my main character is some level assasian and theres nothing good about him. he cant find traps/pick locks/disarm traps etc. the only thing hes good at is hiding in shadows and his backstab is 5x but i never use it. i want to dual class him but the option is not avaliable. is there a certain level i have to be at to dual class or is it just not avaliable to some characters?
and could someone tell me a good strategy for backstabbing since most of the time i just fight head on?

What an Assassin sacrifices in thieving skills, he/she makes it up for with combat skills. I have also noticed one thing.

You have failed to mention the Assassin's Poison Weapon ability.

Using a Tuigan Bow, an Assassin can inflict mortal harm on your enemies, because there is no save against the poison save immunity. This is when you prefer to go brawling head-on, and not use the subtle method of backstabbing.

Also, reconsider using a Thief as your main character if your playing style is one of brash melee. Using a Thief effectively requires patience, unless you just use him/her as a Trap-layer.

To Dual-class, you need to be Human. You need 15 DEX since you are a Thief-class, and 17 in the main stat of your secondary class. 17 STR for example, if you want to dual to a Fighter.

[ 06-22-2002, 02:11 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

[quote]Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:

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Originally posted by Witherlain: [qb]To Dual-class, you need to be Human. You need 15 DEX since you are a Thief-class, and 17 in the main stat of your secondary class. 17 STR for example, if you want to dual to a Fighter.

Yup... And a 17 WIS for a cleric and a 17 INT for a mage. Mind you that you can't dual-class to another specialized kit, but only to a "normal" class. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Oh, and have I mentioned how deliciously fun it is to backstab a person with Poison Weapon activated? http://www.plauder-smilies.de/evilgrinblack.gif

Target: "I live! I... I... ah... ah... ..." *collapses and dies*

how would i raise certain stats to 17? with magical items or is their other ways?

<font color=Orange>No but you have now :D </font>

Generally, people set their stats at character creation. The game does allow for minor modifications though, but your best bet is set it correctly at character creation first.

Waits for the ch-... ~people~ who use SK, to suggest using SK... ... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I didn't think you could dual or multi with the kits.......

If I find I do not like a particular class/kit, I have a tendency to abandon the game. I decided to try the WizardSlayer and he's been in the Underdark for about two months now waiting for my return to the game....... :D My opinion is that it might be better for the overall experience if you simply try a different char. For what it's worth.

You can dual from a valid kit.
You cannot dual to a kit.

All multiclasses do not have kits.

Hence the dualclassed Kensai->Mage. ;)

Hmmm,is it a good idea to duel to clerics, i was thinking of dualing my assasin to Cleric, since i want some more summoning spells(my party isn;t very tank effident with just Korgan)

and I don't want mage, cause mage wouldn't let me use armour (and I am loving my shadow armour)

<font color="lightblue">The only way to change them by more than 1 or 2 points is to use a cheating program such as Shadowkeeper.
Instructions on how to get/use it are here.

HOWEVER- I would *not* recomend using this program unless you absolutely need to. ESPECIALLY if this is your first run through the game- it has a small chance of ruining your gaming experience. </font>

actually, I hate to conterdict you old cahp, but your wrong. there are 'certain' tomes scatered around BG1, and if you happened to import them into bg2... these tome raise relevent stats. I found by the end of Bg1, Calaethis's stats were higher then they had any right to be, and by the end of BG2, after 'hell', they were even higher! ;) see it pays to go though the entire seris. using shadow keep is ok I suppose, for your 3rd or 4th game, if only to see what its like to be able to play as a 'god'.

Yah, but as you said, they are in BG1. So unless he makes a Thief character in BG1, then import and convert it into an Assassin, it has no relevance.

Remember, he is asking whether it is possible to raise the stats in BG2. Tomes are not one of the valid options.

Woudl it be a good idea to duel my assasin to a cleric??

I am sure there is an add on called the bonus merchants stuff that you can get from Sorcerers Place, you can put them in your override folder and it adds one merchant in The copper coronet and one in the Adventurer's Mart.

One of those sells these tomes that boost your stats.

Try here http://www.sorcerers.net

This is like officialish because there was a special bonus BGII SoA CD edition that some people were able to buy that actually installed this stuff, but it was limited edition, so Sorcerers Place just made it available for everyone.

That is how I got mine.

You can Clua Console these books in as well if you want. The Ironworks should have a list of the items on its BG1 page, BG1 stuff CLUAs in to BGII.

But I advise you not to go overboard as it ruins the game. One or two books at the most.

Or you could just do it the honest way, restart and reroll for ever until you get the stats you want.

I cheated with my second game and gave up over half way and started again without any cheats whatsoever and I felt much better doing that.

Lady Zidane

I'm not fond of the Cleric/Thief combination for 2 reasons.
1) The only weapons you can Backstab with are the Staff and Club. So, if you want to use a Shield, you're stuck with what is probably the worst melee weapon in the game.
2) Cleric/Thieves get a button for Cast Spell, a button for Turn Undead, a button for Stealth, a button for Find Traps, a button for Stealth.....etc. The restult of this is that you can only have 1 Quick Weapon (I think), and your Pick Locks/Pick Traps/Pick Pockets button gets kicked into your Special Abilities button.

Nope. The Bonus Merchants ARE perfectly legitimate, and they DO sell some neat stuff, but you will NEVER be able to BUY anything that will permanently raise your stats. There are ways to boost yourself (or any other party member), but you have to go out and FIGHT your way to them, and they are usually difficult to get to.

There are lots of items to buy that will raise your stats while that item is equipped, but this effect vanishes as soon as you remove the item. Raising your stats to the Dual-Classing requirements in this manner will NOT work. When you Dual-class, the game checks your ACTUAL character stats--not the stats you temporarily have as the result of an item, spell, or potion.

yea so anyway i guess im stuck with my assasian cuz i dont want to cheat and raise my stats but ill try to make the best of him could someone give my a good strategy for backstabbing?

Ok, so no on the cleirc.

What do yuo suggest for a duel then??