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Rokenn 10-11-2002 12:27 PM

How long will it be till Bush pulls the trigger?

Ronn_Bman 10-11-2002 12:56 PM

I think the 3 weeks or so left before November elections makes an October surprise pretty impossible.

Rokenn 10-11-2002 01:33 PM

Long range bomber strikes could start today, as well as cruise missle strikes from ships already in the Gulf. Also I remember reading a month or two ago about a quiet build up of ground forces in the region.

[ 10-11-2002, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: Rokenn ]

Timber Loftis 10-11-2002 01:37 PM

Dontcha just love it that the bombing runs on Kosovo were made out of Montana?

Lanesra 10-11-2002 02:47 PM

Saturday 18:27 pm.

Ronn_Bman 10-11-2002 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanesra:
Saturday 18:27 pm.
Alright darn it! Who told this guy? You know he's not cleared !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NiceWorg 10-11-2002 03:51 PM

Why oh why.

I predict early December.

shadow dragon 10-11-2002 03:56 PM

anybody know how to say merry christmas in arabic?

johnny 10-11-2002 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadow dragon:
anybody know how to say merry christmas in arabic?
المعارضة العراقية بالارتياب إزاء ما تردد بشأن

Something like that. :D

Sir Goulum 10-11-2002 10:04 PM

October 31....Trick or Treat! :D

The Hierophant 10-11-2002 10:59 PM

Most likely next year. My friends' brother has just graduated from the Australian army. Upon graduation (a couple of months back) they were asked who would be prepared to aid a US-led assault on Iraq 'early next year'. This was before Iraq became 'gangraped-middle-eastern-country-of-the-month', back when Afghanistan essentially still held that title. An Iraq invasion has been on the US republican aggenda for a long long time.

So yeah, next year is my vote.

[ 10-11-2002, 11:07 PM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]

Animal 10-11-2002 11:15 PM

Perhaps when Bush decides to use his brain, he'll realize that killing innocent people isn't going to solve his problem. I still have yet to see hard proof as to a need to invade Iraq other than installing a puppet government to sell cheap oil to the US. Perhaps I'm wrong, but...

Megabot 10-11-2002 11:28 PM

They talked about january 2003.. after what i have hear on Cnn and BBC news and i hope they do!!

John D Harris 10-11-2002 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Dontcha just love it that the bombing runs on Kosovo were made out of Montana?
Are you sure it wasn't Missouri? B2's are kept at SAC bases, and I don't recall any SAC bases in Montana. But at my age the memory is the second thing to go, I forgoten what the first was ;)

Rikard_OHF 10-12-2002 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shadow dragon:
anybody know how to say merry christmas in arabic?
you'd think he knew that iraq is an islamic country...

Personalli i hope Iraq is smart enough to force saddam into doing everything the UN wants but i dont see how this "war" can be avoided :(

/)eathKiller 10-12-2002 02:34 AM

The reality is that America will go to war whenever bush feels like it... it could be tonight even...

LennonCook 10-12-2002 04:33 AM

<font color="lightblue">If Bush thinks America wants him to go, he`ll go before the election.
If he thinks that America DOESN`T want him to go, he`ll hope to get back in, and do it straight after the election. </font>

Grojlach 10-12-2002 06:31 AM

Whenever Bush is seriously dropping in the polls, that's when the US will attack Iraq...

[ 10-12-2002, 06:31 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

johnny 10-12-2002 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grojlach:
Whenever Bush is seriously dropping in the polls, that's when the US will attack Iraq...
How long until the elections ? Two years ? I have a feeling the attack will come much earlier, like this or next week.

khazadman 10-12-2002 09:09 AM

No Johnny, the elections mentioned are this November. They are for the house, senate, and various governorships.

johnny 10-12-2002 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by khazadman:
No Johnny, the elections mentioned are this November. They are for the house, senate, and various governorships.
I don't think Bush has to worry, invasion or no. I think the majority of the US citizens is still behind him. :hidesbehindcouch:

Ronn_Bman 10-12-2002 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grojlach:
Whenever Bush is seriously dropping in the polls, that's when the US will attack Iraq...
WOW, if that's true, it might never happen. ;)

johnny 10-12-2002 12:25 PM

So, you're saying if there were elections now, he would lose ?

Ronn_Bman 10-12-2002 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
So, you're saying if there were elections now, he would lose ?
Nope, I'm saying he hasn't seen a serious drop in the polls, and I don't forsee one.

johnny 10-12-2002 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
So, you're saying if there were elections now, he would lose ?

Nope, I'm saying he hasn't seen a serious drop in the polls, and I don't forsee one.</font>[/QUOTE]That's what i thought. I guess i misunderstood a few things then. (as usual) :D

skywalker 10-12-2002 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
So, you're saying if there were elections now, he would lose ?

Nope, I'm saying he hasn't seen a serious drop in the polls, and I don't forsee one.</font>[/QUOTE]Can you say "the economy"?

Mark

Ronn_Bman 10-12-2002 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
Can you say "the economy"?

Mark
Yes, but not as loudly, NOR as frequently, as Democrates trying to be re-elected to the House and Senate...LOL!

