:
1.) I was required to put my name, the date, the hour, and the assignment on EVERYTHING that was turned in in high school.
2.) It IS a pain to look through class lists just to find where a paper belongs.
3.) You're only losing five points on a fifty-point test
4.) the real world isn't so forgiving, so...

no:
1.) it has caused some students to go from a B- to a C+ on a test, repeatedly
2.) losing points (academics) should probably be separated from behavior, if at all possible.

So again, what do you think? Sorry such a long post...

On the ACT, SAT, PSAT-NMSQT, LSAT, GRE, etc. failure to properly follow instructions can result in an absolute zero. If you can't follow the instructions given to take the exam, you've failed the first hurdle. A student so (a) absent-minded and (b) involved enough to care and complain should be thankful for the help in getting through this, one of life's many little lessons. ;)

that's a very nice picture Sigmar. ;)

so what's up with the moon and the people dancing on stage?

Yaaahh congrats Elif *gives a pat on the back* All the best for young "Z" May he grow up to fullfill that greatest of ambitions. Contentment [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

lets get a pic up on stealthy's [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

Have you got your cookie blocker set at max. if so no posts to ironworks. other than that I'm stuffed [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

OK who stole my bike [img]graemlins/1deadly.gif[/img]

Walks sheepishly into the corner wearing a hat with a "D" on it. [img]graemlins/dunce.gif[/img] Curseing Ziroc and /)eathkiller ...@#$%^ %$$@#@ *&^%% bloody ^%$#@#@$ :rolleyes: [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

" MMMMMM would not mind going for a ride with this sig instead of my motorbike" <font color="steelerblue">*wonders why wife slapped me?*</font> [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

[ 04-01-2003, 08:55 PM: Message edited by: wellard ]

My computer is having some sort of problem with AOL it seems. (See the eathquake screens thread fir my problem. No, my screen does not appear to be having an earthquake.)

It's just an april fool's day joke? It's kind of annoying.

[ 04-01-2003, 09:27 PM: Message edited by: LS0158 ]

Hi everbody!

Sir G, on behalf of everybody now living , who as ever lived, or will ever live in this plane of existence or on any parallel dimensions let me award you a special April 1st edition of <font color=cyan>THE WEEKLY WONDER AWARD</font> Only on such an auspecious day as this can we show you the special regard which all creation holds you.

Hahaha [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Really?! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Ok, that's pretty much how I felt. No pain, no gain. Thanks for the input, TL.

Sir G, you are so good that I expect you will win ever April 1st. :D

Heh perhaps the biker girl wasn't the best idea for a joke [img]tongue.gif[/img] I should've given you a nun on a motorbike instead [img]tongue.gif[/img] Oh well... If you want to switch back, just change the xsk1 whatever that weird bunch of numbers and letters is after members.lycos.co.uk/ - whatever goes here - /the picture.jpg

and just switch that stuff to say "shinokai2"

so http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/shinokai2/

and The same goes for poor sigmar who, instead of getting the world, got the moon [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Heh perhaps the biker girl wasn't the best idea for a joke [img]tongue.gif[/img] I should've given you a nun on a motorbike instead [img]tongue.gif[/img] Oh well... If you want to switch back, just change.
[/QB]</font>[/QUOTE][img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] You got me good [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

ok that still did not work [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

[ 04-02-2003, 06:16 AM: Message edited by: wellard ]

It does now [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Parks his motorbike outside the cafe with an alarm fitted [img]graemlins/alarm.gif[/img] *glares at mr /)eath* [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Good morning cafe dwellers [img]graemlins/goodmorning.gif[/img] Have a great April the SECOND and enjoy a coffee from me.

removes cloudy's whoppee cushion from the chair and sits down [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

"how is everyone's headache"

[ 04-02-2003, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: wellard ]

Good morning, all. Finally able to post again, now that the April 1 strangeness is over. Oh, well. How is everyone. Gammit, I am completely with TL on this one. If you cannot follow simple instructions, you are going to have more than that grade to worry about. I suspect defiance.

Heh perhaps the biker girl wasn't the best idea for a joke [img]tongue.gif[/img] I should've given you a nun on a motorbike instead [img]tongue.gif[/img] Oh well... If you want to switch back, just change the xsk1 whatever that weird bunch of numbers and letters is after members.lycos.co.uk/ - whatever goes here - /the picture.jpg

and just switch that stuff to say "shinokai2"

so http://www.members.lycos.co.uk/shinokai2/

and The same goes for poor sigmar who, instead of getting the world, got the moon [img]tongue.gif[/img] [/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]What are you talking about? I like my new sig...
I also like red hot pokers in my eye...

