<font color="cyan">Was wondering if anyone could point me to a good English based (or English speaking at least)Warhammer forum.

I want to start it up again.

Or if anyone wants to email me @ Lavindathar@realityproject.com for a chat, it'd be appreciated!</font>

What do you collect?

I used to collect Lizardmen but then I started to play Warhammer 40k. I have a pretty big army of Chaos Space Marines

;)

It became to expensive so I stopped [img]tongue.gif[/img]

One of my metal dreadnoughts cost $79! Bah [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 01-22-2003, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

<font color="cyan">Used to do Lizardmen, but I dunno even where they are now, so was gonna start from scratch.

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Try the games workshop community at www.games-workshop.com . It's the most active and up-to-date forum I know of, although the quality of replies seems to shift between 'very useful' and 'absolute rubbish' quite a lot. It's almost like a game of chance...

<begin rant> havent played warhammer stuff in soooo long, used to paint minatures, and collect all sorts of armies, my mate won golden demon once, superb painter, the detail he got was amazing, still i never lost at warhammer battling [img]smile.gif[/img] so at least i could beat him on that score [img]tongue.gif[/img]

id love to get back into it, only problem i had was theres nowhere to play it, go to games workshop or places like that and its full of kids who cant paint their minatures are bought 100s of quids worth of stuff by their parents but dont know how to use it, so when you end up in battles it takes 10 times as long because they dont know their own armies :( plus it looks pretty horrible when a load of unpainted miniatures are slapped down on the table. Spoiled it for me kids did :( i love it for the tactics and strategy, but it just got so dumbed down, and then things like white wolf went bad too as they started catering for children, look at the early issues of white wolf, the humour was very adult, they even had comic strips in it which were pretty gory at times or of an adult nature, remember thrudd the barbarian anyone? (think that was his name [img]tongue.gif[/img] ) because of this shift towards younger people and the dumbing down of the rules and everything else, all the older and original players gave up on it, and considered it "sad" or for losers which is very upsetting for me cos i still want to play it :(

then the silly goits decided to bring out the same game slightly reworked every year just to make more money, it unfortunately went from being the brainchild of livingstone and jackson where it was a labour of love to basically yet another capitalistic takeover resulting in an expensive product which changed yearly, i dont even know whats happened to it in the last 5 years, im still using the original warhammer boxed set [img]tongue.gif[/img] the one with goblins and high elves in it, also got the original epic boxed set too, and very old codex for warhammer 40k , dont know why they changed the system (apart from the money factor) cos it was damned good as it was. argrhgrghrhg damn the capitalistss and the kids, spoiling the game i loved :(

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anyone in the portsmouth area of england who fancies taking on my dwarf army? [img]smile.gif[/img]
i think i still got lying around a huge pointage dwarf army, pretty much an orc army too, space marine army, old epic scale space marine, squat, eldar and orc armies. Tyranid and space orc armies as well in 40k , heh got loads in fact [img]smile.gif[/img]

Drat - I just sold my lizardman army a couple of months ago, or I'd offer it up. [img]graemlins/awcrap.gif[/img]

I do 40K, and my Ultramarines will give anyone in the Chicago area a stomping if they're up for it. Or, I'll stomp ya with my Eldar.

I also recently got into the epic version of fantasy (forget the name right now) It looked really cool, but then I moved and lost my Warhammer buddy, so now my skeleton army is slowly decaying.

Yeah, the Games-Workshop.com forum is a great place to start. I don't have my favorites on the computer, but there are some other good forums. Go to alltheweb and do a search.

original lizardmen? the slaad? or the newer ones? [img]tongue.gif[/img] heh see i like the old stuff, though i must admit the original lizardmen/slaad models were pretty poor in comparison with the new.

<font color="cyan">Thanx guys, I'll check it all out later tonight!

P.S - You guys get some pictures of your armies up!</font>

[img]smile.gif[/img] Things have changed, Grungi... Warhammer's been changed, sure, but only twice in the past eight years; and not due for another shift anytime soon. most GWstores (my one, anyway) are fighting to give old hands a chance, and the Veteran's Nights are proving to be more popular than the regular Gaming Nights. Unpainted models are usually not allowed for anyone, except on specific training days (or for staff :D )

If you want to play Warhammer... the game hasn't changed all that much. You'll pick up the changes in no time, especially if you're a Dwarf player (it's mostly Magic that was reworked). Go in to your nearest store, ask around, see when things are done.

As for Jackson and Livingstone...? I think they sold GW to Citadel Miniatures in 1982 and went off to pioneer Fighting Fantasy. It's the same guys at the helm of Warhammer as it's always been, ever.

