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TheCrimsomBlade 11-14-2002 09:57 PM

intel has just anounced its 3.06Ghz pentium 4 computers will
be ready for christmas this year.
they said that the only consumers that will have any use for
it will be gamers and graphic designers.
Dell will release the first 3.06 Ghz computers in the next
couple of weeks. The power Gamer model,look out X-BOX.

/)eathKiller 11-14-2002 09:58 PM

NO NO NO NO!!!

My 2.8 Ghx Compuer was fast and now i have to UPGRADE it already? SHOOT!

>_< slow DOWN pentiuuum! come ooon!!

True_Moose 11-14-2002 10:00 PM

Well apparently silicon will hit the wall at about 10 GHz. I think they're working on carbon chips that go faster though, but how much faster can you possibly need. :rolleyes:

/)eathKiller 11-14-2002 10:01 PM

Actually I just realised that's only 260 more ghx... not that big a differince really [img]tongue.gif[/img]

antryg 11-14-2002 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by /)eathKiller:
Actually I just realised that's only 260 more ghx... not that big a differince really [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Shoot. I was going to get you to give me your old outdated slow chipset.

Paladin2000 11-14-2002 10:14 PM

Not so good news indeed. My 1.4GHz is hopelessly outclassed and I cannot afford to get the top of the line CPU everytime Intel decided to come out with new CPUs. But at least my current CPU will still be able to run games for another 1 year or so...

TheCrimsomBlade 11-14-2002 10:14 PM

it wont be long until first we load a new RPG into our computer and before we have the chance the computer will play all 11 levels of the game and then start a web page with all the cheats layed out for everybody at Ironworks, then start pumping out new MODs so that it dosen't get board.

Lifetime 11-14-2002 11:35 PM

My gorgeous Compaq laptop outdated! Already! At only 1GHz too!
3GhZ computers with like 2gigs of RAM..
And the latest Geforce cards.

I feel like that dude in Wierd Al Yankovich's song "All About the Pentiums"

Thoran 11-15-2002 09:37 AM

The XBox was spanked hard by the 1800+ Athlon XP/GF3 combo I built last year... the new models coming out like the Athlon 2700+, with 8xAGP, GF4 (or faster) graphics, and DDR333 (or faster) memory are light years ahead of anything the XBox is capable of.

Just look at the Doom2 demo to see what these machines are going to do to gaming in the next year... near cinematic quality real-time rendered graphics... as an old timer (first PC was a TI-99) these boxes blow my mind.

Arnabas 11-15-2002 09:46 AM

*sigh*
I am just falling farther and farther behind. I just don't have the resources to update right now, as much as I wish otherwise.
Let me ask a question or two, though. Please bear in mind that I am fairly computer illiterate ("turn on power/ insert disc/ play" being about the extent of my knowledge). If I want to update, I can simply buy components and not a whole new system, right? For example, I can just go buy a new motherboard and put it in, giving me more speed but with all my programs, games, etc. being untouched, right?

Thoran 11-15-2002 09:55 AM

Not likely with a motherboard swap. I have seen instances where Windows XP has survived a mobo swap... but most of the time you need to reinstall the OS when you change something that major.

Upgrade graphics card - ok
More Memory - ok
Faster Processor - ok as long as your old mobo supports the new speed
Sound, mouse, Keyboard - ok
Motherboard - NOT OK

as a general rule you'll want to uninstall the drivers that support your old card BEFORE replacing it with the new one.

Things to worry about with mobo swap:
Power Supply (new mobo/processor combo's require large power supplies, 300 Watts should be considered the absolute minimum imo, and don't by the cheapo generic brand... get a good one... Antec, Fortron, etc...)
Case - especially with Athlons (HOT), you'll want to make sure your case has adequate cooling... most older cases should be replaced. OR you could go liquid cooled like I did on my fastest system (no more cooling problems)
Memory - most older memory... if it will work at all, will slow your new box down significantly. General rule... upgrading mobo?... upgrade Processor and Memory also.

Once you look that over you'll realize that if you're considering a mobo upgrade... you're best bet is to probably buy a new system (especially if you're a computer noob), which is my recommendation to most people these days.

