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Ziroc 09-12-2002 05:26 PM

Holy crap, talk about synchronicity...

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[ 09-12-2002, 05:27 PM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]

AzRaeL StoRmBlaDe 09-12-2002 05:37 PM

Ohhh the Irony ;)

Sir Goulum 09-12-2002 05:39 PM

You kinda begin to wonder if they planned this.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 09-12-2002 05:44 PM

yeah, I'd heard about that via SKy News. :| I think its some kinda scam. but then, I'm in a cynical mood. IF they did do this on purpose, it isnt funny, and its not clever. its immature, and disrespectful to the dead. (even tho Im NOT an american I still think the dead should be honoured)

andrewas 09-12-2002 05:46 PM

Three balles, each can be one of 10 digits. Odds are 1 in 1000. Pretty low, but nothing extreme. Be interesting to see if many people played them though.

Sir Goulum 09-12-2002 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
Three balles, each can be one of 10 digits. Odds are 1 in 1000. Pretty low, but nothing extreme. Be interesting to see if many people played them though.
But then, you have to take into account that there is 365 days in a year....these chances are verry extreme.

Jeffi0 09-12-2002 05:53 PM

Heh, I say it was rigged. :rolleyes:

andrewas 09-12-2002 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andrewas:
Three balles, each can be one of 10 digits. Odds are 1 in 1000. Pretty low, but nothing extreme. Be interesting to see if many people played them though.

But then, you have to take into account that there is 365 days in a year....these chances are verry extreme.</font>[/QUOTE]No, the chances of 911 showing up on 9/11/02 are the same as 911 showing up on 8/11/02 or 10/11/02 - or even 9/11/03.

If Ziroc posts this thread again on 10/11/03 I'll believe its a conspiracy.

Sir Goulum 09-12-2002 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andrewas:
Three balles, each can be one of 10 digits. Odds are 1 in 1000. Pretty low, but nothing extreme. Be interesting to see if many people played them though.

But then, you have to take into account that there is 365 days in a year....these chances are verry extreme.</font>[/QUOTE]No, the chances of 911 showing up on 9/11/02 are the same as 911 showing up on 8/11/02 or 10/11/02 - or even 9/11/03.

If Ziroc posts this thread again on 10/11/03 I'll believe its a conspiracy.
</font>[/QUOTE]Oh...I thought that the amount of days in a year would make a change..thanks for clearing that up for me, Andrewas!!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

johnny 09-12-2002 06:42 PM

I don't believe in miracles like that, it's manipulated.

Willard 09-12-2002 08:55 PM

I think that rigged that machine, to show their respect in some weird way and make it a publicity stunt all in one shot. Either that, or it is just a sign that even though it is a very sad day, there can still be happiness on the 11th.

Grojlach 09-13-2002 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
Three balles, each can be one of 10 digits. Odds are 1 in 1000. Pretty low, but nothing extreme. Be interesting to see if many people played them though.
A lot. I read an article prior to 9/11 about how many gamblers decided to go for 911 in their number on September the 11th. Assuming this is the kind of lottery where you play with your own number...

LennonCook 09-13-2002 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
No, the chances of 911 showing up on 9/11/02 are the same as 911 showing up on 8/11/02 or 10/11/02 - or even 9/11/03.


<font color="lightblue">The chances of a particular combination showing up are 1 in 1000 yes, but the chances of a particulat combination showing up on a particular day must take into account the number of days in the year;
Thus, the chances of 9-1-1 showing up on the 11th of September are infact 1 in 365,000 </font>

Donut 09-13-2002 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LennonCook:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by andrewas:
No, the chances of 911 showing up on 9/11/02 are the same as 911 showing up on 8/11/02 or 10/11/02 - or even 9/11/03.


<font color="lightblue">The chances of a particular combination showing up are 1 in 1000 yes, but the chances of a particulat combination showing up on a particular day must take into account the number of days in the year;
Thus, the chances of 9-1-1 showing up on the 11th of September are infact 1 in 365,000 </font>
</font>[/QUOTE]What are the chances of 911 coming up today? 1000-1 The odds are the same every day.

The number of days in the year is irrelevant, why not the number of days in the month?

Cloudbringer 09-13-2002 07:02 AM

Hey Z! I was going to post that very thing! Lottery Number comes up same as the date on such a significant day. Weird, huh?! I heard it on the news as I was dressing yesterday. The radio show hosts were talking about how it was so ironic that it came up like that on 9-11-02 and they wondered what the person doing the drawing felt like when it came up with the final number. Me, I'd have been shocked! LOL

[ 09-13-2002, 07:03 AM: Message edited by: Cloudbringer ]

LennonCook 09-14-2002 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
What are the chances of 911 coming up today? 1000-1 The odds are the same every day.

