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Zarr 01-31-2003 05:51 PM

This thread was originally going to be "What is your soccer dream team?" but I decided since this is an American forum and alot of the users are American and like US sports that it should be open to all sports as most people wouldn't be interested in a soccer dream team. So please tell me what your favorite sport is eg Basketball, baseball etc and what your dream team would be for that sport. I'll start with my soccer dream team comments are welcome...

Gk: Buffon
rb: Contra
lb: Roberto Carlos
cb: Nesta
cb: Chivu
rm: Beckam
cm: Xavi
cm: Zidane
lm: Pires
cf: Van Nistelroy
cf: Raul

LowTech 01-31-2003 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zarr:
rm: Beckam

The most overrated player in the world, in my opinion.

Quote:

Originally posted by Zarr:
cf: Raul

And one of the most underrated ones.
A balanced team.

Here we go

Gk: Casillas
rb: Cafú
lb: Roberto Carlos
cb: Helguera
cb: Ayala
rm: Joaquín (ok, i'm a Betis fan, you caught me, but he's very good)
cm: Guardiola
cm: Zidane
lm: Denilson
cf: Vieri
cf: Raul

Ok, I'm not very objective but it's MY dream team (and I tried not to choose too many players from Real Madrid, only 5 out of 11) ;)

Zarr 01-31-2003 06:35 PM

Your team seems like a balanced one also [img]smile.gif[/img]

About Beckam I'm a Man United fan so do the maths...although I thought about Figo for this position admitedly.

Yes Raul is a fantastic player should have one European footballer of the year last time in my opinion.

There's no shame in putting Joaquin in your team I'm a regular watcher of Spanish football and he's a fantastic player(had a good world cup also). I wouldn't have picked Denilson(another Betis player [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) though he can be brilliant but is too inconsistent. Guardiola was a great player but I wouldn't pick him for his abilites in the present day either but overall your team seems pretty good (I notice alot of the players play in the spanish league).

LowTech 01-31-2003 07:34 PM

That's why I say I'm not very objective.
Let's try without Spanish league players:

Gk: Kahn
rb: Cafú
lb: Raul Bravo (new Leeds Utd. player on loan from Real Madrid) ;)
cb: Cannavaro
cb: Nesta
rm: Van Der Vaart
cm: Ballack
cm: Verón
lm: Nedved
cf: Vieri
cf: Henry

About Guardiola, he was my favourite player during the 90s and kind of a symbol of Johan Cruyff's football (the best of the best).

Mr_Krift 01-31-2003 09:37 PM

i hate soccer football ( american ) is soo much better ....

johnny 01-31-2003 09:50 PM

In football there is no such thing as a "dreamteam". On any given day, a team of pros, can lose to a team of amateurs. The British FA cup had lots of those surprises in the past. Anything is possible in football. In Basketball there WAS a dreamteam, but that's history. And i'm not going to name 11 topplayers, cause once you put them all in the same team, you don't have a team anymore, just a bunch of ego's. One of the strongest teams i've ever seen was Ajax in (i think) 1994. They went through the competition undefeated, won the Championsleague, and the worldcup in Tokio. That team came close to perfection, too bad it had to be Ajax though.

Mr_Krift 01-31-2003 10:02 PM

I agree with you with basketball, But i Still think there is a football one PROBOWL....... whatever happened to tennis tho .....

Kakero 01-31-2003 10:55 PM

here's mine..

GK : Bathez
DR : Cafu
DC : Nesta
DC : Helguera
DL : Roberto Carlos
MR : Figo
MC : Zidane
MC : Viera
ML : Pires
FW : Del Piero
FW : Henry

Zarr 02-01-2003 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
here's mine..

GK : Bathez
DR : Cafu
DC : Nesta
DC : Helguera
DL : Roberto Carlos
MR : Figo
MC : Zidane
MC : Viera
ML : Pires
FW : Del Piero
FW : Henry

Seems like a good team [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Seems like everyone reckons Roberto Carlos is the best left back in the world not a suprise really. I must say I think Helguera is better in a defensive midfield position rather than at center back although he's played well there this season. Also it's good to see someone else pick Pires who I think is a fantastic player even though it pains me to say it what with him being an Arsenal player.

