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Larry_OHF 10-15-2002 12:27 PM

<font color=skyblue>I read in a news article today that test were starting to prove that a red-headed person requires 20% more dmediacal drugs that are used in such cases as operations to be put to sleep or relaxed during the ordeal. I knew that red-heads were chemically different than others, but I cannot remember the facts about how so. This is a very interesting find!</font>

johnny 10-15-2002 12:31 PM

I'm gonna open an apothecry in Scotland ! :D MONEY !!! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Redblueflare 10-15-2002 12:31 PM

Really remind me not to shoot any tranquilizer darts at a redhead. I didn't know they were chemically different at all. News to me... [img]smile.gif[/img]

RevRuby 10-15-2002 12:37 PM

i can attest to this, as i am a red head. codiene does ntohign for me, it takes a lot of ibuprofen to kill a headache for me and it takes forever for novacain to take effect. also red head are harder to stick, as in drawing blood and such. we are unique creatures. also the gene for red hair is not on the same chromosome as other hair color genes.

Larry_OHF 10-15-2002 12:41 PM

<font color=skyblue>Sorry I left out the link. here it is</font>
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The theory hinges on melanin, a pigment responsible for skin and hair color.

The sun triggers a hormone that in turn triggers the production of melanin to form a tan. Redheads seldom tan easily because they have a defective receptor for that hormone -- a quirk with this "melanocortin-1 receptor" that also leaves their hair red. Without its intended receptor to dock in, the melanin-producing hormone may cross-react with a related receptor on brain cells that influences pain sensitivity, Sessler explained.

That's still a theory. Here's what Sessler can say for certain: He and colleagues gave 10 healthy women with naturally red hair and 10 with dark hair the common inhaled anesthetic desflurane. Then they administered electric shocks -- not enough to do damage but enough to cause pain -- and inched the desflurane dose up or down according to the pain response until each patient was judged to be at the optimum anesthetic dose. The redheads required a 20 percent higher dose.

Sessler said his lab first tested a few blondes and found they reacted the same as brunettes. That was expected since only redheads have the melanocortin-1 defect.

The study doesn't address if men would react similarly -- there are gender differences for many drugs -- or if redheads would be similarly affected by non-inhaled types of anesthesia.


Ronn_Bman 10-15-2002 12:52 PM

My cousin is a red-head, and she's certainly different genetically speaking.

She has 4 kidneys, and they all function. If I remember correctly, she has two "in-line" on both the left and right sides.

Bruce The Aussie 10-15-2002 12:57 PM

wow, i never new red heads were different from brunettes. thats kinda weird really.

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Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
My cousin is a red-head, and she's certainly different genetically speaking.

She has 4 kidneys, and they all function. If I remember correctly, she has two "in-line" on both the left and right sides.

that is so cool. is she an organ donar? :D

Ronn_Bman 10-15-2002 01:06 PM

Actually I've asked her that. ;)

She says they can't be donated. I'm sure I'm not explaining it exactly right, but by working in-line, they are dependant on one another, so she needs them all. Taking out one would disable it's partner.

WillowIX 10-15-2002 01:27 PM

Thank god for hair dye :D Iīm now more of a brunette lol. But Iīve never had this problem since I tan very easily, WHEW *wipes her forehead*. I do know that some people donīt respond to codein but have no clue if this is pigment induced lol. But Ronn, I still donīt get why your friend canīt donate kidneys. I can understand why she wouldnīt be allowed (if thatīs the case). But kidneys work separately from eachother, that is if one functions thatīs enough. Ah well, not my area of anatomy lol. I prefer to work a tad higher up on the body [img]smile.gif[/img]

Grojlach 10-15-2002 01:33 PM

Well, as long as they're not gonna turn me into a labrat, I'm cool with it. Makes you proud to be a redhead.