VulcanRider 11-15-2002 10:20 AM

Ho Hum. Incremental advances like this are nice, but a year ago Motorola announced a major breakthrough -- they're working on 70 GHz chips based on optical circuits. Even if it takes them a couple of years to develop, that'll still put them W-A-Y ahead of everybody else...

http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...sp?story=92371

Gammit 11-15-2002 10:35 AM

I recently read that some guy made a composite out of bird feathers that moved electricty much faster than silicon, and without heating problems (no joke). Look out Intel, here comes KFC!

Dundee Slaytern 11-15-2002 10:36 AM

/me looks at his 266 MHz chip.

Oh my goodness! I am living in Stonehedge!

J_E_G 11-15-2002 10:38 AM

As already mentioned theres only so far you can go with Silicon, Just think how fast some of the next gen chips will be, some of the articles I've read mention:
DNA computing
Quantum Computing
(see http://www.newscientist.com/hottopic...p?id=22901400)
Optical Computing
Molecule Cascade techniques (create tiny Babbage engines???)
(see http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/27778.html)

Talkie Toaster could be closer than you think [img]smile.gif[/img]

/)eathKiller 11-15-2002 10:41 AM

Kentucky Freid Chips :D That will totally rock, it will bring a whole new meaning to the Falcon if they include them in their next sporty model [img]smile.gif[/img]

*sigh* at least nobody's gone over 2.5 gigs of ram yet...

J_E_G 11-15-2002 10:43 AM

Just found the DNA Computer Link if your interested:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/1668415.stm

andrewas 11-15-2002 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
/me looks at his 266 MHz chip.

Oh my goodness! I am living in Stonehedge!

And im not that much better. This thread has me all depressed.

3Ghz!

I remember when the 386 was king and the 486 a god.

Anyway, on the subject of chips of incredible power, you can forget about quantum. Since they can beat all encryption standards almost instantly, the US govt will never let them be sold publicly.

I also have my doubt on DNA-processors, but I havent looked at them recently. My bet would be on the terahertz technology near term, then optical chips in 5 or 6 years.

Damn. 3Ghz!

Thoran 11-15-2002 11:28 AM

I work in Corporate Engineering for a company that's on the bleeding edge (lots of bleeding lately) of the optics industry. I've seen some very cool technology, but don't hold your breath waiting for optical computing... it's more than a few years away still. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Sir Krustin 11-15-2002 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Arnabas:
*sigh*
I am just falling farther and farther behind. I just don't have the resources to update right now, as much as I wish otherwise.
Let me ask a question or two, though. Please bear in mind that I am fairly computer illiterate ("turn on power/ insert disc/ play" being about the extent of my knowledge). If I want to update, I can simply buy components and not a whole new system, right? For example, I can just go buy a new motherboard and put it in, giving me more speed but with all my programs, games, etc. being untouched, right?

Mostly this is true. If you have a system built in the last couple of years, chances are you already have the necessary power supply to hook up to a modern mobo. If you don't have an ATX power supply, or the output is less than 300W you will likely need at least a new case to go with the mobo, and chances are you'll want memory to complement the new setup.

As an example, my last machine was an AMD K6/2-450Mhz with PC133 memory. When I upgraded, I kept the HD, the video setup, and all my peripherals (keyboard, mouse, etc) but I had to upgrade the mobo to support the T-Bird 1.2gHz cpu, and in order to avoid hamstringing the cpu I installed 266Mhz DDR memory.

If I upgrade again in the next couple of months, I will likely switch mobos again in order to gain the ability to run 333Mhz memory to make the most of the faster CPUs.

Additionally, if you have anything less than a GeForce3 Ti video card, you will almost certainly want a GeForce4 Ti video card in order to be able to play any of the latest games.

Sir Goulum 11-15-2002 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
/me looks at his 266 MHz chip.

Oh my goodness! I am living in Stonehedge!

We can live there together, Dundee. I'm at 400 MHz :(

SirTristram 11-15-2002 08:10 PM

733Mhz *sniff* damnit!

Sir Goulum 11-15-2002 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SirTristram:
733Mhz *sniff* damnit!
Well, your better than me! :(

Lord Lothar 11-15-2002 08:50 PM

<font color="cadetblue"> [img]graemlins/jawdrop.gif[/img] Well my new 1.7 ghz will have to last me for the next 3 years or so. My next one will probably be when it gets at 5 ghz...</font>


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