Zarr 02-01-2003 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LowTech:
That's why I say I'm not very objective.
Let's try without Spanish league players:

Gk: Kahn
rb: Cafú
lb: Raul Bravo (new Leeds Utd. player on loan from Real Madrid) ;)
cb: Cannavaro
cb: Nesta
rm: Van Der Vaart
cm: Ballack
cm: Verón
lm: Nedved
cf: Vieri
cf: Henry

About Guardiola, he was my favourite player during the 90s and kind of a symbol of Johan Cruyff's football (the best of the best).

Another strong team. Imagine the strength of Vieri and his finishing skills and the pace of Henry up front :eek: .That would be some partnership!

About Raul Bravo doesn't he play for the Spanish National team even though he isn't a first choice at Real Madrid? A bit wierd I would have thought they'd give the position to someone who starts regularly perhaps Romero of Deportivo?

The one nitpick I'd have with this team is that Van Der Vaart is in right midfield. A fantastic young player yes but isn't he left footed?

LowTech 02-01-2003 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zarr:
Another strong team. Imagine the strength of Vieri and his finishing skills and the pace of Henry up front :eek: .That would be some partnership!

About Raul Bravo doesn't he play for the Spanish National team even though he isn't a first choice at Real Madrid? A bit wierd I would have thought they'd give the position to someone who starts regularly perhaps Romero of Deportivo?

The one nitpick I'd have with this team is that Van Der Vaart is in right midfield. A fantastic young player yes but isn't he left footed?

About Bravo, he's a good left back (and he could be great). He isn't a first choice in Real Madrid for an obvious reason: Roberto Carlos.

And about Van Der Vaart, the thing is I wanted to put that 4 players in the midfield, so I adapted his position.

Zarr 02-01-2003 08:53 AM

[quote]Originally posted by LowTech:
Quote:

[qb]

And about Van Der Vaart, the thing is I wanted to put that 4 players in the midfield, so I adapted his position.
Hmmm makes sense. Come to think about it it's actually quite diffucult to think of a player for rm if you take away the obvious candidates like Figo, Beckham etc. I wrecked my brain trying to think of good rm players and couldn't think of many in the end if I was choosing a dream team of players from outside Spain I would probably choose Bernd Scheider of Bayer Leverkusan(sp). He played very well for them against Man United in the semi - final of the Champions League last season...

johnny 02-01-2003 08:56 AM

Vd Vaart is indeed a very talented young player, he shoots just as easy with his left as with his right foot. But he is also very often injured. He has the potential to become a great one, i'm a little worried about his physical condition though.

Zarr 02-01-2003 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
Vd Vaart is indeed a very talented young player, he shoots just as easy with his left as with his right foot. But he is also very often injured. He has the potential to become a great one, i'm a little worried about his physical condition though.
Yes from what I've seen of him he looks an excellent player. I heard rumours on a website linking him with Barcelona but now Van Gaal's gone maybe he won't go there. I think I read somewere that he wants to play in Spain soon... You have to wonder how long Ajax will be able to hold on to him although that's the case with most good players in the Netherlands these days...

johnny 02-01-2003 09:55 AM

His contract ties him to Ajax until 2006, so if there's anyone interrested, they better bring a cargoship full of money. Barcelona and Real Madrid are no factor i'm afraid, they're as good as broke. And some Italian teams are also having some serious financial problems. I guess all these years of buying, buying, and buying some more, are finally taking their toll.

VulcanRider 02-01-2003 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zarr:
...So please tell me what your favorite sport is eg Basketball, baseball etc and what your dream team would be for that sport.
I'll take the Swedish Bikini Team ( www.jmallard.com/sbt.htm ), and I don't care what sport we're talking about...

Deathbringer 02-01-2003 12:20 PM

<font color="00cc99">Personally I wouldn't have a 4-4-2 formation, I'd have a diamond midfield

I think the formation is 4,1,2,1,2
and my team would consist of:

Gk: Me
rb: Me
lb: Me
rcb: Me
lcb: Me
rm: Me
cdm: Me
cam: Me
lm: Me
rf: Me
lf: Me

well, you did say 'DREAM' team [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

[ 02-01-2003, 12:22 PM: Message edited by: Deathbringer ]

Iron_Ranger 02-01-2003 08:02 PM

Well you said any sport...