Oh wait I'm doing that thing again :D When I say like I mean HATE

Fly me to the freaking moon, what were you thinking man :D Change it back, for the benifit of the remaining strands off sanity still present within my mind change it back!

(Those of you who say just tick the no show signature box...are probably right :D But I shall remain defiant!)

[ 04-02-2003, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: Sigmar ]

LOL, Sigmar, that was some practical joke that /)eath played on you. Glad Cerek is not inclined to April Fool's jokes. ;)

And why is that ?

I'm Guessing Cerek hosts his sig.

<font color=steelblue>Good morning. I just got off a 13 hour shift driving cab all nite! Man am I tired! Wont be here long...falling...asleeee.......................... ...</font>

HAPPY NEW BABY, ELIF! [img]graemlins/balloons.gif[/img] That's wonderful news! Of course, now that you won't be sleeping much you can sit up and compose witty things for IW..LOL!

Gammit, I'd have to agree, not being able to follow the rules, isn't a good thing for that student and the penalty MAY actually force him to remember to follow them.

Hey all, work is busy today, so I'll be scarce! Hope you're having a fantastic day so far! :D

Gammit,
You should explain to the student the flaw in his logic. Losing points on the tests may result in getting a 45/50 (or 90%) but if he was excelling at all his other work, then he could still pull off an A (unless 90% is no longer an A).
It's kinda like my brother who said he failed out of college because his gym teacher gave him a D. He didn't seem to think the fact that he failed his English and Math classes because he didn't do the work factored into it. In his mind, it was because he got a D in gym.
Better he learn to buckle down now in school before he gets out there into college and learns what not following instructions can really result in.
Also, I don't think not putting the header on the document is a behavior issue, it's an issue with not learning to follow directions and not learning to learn from his mistakes. I could see it happening once or twice, but after that, he should be responsible enough to take the extra 3 seconds to make sure it's on his paper so as not to lose the points.
I hope you and the other teacher stick to your guns. The student needs to learn to take responsibility for his own actions and not blame them on you two.

'Lo All. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] Kinda busy today. End of month billing. HarleyQuinn, I spent about $5300 on Westlaw in one day. [img]graemlins/wow.gif[/img] Can you believe that?

<font color=deeppink>Hello all. Have been quite busy a couple of days now with cleaning and laundry. Phaaw! You should consider yourselves lucky I wasn´t in here while doing all this. I would probably have flamed you all out of frustration and boredom. ;) LOL.

*snicker* Timber, it would be so great if Lady Z added Arnold to her sig as kung-fu girl. You have way too much time on your hands to think such things up. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Hello Attalus. [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] I hope everything is fine with you and the family. I´m sure you are enjoying your warm weather with some nice gardening. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Hell, for 1/2 of that I woulda done the research for you here [img]tongue.gif[/img] (just kidding in case anyone from West is reading this!!!)

I'm Guessing Cerek hosts his sig.</font>[/QUOTE]Got it in one, Sigmar. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

<font color=deeppink>Willow</font>, we are all peachy here. <font color=pink>Galadria</font> has big plans for herbs, a patio, and a swingset fgor Will, so we shall be busy, outside. Yesterday, cleaned all of the winter debris out of his sanbox and trucked in some more sand.

<font color=deeppink>Sounds good. pring has hit us up here as well. Beautiful weather and I´m finally able to spend all days outside. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Bardan, if you check the cafe. What is a "smnoooch"? ;)

Cloudy, I hope work isn´t all that bad. I also hope you finally got rid of all your colds. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

Thanks y'all [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img] will have to see about Stealthy's ;)
Have a good day, I may just be getting a promo at work that will hlep out substancially since my wife can no longer work.

Evening everyone. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I would order a beer, but i'm getting ahead of myself. *ticks off the 365 day countdown till 'B-day.' ;)

I have such simple plans for the future. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Elif, I must have missed your post. Congrats on the new family member, and the promotion.
<font color=deeppink>Willow</font>, Spring is my favorite time of the year, as well. You should see the wisteria bush in the side yard. It is so laden with blossom that the branches are bending down. ;)

Good night, IWF. Until tomorrow. [img]graemlins/toilet.gif[/img]