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Strange nobody has brought this one up before... This interview was broadcast a few days ago across the world; here a synopsis, some reactions and Michael Jackson's own response.
<h3>Jackson: "I Share Bedroom with Kids"</h3> More than 14 million viewers watched Monday's UK TV documentary in which Michael Jackson admitted he shared his bedroom with young children. The ITV1 programme attracted 14.1 million viewers according to unofficial overnight figures, one of the highest ever figures for a TV documentary and taking 53.9% of viewers. Towards the end of the 110-minute programme - as Jackson was seen discussing his relationships with children - over 60% of UK TV viewers were watching. It was made by Martin Bashir, whose BBC interview with Diana, Princess of Wales in 1995 attracted an audience of 22.8 million. During the programme it emerged that children still slept overnight at Jackson's house, despite allegations of abuse - which the singer has always denied - made in 1993. Jackson said he sometimes slept on the floor while giving the children his bed, which he said was a "beautiful thing", "charming" and "sweet". "Why can't you share your bed? That's the most loving thing to do, to share your bed with someone," he said. Difficult questions Close friend Uri Geller, who helped set up the programme, defended Jackson's reputation following the documentary's broadcast. The celebrity psychic told BBC News 24: "Michael could have not had those children there when Martin Bashir brought the cameras but Michael is honest and very, very innocent. "He says he sees God in the faces of children. He is inspired by them. His music, he claims, comes from them. "Michael has done absolutely nothing wrong to children in the past or present." Geller - a father-of-two - added he found nothing sinister in Jackson's actions. Innocent In the programme, made by Granada TV, Jackson introduced Bashir to a 12-year-old named Gavin, who he befriended as the youngster fought cancer. The boy said he battled his illness with the help of Jackson and maintained his parents were happy with their friendship. Jackson insisted his feelings for children was entirely innocent and had nothing to do with sex. "My greatest inspiration comes from kids... it's all inspired from that level of innocence. I just love being around that all the time," he said. Bashir had "unprecedented" access to Jackson for the documentary, Living With Michael Jackson. He followed the singer for eight months, interviewing him several times and spending time at his Californian ranch, Neverland, which includes a zoo and a full-scale fairground. Jackson was also filmed spending $6m (£3.6m) on a shopping excursion during a stay in Las Vegas. 'Fat nose' The singer grew emotional as he described his hard-working childhood - singing with his brothers in the Jackson Five group - and his "hated" violent father, who taunted him about his "fat nose". But when Bashir asked him about reports of multiple plastic surgery, he denied having more than two operations on his face, saying only: "Oh God, oh please... it's stupid, none of it's true." Jackson said he was giving his own children - Prince and Paris, aged five and four, and baby Prince Michael II - as "normal" a childhood as possible, even though they never saw their mothers. He blamed the ever-present paparazzi for the fact that his children were always masked in public. Jackson said his third child had been born to a woman he had never met, saying he had not cared who she was so long as she was healthy. Prince and Paris' mother is Debbie Rowe, Jackson's former dermatology nurse who he married in 1997. Jackson said she had handed over the two children to him as "gift" and that she was not involved in bringing them up. Bashir was present during the infamous "baby dangling" incident in Germany recently when Jackson held his baby son over a balcony to show waiting fans beneath. Adoption plans Jackson denied that had been wrong, saying any criticism was "ignorant" - a word he also used to describe media criticism of any other aspects of his life. "We were waiting for thousands of fans down below, and they were chanting they wanted to see my child, so I was kind enough to let them see. I was doing something out of innocence. "I love my children, I was holding my son right and strong... I wasn't going to let him fall," he said. He said he wanted more children and was considering adopting two from each continent. Source: BBC [ 02-06-2003, 04:58 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ] |
Some reactions...
