Check out this link and tell me what you would do to this POS.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/u...tner=earthlink

Elif, to do a proper job on this guy, you would have to send for the Handmaidens and their tentacle rods. Or resurrect some of the Gestapo.

Aye, what a nut case this guy is. Oh well I thought it would kill him quickly. Bah. Slow and painful, grrrrrrrrrrrrrr. No rehabilitateing this moron. I found many more articles like this one. It is shame people like this are allowed to procreate. Agrivates the bajeeba's out of me that there are people who would even defend this type of person and try to get them off on a technicality only so they can do it again and again and again.
Hey I have an idea, let's forget all moral fiber and go on a torture fest of our fellow human being's, and then claim it was due to a tramatic childhood where we werent loved or cared for. Enough is enough of crap like this, take responsability for your action's, after all you were the one who did it.

Rant mode off before I get into trouble.

I don't want to start a debate on the subject, and I'm just saying this as my personal opinion, but criminals like this affirm my belief in the death penalty. [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

When his son finally dies of AIDS, will he be charged with murder? I know he was sentanced to life, but if there is any chance he could get out on parole, etc., I certainly hope they try him again for murder, so the only way he leaves prison is in a box.

[ 11-20-2002, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

what an utter shithead :| :|

i know i normally write against such punishments, but it would be very tempting to inject HIM with HIV to see how he copes?

[img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img] dammit, that's sick

Its a sick world we live in..

wow, my day suddenly got much brighter [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Im speechless. :mad:

Hmm mayeb that's the place they can be put away... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Oh yes, it would be very, very, very tempting to do so. And I'd be honoured to be the one holding the syringe.

How could anyone do such a thing!!! [img]graemlins/madhell.gif[/img]
The man is clearly insane!!!
I wish that he suffers in that prison as much as his son does now!!!Or even more would be better!!!!
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[ 11-20-2002, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: purre ]

I think it's perfect for the rat bastard. The poor child will probably eventually pass away and then he can be tried for the new crime of murder one and find a pine box at the end of his prison term. A perfectly miserable end for a perfectly miserable person. I'll bet the child support deal looks better and better as time goes on. Torment by hindsight!

Oh yes, it would be very, very, very tempting to do so. And I'd be honoured to be the one holding the syringe.</font>[/QUOTE]For once I agree with you, neb. people like that should be f***ing shot and tortured. It's worse that parents actually do possibly worse to their children on a reasonably regular basis!
I mean...the papers are full of stories about children abused to death by their parents, some even sexually abused before being beaten to death, and things like this MAKE ME MAD!

Bring the PoS to my gibberlings! We will let him cook in the desert sun then eat him as jerky. Oh the joy!

i read some time ago, btw, that, according to UK law, if someone that knowingly has AIDS in Britain has sex with someone previously unaffected, they can be done for murder

<font color="#ff6666">Just my S.A.O. but people like this need to be recycled and use their remains as fertilizer. Putting them away serves no useful purpose. </font>

Interesting fact that has now made me Chaste :eek:

Interesting fact that has now made me Chaste :eek: </font>[/QUOTE]Little word called contraception makes life worth living ;)

Interesting fact that has now made me Chaste :eek: </font>[/QUOTE]Little word called contraception makes life worth living ;) </font>[/QUOTE]Thank God for science.

Amen [img]smile.gif[/img]

Amen [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]*saluts condom providers*

My god. I knew people could do terrible things to their children, but this..

Surprisingly, I favor a somewhat kinder, more humane approach to some suggested above.

One Bullet.

To quote myself "that is sick and twisted" Send him to Texas and fry his ass!! [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]

Unlike Some people here, I consider Murder & Torture a bad thing.

The amount of hatred I see vented over things like this is sometimes dispiriting,
But of course it’s easy to _wish_ it on someone.
How far have we come in the last 2000 years?
This thread makes me wonder.

Would you really want someone tortured? Or killed even?
REALLY?
Do you even know what that entails?
Evidently not.

All people have the right to life, even those guilty of the worst of crimes.

What he did is an act of pure insanity; no normal person would do as such, Thus I probably think that being detained in a secure mental unit for the rest of his days will do, Of course since I am not a psych. I cannot say whether that would be truly appropriate, but it seems it.

like who?

Rights are earned, not given. We hear all the time of Human Rights. What about Human Responsibilites?

like who?</font>[/QUOTE]Well I for one agree that murder and torture are a bad thing. The level of barbarity displayed in some of the 'Crime and Punishment' threads on this board is truly sickening at times.