If memory serves.....Democrates began complaining about the economy under a Republican President within days of George "W" taking office. ;)

[ 10-12-2002, 11:38 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

whacky 10-13-2002 05:18 AM

I do agree with the fact that getting cheap oil from iraq is going to be a decisive factor in the war. Perhaps other countries are backing out because they dont see their own benefit in such an assault!

skywalker 10-13-2002 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ronn_Bman:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by skywalker:
Can you say "the economy"?

Mark

Yes, but not as loudly, NOR as frequently, as Democrates trying to be re-elected to the House and Senate...LOL!

If memory serves.....Democrates began complaining about the economy under a Republican President within days of George "W" taking office. ;)
</font>[/QUOTE]So you think the Republicans are not using the War On Terrorism and with Iraq to get elected. It seems like a big smoke screen to me. Neither side is without sin in regard to tactics being used in the race to November 5th.

Mark

Ronn_Bman 10-13-2002 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
So you think the Republicans are not using the War On Terrorism and with Iraq to get elected. It seems like a big smoke screen to me. Neither side is without sin in regard to tactics being used in the race to November 5th.

Mark
I absolutely agree that both sides spend too much time trying to use legitimate issues to make the other guy look bad.

I don't think the Republicans are ready to go to war to "win seats", but I do think they will use the issue to their advantage political, if at all possible.

I don't think the Democrates try to keep the economy "in the bucket" to make the Republican administration look bad and thereby helping them "hold seats", but they certainly don't mind pointing a finger to help their political party.

I wish people in power didn't have to "play sides". I think they should all be on the same side....our side. :(

[ 10-13-2002, 02:20 PM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]

Gromnir 10-14-2002 06:05 AM

I don't think that America should bomb Iraq at all!

The Trickster 10-14-2002 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gromnir:
I don't think that America should bomb Iraq at all!
I know why people feel the way that you do Gromnir, but what should America do? If they just ignore the problem, it will not go away, and these people are almost impossible to reason with. Does anyone here know a better solution?

Timber Loftis 10-14-2002 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Trickster:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Gromnir:
I don't think that America should bomb Iraq at all!

I know why people feel the way that you do Gromnir, but what should America do? If they just ignore the problem, it will not go away, and these people are almost impossible to reason with. Does anyone here know a better solution?</font>[/QUOTE]Drop tanks and helicopters on them, as I've suggested before. :D

Rokenn 10-14-2002 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Trickster:
I know why people feel the way that you do Gromnir, but what should America do? If they just ignore the problem, it will not go away, and these people are almost impossible to reason with. Does anyone here know a better solution?
Just last week the CIA released a report saying that the chances of Iraq attacking the US are every low. If we attack them the chances of them attacking us increase greatly.

johnny 10-14-2002 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rokenn:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Trickster:
I know why people feel the way that you do Gromnir, but what should America do? If they just ignore the problem, it will not go away, and these people are almost impossible to reason with. Does anyone here know a better solution?

Just last week the CIA released a report saying that the chances of Iraq attacking the US are every low. If we attack them the chances of them attacking us increase greatly.</font>[/QUOTE]If they want to attack the US, they will need a strong fleet of navy vessels and overall air dominance.......now if you'll excuse me while i laugh my ass off. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img]

Redblueflare 10-14-2002 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rokenn:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Trickster:
I know why people feel the way that you do Gromnir, but what should America do? If they just ignore the problem, it will not go away, and these people are almost impossible to reason with. Does anyone here know a better solution?

Just last week the CIA released a report saying that the chances of Iraq attacking the US are every low. If we attack them the chances of them attacking us increase greatly.</font>[/QUOTE]I don't mean any harm by this but well... duh! [img]tongue.gif[/img] I honestly don't see much of a reason for attacking Iraq either. We *think* Suddam has weapons, but do we *know* for sure? Attacking him for that reason doesn't make much sense to me. Of course you can hide just about anything in areas which you've declared *sensitive* :rolleyes: (What kind of fools does he think we are anyway?)

Rokenn 10-14-2002 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Rokenn:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by The Trickster:
I know why people feel the way that you do Gromnir, but what should America do? If they just ignore the problem, it will not go away, and these people are almost impossible to reason with. Does anyone here know a better solution?

Just last week the CIA released a report saying that the chances of Iraq attacking the US are every low. If we attack them the chances of them attacking us increase greatly.</font>[/QUOTE]If they want to attack the US, they will need a strong fleet of navy vessels and overall air dominance.......now if you'll excuse me while i laugh my ass off. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]But that is the rub Johnny, as one of Bush's rationals for attacking Iraq is that an attack from them is imminent.

Ronn_Bman 10-14-2002 10:30 AM

Actually I don't think anyone believes the Iraqi army is headed for North America ;)

The imminent threat is from Iraq's distribution of weapons of mass destruction to those who would use them against the US.

The CIA report mentioned said that, if attacked, Saddam would probably use everything at his disposal, but that an Iraqi "offensive" prior to any UN action was unlikely.

[ 10-14-2002, 10:32 AM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]


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