<h3>Charities condemn Jackson</h3> Charities have condemned pop star Michael Jackson for telling a TV documentary that he let children stay in his bed. The singer revealed his close friendships with children during the ITV1 special Living with Michael which aired in the UK on Tuesday. He told interviewer Martin Bashir that he saw nothing wrong with children sleeping over at his Neverland mansion He also said a 12-year-old boy named Gavin regularly stayed in his bed while he slept on the floor, but admitted other children had slept in his bed with him. Children's charity Barnado's said that if anyone in the UK had revealed similar circumstances then an investigation would be launched by the authorities. Principal policy officer Pam Hibbert said: "At Barnardo's we feel it is totally inappropriate for an adult man to share a bed or bedroom with a child that is not his own. "One would expect most adults to recognise and acknowledge this - and understand the reasons why. "One has to ask whether substantial wealth protects adults but not necessarily children." Wrong message Jackson, who likens himself to Peter Pan, was accused of child abuse in 1994 by a 13-year-old boy. Although Jackson strenuously denies the allegations he paid the boy's parents $18m (£11m) to drop a civil case. During the documentary Jackson said former child star Macaulay Culkin, his brother Kieran and their sisters had stayed in his bed with him. Jackson said there was nothing improper about the arrangement. But children's charity the NSPCC said Jackson was sending out the wrong message. A spokesman said: "Michael Jackson says he has innocent intentions towards children. "But his claims that he has shared his bed with many children who are not his own and it is 'what the whole world should do' sends out totally the wrong message to those whose intentions are anything but innocent. Masked "This behaviour could be used as justification by people who want to harm or sexually abuse children as an excuse for their own behaviour." There was also concern about the way Jackson is raising his own three children, Prince Michael, Paris and Prince Michael II. None of them are allowed to leave the house without their faces being masked and do not attend a "normal" school. Kidscape director Michele Elliott said: "Michael Jackson is a very talented musician but by his own admission, also very damaged by his childhood experiences. "He has created a strange, unreal world and is populating it with his own children, whom he treats like toys. "He doesn't seem to consider how his actions will impact on children." Source: BBC (some parts of the main article were re-used for this one, apparently) <h3>Jackson defended over TV interview</h3> Psychic Uri Geller has come to the defence of his friend Michael Jackson after a documentary where the pop star admitted he shared his bedroom with young children. Jackson made the admission in a documentary made by journalist Martin Bashir on the UK's ITV1 channel on Monday. During the programme it emerged that children still slept overnight at Jackson's house, despite the allegations of abuse - that the singer always denied - made in 1993. Jackson said he sometimes slept on the floor while giving the children his bed, which he said was a "beautiful thing", "charming" and "sweet". "Why can't you share your bed? That's the most loving thing to do, to share your bed with someone," he said. Difficult questions Geller told BBC Radio 4's Today programme on Tuesday that he thought it was a good idea for Jackson to agree to the programme. "I thought it was about time for Michael to open his house to a presenter I trusted," he said. "I think Michael was brutally honest, he was direct, he never flinched from the most difficult questions." But Geller also said the tone of the show had changed halfway through and Jackson's words had been twisted. "In the first part of the show he came over as a totally positive person, towards the end of the programme I think he was shown in a more negative light," he said. "This is just an indication of how manipulative a documentary like this can be." Geller added he had no doubt's about Jackson's character. "I fully trust Michael, he is a pure innocent human being, he brings so much joy into the lives of people," he said. Innocent In the programme Jackson introduced Bashir to a 12-year-old named Gavin, who he befriended as the youngster fought cancer. The boy said he battled his illness with the help of Jackson and that his parents were happy with their friendship, and saw nothing wrong with him sharing a room with the star. Jackson insisted his love for children was entirely innocent and had nothing to do with sex. "My greatest inspiration comes from kids... it's all inspired from that level of innocence. I just love being around that all the time," he said. Bashir had "unprecedented" access to the singer for the 90-minute documentary, Living With Michael Jackson. He followed Jackson for eight months, interviewing him several times and spending time at his Californian ranch, Neverland, which includes a zoo and a full-scale fairground. Bashir was present during the infamous "baby dangling" incident in Germany recently when Jackson held his baby son over a balcony to show waiting fans beneath. Adoption plans Jackson denied that had been wrong, saying any criticism was "ignorant" - a word he also used to describe media criticism of any other aspects of his life. "We were waiting for thousands of fans down below, and they were chanting they wanted to see my child, so I was kind enough to let them see. I was doing something out of innocence," he said. "I love my children, I was holding my son right and strong... I wasn't going to let him fall," he said. He said he wanted more children and was considering adopting two from each continent. The singer said he wanted to "live forever" and "totally" identified with the immortal children's fiction figure Peter Pan. Questioned about the apparent change in his skin tone over the years, Jackson said he had the condition vitiligo, which made him lose skin colour and meant he was allergic to the sun. Elsewhere in the programme, the singer is shown trying to teach Bashir his trademark "moonwalk" dance. Source: BBC |