Thankfully the founders of the US had the foresight to place a ban on Cruel and Unusual punishment in the Constitution.

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[ 11-20-2002, 04:50 PM: Message edited by: Rokenn ]

<font color="plum">What would I do to a person like this?

That's a dangerous question, as my personal feelings are contradictory to my Christian ethics. Suffice to say that I agree with injecting him with the HIV virus also. That would be followed by several "closed sessions" involving razor blades, rubbing alcohol, and a generous amount of salt.

As a Christian, however, I realize that such petty retributive actions fall FAR short of the literal <font color="red">HELL</font> that will define his existence for the <font color="yellow">rest of Eternity</font> after his mortal shell expires.

One other thought that brings me a bit of sadistic comfort is the recurring urban legend regarding how prison inmates feel about child abusers. They save some of their worst prison tortures for those who prey on children - sort of a twisted Moral Ethic Syndrome. Don't know how much truth there is to the rumor - then again, look what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer.</font>

Theres some truth in that. In the papers a few months back, the murderer/rapist of sarah payne got stabbed in the face. Youll excuse me if I dont express any sympathy for him.

Eisenschwarz, it would be better for you to comment on the topic rather than attack the opinions of other members

Ciao

I have to disagree with "Life is earned, it isn't a right". God gave everyone life, so who are we to take it away? His life is not ours to take. Besides, for you people who want to see him suffer, I'd think that spending the rest of your life in prison wouldn't be very fun.

Well, let's say that life is a right, then, so when someone violates someone else's right to live, we violate their right to live. He'll end up reaping what he sowed. Why should we feed and give him a place to live for the rest of his life? Might as well stop him being a damn leech on society while we have the chance.

Got to agree here to a point. It's good that people get so upset at crimes such as these - but to respond with violence and hatred?? That disturbs me as well. Let him live out his days in prison reflecting on what he's done. He'll die slowly, trapped, as his son is doing.
Personally, I would want him to be repentant for what he's done before he died. Not excecuted in his defiance.

Remorse is powerful. For someone to be truly remorseful and repentant, they have arrived at a place where they understand the full meaning of what they've done.

I've seen time and time again that hurt people can only forgive the one who hurt them when they feel they have taken ownership of what they've done. When they understand the pain and torment they've caused them and would do anything, give anything, including their own life, to undo it.

I'd like to see him get to that point. It's an ideal I know, but that's why he's in gaol.

[ 11-20-2002, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Leonis ]

[ 11-20-2002, 06:05 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

Well, in one celebrated formulation, either he could be made well or not. If he could be made well, how could he face what he did? Surely, he would hang himself. And, if he cannot be made well, why not hang him? And, either way, once he is hanged, we can be sure that he will not be injecting little boys with HIV+ serum. Apologies to the shade of Robert A. Heinlein. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Just because he killed someone, it doesn't mean we have the right to kill him. Killing him won't cure his son of AIDs. What is important is that he is punished for his crime and he is prevented from doing it again. Throwing him in jail will accomplish that, so you don't need to kill him. A prisoner isn't "leeching on society" nearly as much as a welfare person does, and there are a LOT of people on welfare. It might cost the jail a few dollars a day for him, but what is that? The government rakes in billions each year, so supporting an entire jail might be the same as if a average businessman lived and payed taxes in another country. Not much money is lost. Like I said earlier, we didn't give him life so we shouldn't take it away.

Nothing wrong with that POV Leonis! You make good points.

I don't think anyone who has a different opinion from mine is necessarily **completely** wrong. By definition, I don't completely agree with you, but I know I'm not perfect and am willing to listen.

At least you were able to state your point without "talking down" to anyone. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

[ 11-20-2002, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

<font color="#ff6666">What he did was an evil vile act that cannot be undone, whats worse, if kept alive he could do it to others, there is not one single reason this person should draw another breath.

Just my opinions of course, but I seriously do not want anyone with your type of "compassion" living in my community. I was taught to protect children above all else, and the only way to ensure this sick animal never does anything even remotely like this again is to put him down like the rabid dog he is.

Edit: I apologize if this seems like Im attacking you personally, I am not angry at you, but I do have a problem with people who defend this kind of scum...and that gives scum a bad name. You have your point of view. I hope some day you grow out of it.</font>

[ 11-20-2002, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

<font color="#ff6666">He is in gaol sucking up resources that could be feeding starving children in other parts of the world or even in the same part.

Note: My anger and disgust is not directed at you Leonis or at The big E. But I do not want to live in a community of people that view these issues the way you two seem to. Cancers need to be killed, and this vermin gives cancer a bad name. </font>