Might not be relevant for Wolfie Birthday but do you think we should put the date as DD/MM/YYYY (chrismas would become 25/12/2003)
or as MM/DD/YYYY (chrismas would be 12/25/2003) ????

on a side note
its 03-03-03 now [img]smile.gif[/img]

here we have loads of people marrying today [img]tongue.gif[/img]
about 100 couples instead of about 5 on a normal monday

Bah!!
Your devil has ran off with your mind!

Everyone knows tha x.mus is 12/24/2003 ;)

Day/Month/Year

why did the second one ( MM/DD/YYYY ) emmm..created?

Americans (and probably some others) use it.

Technicaly its a poor notation, as its ambiguous with other formats. Is 3/4/03 3rd april or 4th march? No way to tell if it isnt obvious from context.

Well, it should be standardized. You have to keep in mind that the dates are different when reading mail or articles from across the pond.

Personally, I think MM/DD/YY is more logical, being that you say "April 3rd, 2003" more than "the third of April, 2003." Plus, in most business contexts, the MM/YY is the most important part, anyway, so it draws the eye to the most important info first.

BTW - I didn't vote. :D

But Timber - in the UK, we *do* say 'the third of April'. It's only you lot across the pond that have to be difficult and say 'April third' you nutters [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Here's something new for you all ( maybe ). The chinese use different methods. ie, YYYY/MM/DD.

so today is er ling ling san nian san yue shi re or 2003/3/4 .

Yeah - what Epona said, I always say "3rd of April" as opposed to "April 3rd". [img]tongue.gif[/img] Also, it makes more sense as DD/MM/YY because then it is in growing order of magnitude, i.e. a day is the smallest unit of time and then a month then a year. With the MM/DD/YY system, it's in a wierd order [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color="#ffccff">Makes mroe sense tome with mm/dd/yy mainly because when speaking I say January 6th 1962 (my birthday :D ) not 6th January 1962. I can see why from a logical progression sense it would work as dd/mm/yy smallest period to largest..... I still like mm/dd/yy </font>

it's simply impossible to say something like January 6th in dutch
you just say 6 Januari and thats that
Januari de 6e would be just plain weird

and i thought that in german the prenounciation is DAy/Month aswell 6. Januar or something (not compleetly sure, since i never got a got any higher then a 5 for german on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being highest)

[ 03-04-2003, 01:07 AM: Message edited by: Rikard_OHF ]

Being brought up with dd/mm/yyyy, I think it's odd to use mm/dd/yyyy.

It's just confusing [img]tongue.gif[/img]

So we are all agreed - it's just those dumb Americans ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D and they are outvoted on this matter anyway :D

Yep!
make them pesky yanks go metric, use the correct dd/mm/yy tag, love taxes, give up on guns, hug the UN and fall into line with the rest of the world right now! [img]graemlins/blueblink.gif[/img]

Then we will go to war on new Zealand and make them talk proper

[img]graemlins/tank.gif[/img]

soon the world will march to my tune. MMWWAHHhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

Hey, it's not mandatory to love taxes and hug the UN just because you are using the right and only format for the date (thus being dd/mm/yy). [img]tongue.gif[/img]
If that were the case I'd support every other format right away (even the chinese one)!

Aargh we are losing! mm/dd/yyyy is my preferred writing. Writing 04/03/2003 seems wrong to me since I am used to 03/04/2003. And saying March 4th saves half a second in comparison with the 4th of March. [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

did you all notice something? the date in Ironworks forum is using MM/DD/YYYY.

So I guess that those supported MM/DD/YYYY won! :D

This could be a valid conclusion...
Another would be that IW is using the wrong format. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I suppose it all boils down to how you say "the 4th of July". :D

I don't say the '4th of July' for anything but the holiday -Independence Day.... when disussing the date itself, more often than not, I'd say July 4th or 5th or my birthday is October 1st... must be one of those weird Yank mutations I guess! ;) :D

I use a combination. I use dd/mmm/yyyy, where I spell out the month. Today is 4 Mar 03, for example.

Lot less possibility for confusion there.

The other variation I've seen is to use Roman Numerals for the month. So today would be 4/IV/03. Haven't seen that much in a number of years, though.

Sorry, Willow; I'm not helping the North American cause much :(

well consideri8ng the result
we should force ziroc to change the IW date format

*shrugs*
People will just prefer the order they're familiar with... I'm curious if there are actually people around here who are most familiar with one but think the other one is more logical. I think that would be more interesting to find out than what this particular poll, as at this moment, the result will merely indicate if there are more Americans than non-Americans around here (or more who bother to vote) or vice versa. ;)

[ 03-04-2003, 10:39 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

Bungleau, that's the way I do it as well. No possibility of mixing DD and MM.

I like days beyond the 12th
no change of mixing that up either
or are there people who think 13-12-2003 means the 12th day of the 13th month ¬_¬

DD/MM/YYYY

I like this format because it goes from smallest measurement of time to largest.

As well the context "The 1st day of the third month in the year 1600 of our lord" or something. Hasn't anyone watched Swiss Family Robinson they always started the show of like that.

I still think a good argument for MM/DD/YYYY is that the MM/YYYY are certainly the most referenced parts on any communication. The DD part only becomes important in a few, push-the-deadline, contexts. Business information usually goes on months and years. Billing compiled and bills paid each month, 3 months is a quarter, what month did we ask for that, etc. So, there's the best argument I have for doing it my way - efficiency of the MM/DD/YYYY as a reference tool. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[edit] If MM/DD/YYYY is not used, I thing the best next option is YYYY/MM/DD. Descending order of size, the YYYY is certainly the absolutely most important piece of information, and the DD at the end is mostly unused. ;)

[ 03-04-2003, 12:45 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

A bit late, but yes, in German you say "sechster Januar" - 6th January literally translated.

DD/MM/YYYY rocks man! Mostly 'cos I'm used to it though! :D

Gotta disagree with you somewhat, TL. MM/DD/YYYY is commonly used for business... in North America. Elsewhere in the world, it is more common to use DD/MM/YYYY.

From a programming perspective, I prefer YYYY/MM/DD. Why? Because if you string 'em all together and remove the punctuation, it sorts nicely. 20030304 will always sort properly with the dates around it in a nice left-justified manner. If you use 03042003 or 04032003, you have to parse the date in order to figure out which one is bigger.

I reckon DD/MM/YYYY, mainly because I'm used to it.

For business and such, surely it must be easier to ignore the front part than the middle? I mean, If you need to know the month and year, you look at the last part of DD/MM/YYYY, but if it's MM/DD/YYYY then you have to look at the first and last, if the middle isn't important.

Anyway, for things like a forum, the Date is most important, no?