Dunno, Tancred. I certainly think they put out so much so quick - rules are VERY difficult to keep up with. I had to maintain a subscription to White Dwarf or not know the army I was facing. New Codexes all the time, including super-specialty ones like the most recent Battle for Armageddon. Plus, they jacked up the mini prices a few times in a row. A single space marine termie will run you in the $11 range these days, and a character will cost ya $15.

And I don't like their "28-35 mm" scale, which is truly more on the order of 40mm. But, the figs do look awesome. I paint individual bullets on gun belts different colors and usually shade at least 3 colors on such things as goggles.

And, at GW tourneys you can only use GW minis - new rule about 1 yr ago.

Most of all, the factory in TN where they crank out their minis is not exactly the most expensive thing on the planet to run.

GW has a great game, a wonderful development/marketing team, and some of the best looking figs. But they are in fact greedy bastards to the max.

No discount ever in a GW store, BTW, which is why I'll go to the other end of the same mall and buy from a hobby store offering a 10-15% discount. And, one where you can really get a great deal if you up and say "I'm buying an army today, what kinda deal will you give me?"

My army :D

http://www.mecha.net/warhammer/image...eel_Legion.jpg

[ 01-23-2003, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

Didn't that company go out of business?

i used to play space hulk... had a pretty awesome lookin space wolves terminators...

I don't know, TL. I suppose things may be different on your side of the pond.
I've seen the last few days of 4th edition and own the rulebooks for 5th and 6th, but I can't say the main rules have changed that much. Although it is true there have been a lot of minor rules popping into and out of existance (like overrun rules, the general's death no longer causing panic tests throughout the force, slightly different rules for weapons etc.), that are usually pointed out to you just as you are in the middle of a good gloat because you think those rules don't exist and boy is your opponent in for it now.
Whether or not you need a subscription depends on the kind of gamer you are. I only ever play a handful of people since noone seems to think placing a GW in Groningen would be profitable (yes, there are more people living in the Netherlands than those in Amsterdam and Rotterdam, particularly to the north and south of there. But the south can wait...). As a result I know their forces, and if they do start a new one I can borrow rulebooks, see it grow and not be totally surprised once they reach 1000 or 2000 points. On the other hand, if you're a tournament player, it's only fair you 'need to' keep up with developments. You can't expect to just walk in and win a tournament if you don't come prepared. I doubt I'd win the olympics without training...

As for the prices of the miniatures, that was unfortunate. First they migrated into bigger boxes (two or three a blister instead of three or four, for the same price), later on they went up a pound. Part of it will doubtlessly be due to inflation, and compared to the way prices in restaurants shot up when they introduced the euro here, it's nothing.

The miniatures are closer to 3 mm than 4mm. I measured [img]tongue.gif[/img]

No discounts is also not true, especially when starting a new army. At least, that's the way it is in Europe.
I also fail to see how running a factory without suffering great expenses is a bad thing...

That said, it is true Warhammer is more expensive a hobby than stamp collecting (unless you want to go for the really rare and expensive ones). It's also true that you will face people who come along with little knowledge of the rules, or unpainted miniatures, or both. And it's true the hobby keeps changing, which isn't neccesarily a bad thing.
But the thing is, you don't have to fight anyone you don't want to. You don't have to agree to play someone with ghostly white, black, grey or mettalic figures. You don't have to fight someone who has no idea what the M in the profiles means.
But it's useful to say so beforehand, so others can keep in mind what you expect. There are a lot of people who do know the rules, who do bring a painted army, and who do supply the milk and cookies [img]smile.gif[/img]

Oh, and the 'epic' warhammer's called Warmaster ;)

Yeah, Warmaster rocks.

Don't get me wrong, I love the game. Oh, I must inform you my army is only 2/3 painted. [img]graemlins/awcrap.gif[/img] Time time time time - it takes me forever to paint a fig. But, I do pretty good work. I'll take some pictures and post 'em (if they come out okay - my digital camera is crappy).

I don't know much about warhammer, but a lot of my friends play it. They occasionally bring a warhammer magazine to the lunch table. I saw a picture of a "Bring out the dead" cart someone had made like the one in Monty Python and the holy grail. It really looked a lot like the one in the movie!

heh,dont know much about warhammer either,but it's nice to collect them figures,(got an army,some need to be painted though)but I have never played with them,only painted(painting Imrik and his dragon was specially fun) :D [img]tongue.gif[/img] maybe I should play someday,but it's difficult to meet people who play it,because everyone plays with their friends and they dont take newbies in so easily :(

www.dakkadakka.com has some excellent forums.

I play tyranids BTW and have a Posessed Mordheim warband.

I am an avid converter too.

YES!!!! DAKKA is an AWESOME store!!! I have friends in VT who go mega-battle there all the time. :D :D :D :D :D God, wish I still could go there upon occassion. [img]graemlins/awcrap.gif[/img]