And Michael Jackson's response to the documentary and the criticism:
<h3>Jacko says he was betrayed by Bashir</h3> Michael Jackson has criticised Martin Bashir and the makers of a documentary on him. He says he feels more betrayed than perhaps ever before. He has been widely criticised following the ITV1 programme, Living With Michael Jackson, in which he revealed that he still shares his bedroom with children. A spokesman said Jackson first saw the programme, in which he was interviewed by investigative journalist Martin Bashir, last night. He immediately released a statement through his British representative Stephen Lock, criticising its portrayal of him. "I trusted Martin Bashir to come into my life and that of my family because I wanted the truth to be told. "Martin Bashir persuaded me to trust him, that his would be an honest and fair portrayal of my life and told me that he was 'the man that turned Diana's life around'. The pop star went on: "Today I feel more betrayed than perhaps ever before; that someone who had got to know my children, my staff and me, whom I let into my heart and told the truth, could then sacrifice the trust I placed in him and produce this terrible and unfair programme. "Everyone who knows me will know the truth which is that my children come first in my life and that I would never harm any child." Jackson said he had received many messages of support from fans in Britain since the documentary was aired on Monday night. Source: Ananova ================================================== ============================ So what do you think? |
Personally I think people are getting way to exaggerated about Michael Jackson each time he does something. Can he do nothing right? Every single thing he does, has something wrong about it. We keep on forgetting the fact that he is in his way brilliant, and that there's absolutely no one in this entire world who can even come close to his musicality.
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Absolutely true, but you cannot say he isn't a brilliant musician Grojlach. That's (in my eyes) simply denying the truth. He still is one of the most best-selling artists around. But he has suffered greatly from paparazzi invading his personal life, and last, but not least, his childhood, which was probably wrecked by his tirannical father.
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But it wasn't my intention to state that he was simply the most brilliant musician ever. I mean; in his genre he is, but for Jazz it may be Herbie Hancock. And for blues someone else. But in pop music Michael Jackson is simply the best, IMHO.
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He may be a great musical talent, but I reckon he's lost the plot completely in terms of his mental stability. :rolleyes:
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You should see the documentary before defending him. He grabbed one of his children from the vagina of the mother and ran off with it (placenta and all). Watch how he feeds the baby. If anyone of us behaved as he does we would be locked up.
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Much as Rich criminals can afford Johnny Cohran, Rich lunatics can staff Dr.s to keep themselves outside of asylums. But he is still a sick, sick man that needs to be quarantined away from children until he is cured.
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He said that he felt like a 4 year old inside and i'll admit, the way he's been acting recently shows that he's a messed up little kid again and his inner child is comming out, I belive that he may even be suffering from multiple personality schiztofrenia...
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I saw it. All of it. And it didn't look good.
He fed the baby in such a way that would make you believe that he (jackson) was having a fit. His leg, whether deliberately or through nerves (at this point he had just dangled the baby out of the window IIRC) was shaking violently. The veil was around the kids face, and as jackson tried to feed the boy with the bottle he also jammed the veil into his mouth. To be fair, Martin Bashir did add comments that were more than a little suggestive about Jackson's personal life :rolleyes: but then, this is the price for fame, no? According to 'Wacko Jacko', Bashir promised that the children would be cut out of the program, but taht the crew had to keep filming to give 'continuety' (s/p) I was disgusted about the adoption plans for two kids from each continent. There is no way that these children would get a normal upbringing if this came about. |
He thinks he's Peter Pan. LMAO
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I don't see anything wrong with children sleeping in their parents' bed. I mean when I was a little kid, when I had a nightmare and I woke up I always went and slept in my parents' bed cos I was scared. Maybe Jackson's just doing the same, letting children he's befriended sleep near him in that parenting way?
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I was too nauseated to watch it. I saw snippets that nauseated me more.
This bloke is not wired up right and imho is sinister. If ever I was accused or even remotely associated with child abuse of any form, I'd fight tooth and nail to clear my name. This jerk just threw money at the problem and walked away. Guilty as sin in my book, but then that's me. This docu' (the little that I've seen) confirmed for me the things I already thought. This guy manipulates children (and possibly some parents), now he effectively breeds and conditions them for non normality, possibly even non morality. Forcing young children and babies to wear veils!!! I ask you.... Don't defend this arsehole....he's lost it. Worry about the people he is currently damaging. |
Even if you don't agree with who he is and what he does, Charlie, I think it's not fair you call him an arshole.. for any reason. In his way he's brilliant, can't you see that? I mean; do you call Stephen Hawking a 'stupid retard' simply because he cannot function as well as you can, or anybody else?