Offensive Lines-
Elias,Arnott,Sykora
Gurien,Modano,Hull
LeClair,Sundin,Forsberg
Lethinen,Fedorov,Tkchauk

Defensive Lines-
Stevens,Hatcher
Pronger,Lidstrom
Neidimyer,MacInnis

Goalie-Broduer

Backup Goalie- Turco

Lavindathar 02-01-2003 08:54 PM

<font color="cyan">Ok:

I believe in wingbacks!!! Can't you tell?

GK - Barthez (He's a character, as well as a fab goalie.)
DL - Carlos (I believe he's overrated. He cant defend THAT well. Great attacker)
DR - Cafu (another attacker)
CB - Nesta (quality player)
CB - Ferdinand (best defender at world cup)
ML - Pires (just sheer class)
MR - Beckham (overated? He's pure class. Through and through.)
CM - Zidane (Perfection)
CM - Roy Keane (best tackler in the game. Awesome)
FW - Henry (deadly)
FW - Van Nistelroy (imagine feeding off Henry, Beckham and Zidane)

Ok, I like my team. Not that biased, although a lot of Utd players. Not one player from my team - Liverpool (owen wasn't even considered).

Only one's I considered were Buffon in net, Ronaldo up front and Viera instead of Keane.

And I dnt know how anyone can say Beckham is overated? Do you understand football? Not only is he the best passer,crosser and free kick taker in the world, he works more than any other player on a pitch.

Take the game England vs Greece before WC2002. He won the game on his own. His work rate was awesome!</font>

Donut 02-02-2003 05:46 AM

Completely objective [img]smile.gif[/img]

Seaman
Lauren
Campbell
Keown
Cole
Ljungberg
Gilberto
Vieira
Pires
Bergkamp
Henry

Lanesra 02-02-2003 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
Completely objective [img]smile.gif[/img]

Seaman
Lauren
Campbell
Keown
Cole
Ljungberg
Gilberto
Vieira
Pires
Bergkamp
Henry

Saved me typing all that. [img]smile.gif[/img]

wellard 02-02-2003 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanesra:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
Completely objective [img]smile.gif[/img]

Seaman
Lauren
Campbell
Keown
Cole
Ljungberg
Gilberto
Vieira
Pires
Bergkamp
Henry

Saved me typing all that. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]looks like all arse and no class :D imho
Go Oldham athletic [img]graemlins/heee.gif[/img]

LowTech 02-02-2003 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lavindathar:
<font color="cyan">GK - Barthez (He's a character, as well as a fab goalie.)
DL - Carlos (I believe he's overrated. He cant defend THAT well. Great attacker)
DR - Cafu (another attacker)
CB - Nesta (quality player)
CB - Ferdinand (best defender at world cup)
ML - Pires (just sheer class)
MR - Beckham (overated? He's pure class. Through and through.)
CM - Zidane (Perfection)
CM - Roy Keane (best tackler in the game. Awesome)
FW - Henry (deadly)
FW - Van Nistelroy (imagine feeding off Henry, Beckham and Zidane)</font>

Wow, 7 English league players, you almost beat my record :D

Quote:

Originally posted by Lavindathar:
<font color="cyan">And I dnt know how anyone can say Beckham is overated? Do you understand football? Not only is he the best passer,crosser and free kick taker in the world, he works more than any other player on a pitch.)</font>
Do YOU understand football?, Joaquin is as good passer and crosser as Beckham and Marcos Assunçao is a quite better free kick taker. Both of them play for Betis and I don't think they are considered among the best of the world.
Seriously man, you only watch English football, don't you? ;)

Davros 02-02-2003 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
Completely objective [img]smile.gif[/img]

Seaman
Lauren
Campbell
Keown
Cole
Ljungberg
Gilberto
Vieira
Pires
Bergkamp
Henry

I thought about doing that yesterday - but I thought why spoil it for you by hogging the opportunity.

Great team btw :D


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