The number of days in the year is irrelevant, why not the number of days in the month?

<font color="lightblue">The chances of it coming up on whatever day you put it in are 1000-1, yes; but if you want the exact date to come up, there are alot more considerations.

That combination has a 1000-1 chance of coming up on any day of the year; but for the chances of it coming up on that exact day (ie. you put a different combination in each day, or you buy it for one day only); you have to consider that you don`t want it to come up on just any day of the year, but this specific one. </font>

Iron_Ranger 09-14-2002 02:01 AM

So rigged its not even funny.

They could have alteast did it backwars, you know like 1-1-9 or 1-9-1. Sheesh.

Cloudbringer 09-14-2002 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
So rigged its not even funny.

They could have alteast did it backwars, you know like 1-1-9 or 1-9-1. Sheesh.

Iron Ranger, it's not rigged. The NY State Lottery commission will verify it for you, if you like. The way those numbers come up, it's virtually impossible to 'rig' it. They are blown around in a tumbler and when the slot opens air shoots a ball up. Pretty hard to pick which one it will be in advance. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ziroc 09-14-2002 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
So rigged its not even funny.

They could have alteast did it backwars, you know like 1-1-9 or 1-9-1. Sheesh.

Oh, come on. It was NOT rigged. The show is live, and they are all random. It was just luck.

Deathbringer 09-14-2002 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziroc:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Iron_Ranger:
So rigged its not even funny.

They could have alteast did it backwars, you know like 1-1-9 or 1-9-1. Sheesh.

Oh, come on. It was NOT rigged. The show is live, and they are all random. It was just luck.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="00cc99">How is the lottery done in the U.S? if it is one of those glass balls that suck up numbers then the other balls could have been made hevier. The same thing happened in Australia about 15 years ago (In that I mean it was rigged, not 9, 1, 1 numbers) That's why the lottery in Australia use different machines now.</font>

skywalker 09-14-2002 06:20 AM

Not that I believe that it is rigged, but it is possible to pick numbers by making some of the balls heavier than others. I'm not good with physics, but i think that if the balls come out the top, make the numbers you want lighter or if out the bottom, make them heavier.

Or make the pipe the balls come out of, smaller than the balls that you don't want to come out.

Just some options..y'know?

Mark

Moni 09-14-2002 06:23 AM

Anyone ever see the movie "Lucky Numbers" with John Travolta and Lisa Kudrow?
;)
Funny movie!

andrewas 09-14-2002 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LennonCook:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
What are the chances of 911 coming up today? 1000-1 The odds are the same every day.

The number of days in the year is irrelevant, why not the number of days in the month?

<font color="lightblue">The chances of it coming up on whatever day you put it in are 1000-1, yes; but if you want the exact date to come up, there are alot more considerations.

That combination has a 1000-1 chance of coming up on any day of the year; but for the chances of it coming up on that exact day (ie. you put a different combination in each day, or you buy it for one day only); you have to consider that you don`t want it to come up on just any day of the year, but this specific one. </font>
</font>[/QUOTE]Lennon, are we arguing statistics here or what?

Let me put it simply.

The number of draws in the year is irrelevant. The draws have no effect on each other - the chances do not alter depending on what the last draw was. If 10/9/02 had produced 911 the chances of 9/11/02 producing 911 would have been the same.

The odds of drawing 911 are the same on any date. Trust me on this. I used to do wargaming. I have experience when it comes to calculating odds on the fly.

Do your own experiments with 3D10 if you really want to.

Or program a computer to do it, since youd need at least 20000 rolls to get accurate results.

DJG 09-14-2002 02:55 PM

The chances of 9-1-1 coming up in the draw are slim. Because the ways that everyone is saying it is rigged means that if 9,1,1 are the only balls that can come up, 9 only has a one in three chance of coming first! That makes it harder. However, I suppose if it is the most light (grammar?) ball there it will co up quickest.....

NOTE: 9-11 can be interpreted as an American day of EMERGENCY
NOTE: 911 is what you dial in America if there is an EMERGENCY
Sorry if I'm being slow about that!

Lord Shield 09-14-2002 03:21 PM

pardon my bluntness but what a load of fuss over nothing. it was radnom, it was coincidence

chances are those numbers come up every day in some aspect or another. it's only because of the recent anniversary the numbers are more noticed I suspect


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