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I haven't seen the program yet, think it comes on here in the U.S. tonight. But I'm pretty sure it will only confirm what I already think of Michael Jackson - mentally unbalanced pedophile, period, hands down. I just wonder how long this freak show will go on until somebody in authority does the right thing and takes those kids away from him.
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I can't bear to watch it tonight. I've a feeling if I do it will be like a train wreck: interesting to watch, but what does one say in response?
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If I thought Stephen Hawking a child abuser....I'd call him an arsehole. M.J in my mind doesn't only have a talent for music.....ahem.. P.S. I've seen children dressed in veils and babies hung over balconies....the unstable, dangerous practises of an arsehole imo. P.P.S. Spot on LZ, and put in a nutshell. [ 02-06-2003, 05:46 PM: Message edited by: Charlie ] |
This guy is a has been schyco. His repeated actions are disgusting and inapropriate! LOOK AT HIS FACE!!! come on people! The guys insane. [img]graemlins/hidesbehindsofa.gif[/img]
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I feel pity for Michael Jackson. He's had a tough childhood and he needs to get some help. But he just isn't fit to be a parent. If he wasn't rich and famous his kids would already have been taken off him.
The parents of the children sleeping in Jackson's bed are even worse. Would you let your kids sleep in the bed of a man accused of abusing a child? He was never found to be innocent. He just used his money to make it go away. It all comes down to money. Without his money he would have been sent to a mental hospital years ago and could have gotten some help. Poor people are crazy, Jack. I'm eccentric. - Dennis Hopper, Speed |
IMHO it's a biased and onesided piece of sensationalism about a bizzare and tortured person. One fuels the other fuels the other. Result? Both their careers continue to earn them a living. (For US$1B!LL!ON+ would you be prepared to act strange?)
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Can someone tell why people always remember just the bad things about someone. MJ has given a lot of money to charities as well. He's done loads of things good, but somehow everyone keeps falling over the fact that he held the baby out of the window. That he 'sleeps with children'. I'm not defending his wrong actions, but I am addressing the fact that Michael Jackson is not pure evil, and has also shown us his other sides.
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Do you guys really think the nose job was for hitting those high notes or because of his father was being little to him when he was young? Also sleeping in a sleeping bag when your past being a teenager on your own bedroom floor..?? From what I read about this interview it's one I will miss.
He loves press coverage and always has it seems to me. How much of the antics are real and how much is fake? You got me. One thing is for sure, don't leave any children with him alone. I really enjoy listening to an oldy or two of his but the talent he once had, along with a few other things, is gone and never to return. After Thriller in early 1984 or so is when things started to get a little whacky imho. Mybe the scaple slipped when he was getting a nose job and gave him a labodamy instead.?? |
Sorry, Link, I'm with Charlie on this one. However brilliant a musician he might have been at one time (and I, for one, do not agree with this) being a pedophile is not something one simply overlooks. He has been able to buy off all accusers, but that doesn't mean he is innocent.
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I'm not saying he isn't pedophile. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. He is kinda whacky, but who knows how that happened? His father? Paparazzi? We all know what happened to Lady Di when paparazzi were after her, so it could as well be them. And I wonder if I would be able to keep my sanity if my life would be followed as closely as it was with him.
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Tortured childhoods? There are millions and billions of people that have had tortured childhoods. Many many far worse than MJ. I like to think that those that suffered know what it is to suffer, subsequently they do not make others suffer. Money and power are the corrupters sometimes. I feel sorry for MJ, I honestly do. I feel sorrier for for the undefended, the ones that may suffer and beget suffering in the years to come.
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By the way, I believe the FBI has already requested the English channel who did the interview to give them copies of the original tapes, which will be used for the investigation into Michael Jackson's private life, to find out if he could be prosecuted for these remarks. [ 02-06-2003, 06:57 PM: Message edited by: Grojlach ] |
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It's a shame people call him MJ. I know another one, and he's defenitely NOT from that level.
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