Ronn_Bman 10-15-2002 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by WillowIX:
kidneys work separately from each other, that is if one functions thatīs enough.
Maybe she told me that she couldn't donate them because she thought I might want one...lol [img]smile.gif[/img]

RevRuby 10-15-2002 02:15 PM

actually most any man who's been with blondes, brunettes and red heads can tell yout here is a hormonal difference. even i notice it as i have few red headed friends in my life. i simply don;t react well to most of them. of course tho some of thses observations of my own can be and most likely are effected by how osmeone has grown up. so the personality difference in red head compared to other hair colors will vary. and brings up the question of what effects us most, nature or nurture? the norm (as i ahve heard anyway) for red heads is to be un-inhibited in intamate situations, however a red head who has had something tragic happen may not be so free. this sounds like a debate that needs a thread of it's own if anyone wishes to post their veiws.

Redblueflare 10-15-2002 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by RevRuby:
actually most any man who's been with blondes, brunettes and red heads can tell yout here is a hormonal difference. even i notice it as i have few red headed friends in my life. i simply don;t react well to most of them. of course tho some of thses observations of my own can be and most likely are effected by how osmeone has grown up. so the personality difference in red head compared to other hair colors will vary. and brings up the question of what effects us most, nature or nurture? the norm (as i ahve heard anyway) for red heads is to be un-inhibited in intamate situations, however a red head who has had something tragic happen may not be so free. this sounds like a debate that needs a thread of it's own if anyone wishes to post their veiws.
I haven't met many red heads so I have no idea if they act differently or not. Still isn't it a little strange to think someone will act a certain way because of their *hair* color?

Moni 10-15-2002 02:52 PM

Well now I know I am a freak LOL.
I have mostly brown hair but there are red and blonde streaks that surface in the sunlight...and the more sun I get, the redder the brown turns and the golder the red and blonde gets, but I have none of the characteristics asssociated with redheads beyond perhaps few inhibitions (*which I associate with personality rather than hair-color since I know a few extremely shy red heads).
As for veins, mine are great...must come from the black-haired Apaches of my ancestry LOL but it is true for me personally that I used to require a higher dosage of sedatives and painkillers than "normal" people. Now I can get drunk and pass out of two extra strangth buffered aspirin. It was all just a matter of changing my diet to exclude chemically processed foods and eventually cleansing my system of the unnatural chemicals.

DragonMage 10-15-2002 09:27 PM

Well, as a classified red-head (my hair is auburn, but gets 'redder' from the sun), I can say it takes a LOT of pain killer for me to find relief. I also can take pain much better than most people, so by the time I need pain killers, I'm in a LOT of pain.

I also can 'hold my liquor' better than most as well.

Maybe it's just a general resistance to any 'drug' whether alcohol or other things.

Needless to say, this means I don't take many pills, I've just learned to live with pain and I 'zen' out to deal with the worst of it. [img]smile.gif[/img]

And I don't drink much. There's not much point in it for me and gets quite expensive when you need great quantities to get the usual desired effect. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Attalus 10-15-2002 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie:
wow, i never new red heads were different from brunettes. thats kinda weird really.


I can tell that you've never been married to one. Different doesn't begin to describe it.

TAOWolf 10-15-2002 10:13 PM

ooOOOoo Attalus, wait til Gala reads THAT!! *LOL* ;)

Okay, Larry, what about me? I have silver, blonde, red and gray hair, which is dyed blonde *L*

Blind_Prophet 10-15-2002 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Attalus:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie:
wow, i never new red heads were different from brunettes. thats kinda weird really.


I can tell that you've never been married to one. Different doesn't begin to describe it.</font>[/QUOTE]Enlighten us. I'm young could use a bit of extra knowledge about it.

Larry_OHF 10-15-2002 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by TAOWolf:

Okay, Larry, what about me? I have silver, blonde, red and gray hair, which is dyed blonde *L*

<font color=skyblue>You're my mom!
Well, if you are not...then you have the same attributes. She had red hair when she was a little girl, then it turned silver/grey by the time she was thirty. She dyed it blond, but that has since gone away 50% in her elder age. </font>

Yorick 10-16-2002 02:08 AM

When I grow it, I have a dark reddish beard, and a slight reddish tinge to my light brown hair. But I'm no carrot-top.

Iboprofen does nothing to me either.

When I had operations, I'd often be well awake well past when I should've (past the second injection). To kill a headache, especially a migrane, I really have to o/d on the tylenol.... :(

Now I know, I guess.

[ 10-16-2002, 02:09 AM: Message edited by: Yorick ]

DragonMage 10-16-2002 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by Attalus:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie:
wow, i never new red heads were different from brunettes. thats kinda weird really.


I can tell that you've never been married to one. Different doesn't begin to describe it.</font>[/QUOTE]LOLOL! Heeeeeeey! I resemble that remark! [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Melusine 10-16-2002 09:23 AM

Actually I don't think most of the people in this thread that I've seen are true redheads (except for Grojlach :D ). A true redhead isn't slightly reddish or strawberry blond or auburn or something... A carrot-top, like Yorick put it, is the only one with actual RED hair, I think... I have a red cast to my blonde hair sometimes but that doesn't make me "a little red-headed". Lots of hair colours have a reddish glow or tinge to them in certain light or certain whether, but most of them are not actually RED (or orange, more appropriately :D ).

Attalus 10-16-2002 09:25 AM

Well, TAO, I'm not worried, since <font color=lavender>Galadria</font> refuses to come to Gen Discussion any more. Anyway, she's a blonde.
DM, I'm sure that you are nothing like my first wife, but I have a deviated septum from a broken nose, and the bills from a couple of trips to the ER (don't ask) to show for being married to her.
Yorick, don't take too much Tylenol (Acetoaminophen), it will fry your liver, and I'm not kidding, for once. ;)

DragonMage 10-16-2002 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Attalus:
DM, I'm sure that you are nothing like my first wife, but I have a deviated septum from a broken nose, and the bills from a couple of trips to the ER (don't ask) to show for being married to her.

Well! In that case, I DON'T resemble THAT! [img]redface.gif[/img]

I thought you were referring to the 'fiery' temperament, but I'm not a violent person, just 'difficult' sometimes. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And Mel, just so you will know about my comments here - I WAS a 'carrot top' when I was young. ;) As I've aged (and probably as a result of numerous chemical treatment (perms, colorings, etc.)), it has darkened over the years. So my color is not brown with a little red in it, it's red with some darker reds in it. [img]smile.gif[/img] BTW: *hugs* Been a while since we interacted here. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Morgeruat 10-16-2002 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Attalus:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Bruce The Aussie:
wow, i never new red heads were different from brunettes. thats kinda weird really.


I can tell that you've never been married to one. Different doesn't begin to describe it.</font>[/QUOTE]I can second that

Morgeruat 10-16-2002 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Melusine:
Actually I don't think most of the people in this thread that I've seen are true redheads (except for Grojlach :D ). A true redhead isn't slightly reddish or strawberry blond or auburn or something... A carrot-top, like Yorick put it, is the only one with actual RED hair, I think... I have a red cast to my blonde hair sometimes but that doesn't make me "a little red-headed". Lots of hair colours have a reddish glow or tinge to them in certain light or certain whether, but most of them are not actually RED (or orange, more appropriately :D ).
I can personally certify that RevRuby is a *natural* redhead ;)

RevRuby 10-16-2002 11:14 AM

thanx morgie!

actually to tell a red head one does not look at her head. i am not a carrot top (i don;t have bright orange hair and freckles all over) but i can guarentee i am a natural red head. my father was born red and is now blonde (very "dirty") but has ared mustasche he still shows red headed attributes as well. but in anycase, as far as girlies go and red hair it's not what's on their head that counts.

[ 10-16-2002, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: RevRuby ]

Moni 10-16-2002 03:57 PM

Oh! TMI!!!!!!!!!
*runs from the thread screaming*

Yorick 10-16-2002 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by RevRuby:
as far as girlies go and red hair it's not what's on their head that counts.
Too much information!! :D :D

Attalus 10-16-2002 06:04 PM

I wouldn't touch that one with a ten foot pole. *Gets out an eleven-foot pole.* Nope, not that, either. :D


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