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Deathbringer 09-12-2002 12:31 PM

<font color="00cc99">Well I've noticed recently that my monitor has been making a really loud high-pitched noise. The noise is hard to explain but it sounds a little like that noise you sometimes get in your ears after someone yells in them.
Anyway, I am starting to worry. I've tested all of the connections and they're all fine. What could it be? Is my monitor going to blow up?

Also I have noticed that the noise is a lot louder when there is a lot of 'white' on the screen at once.</font>

MagiK 09-12-2002 12:38 PM

<font color="#cc9999"> The high pitched whine sometimes heard from CRT type displays (TV's or computer monitors) is usually caused by the flyback transformer. This component is made of metal sheets laminated together with copper wires coiled around parts of it. The lamanint (sticky stuff that holds it all together) some times dries out and some of the metal plates are thus loosened just a tiny bit, allowing magnetic fields to cause them to vibrate causing the high pitched squeel.

I got this explanation a million years ago when I was doing electrical engineering studies in the Navy [img]smile.gif[/img]

Umm forgot to mention, this is usually a harmless effect, except for the insanity it drives some people to [img]smile.gif[/img] And should not affect the performance of the monitor unless it gets seriously bad, to the point where the transformer falls apart.

Also forgot to mention, the flyback transformer provides the really high voltage deflection current....I think...geez now I've forgotten... *sigh* </font>

[ 09-12-2002, 12:40 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Megabot 09-12-2002 12:40 PM

<font color=FFFFFF>Darn mutch problems you have with that monitor Deathbringer if i was you i would send it to repair because it maby can be dangerus to sitt in front of it if it explode, i dont try to scare you and i have never heard about a monitor that have exploded only tv`s but be careful! [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

MagiK 09-12-2002 12:43 PM

<font color="#cc9999"> Not much chance of an explosion. Usually TV's that explode are sitting near a window. This happens when it is cold out side and the TV tubes are HOT. A very cold gust of air leaking around a window or seam can cause the tube to shatter and implode..then explode [img]smile.gif[/img] This happened to us when I was 8 or 9, luckily we were all far enough away that the glass didnt reach us...it was durring the TV show Flipper.....poor flipper whent BOOOOM! </font>

MagiK 09-12-2002 12:45 PM

<font color="#cc9999"> Yep, looked it up. The flyback transformer supplies the 20 -75 kilovolt deflection current that moves the electron beam back and forth accross the screen. [img]smile.gif[/img] More than anyone wanted to know I bet [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

Ziroc 09-12-2002 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
<font color="#cc9999"> The high pitched whine sometimes heard from CRT type displays (TV's or computer monitors) is usually caused by the flyback transformer. This component is made of metal sheets laminated together with copper wires coiled around parts of it. The lamanint (sticky stuff that holds it all together) some times dries out and some of the metal plates are thus loosened just a tiny bit, allowing magnetic fields to cause them to vibrate causing the high pitched squeel.

I got this explanation a million years ago when I was doing electrical engineering studies in the Navy [img]smile.gif[/img]

Umm forgot to mention, this is usually a harmless effect, except for the insanity it drives some people to [img]smile.gif[/img] And should not affect the performance of the monitor unless it gets seriously bad, to the point where the transformer falls apart.

Also forgot to mention, the flyback transformer provides the really high voltage deflection current....I think...geez now I've forgotten... *sigh* </font>

That is EXACTLY what it is! Not many people know this! But I need to add that this loosening can cause the fly-back to overcharge--you WILL know when this happens, you will hear a god-awful LOUD crackling sound, turn it off FAST before the circuit board in the Monitor (or a TV) gets overloaded as well.

I've installed new fly-backs in my 27 inch TV a few times (part costs around $20) compared to the $150 a repair shop charges--DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS yourself unless you know how to drain the charge out of the TV. tube, because those hold a few AMPS which kill VERY quickly, even if it's unplugged for a week, it still holds a charge.

But a friend of mine taught me this and I bought tools to do this.

Keep an ear to the sound--if the noise gets louder, it's getting worse, and you should take it in for 'primitive' repairs, or just buy a new one since the cost of repair shops charge as much as a new one would cost these days. :(

[ 09-12-2002, 04:09 PM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]

Ziroc 09-12-2002 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Megabot:
<font color=FFFFFF>Darn mutch problems you have with that monitor Deathbringer if i was you i would send it to repair because it maby can be dangerus to sitt in front of it if it explode, i dont try to scare you and i have never heard about a monitor that have exploded only tv`s but be careful! [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>
They don't explode, the implode. :D (Tubes implode because it's the TV tube is in a vacuum)

MagiK 09-12-2002 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziroc:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Megabot:
<font color=FFFFFF>Darn mutch problems you have with that monitor Deathbringer if i was you i would send it to repair because it maby can be dangerus to sitt in front of it if it explode, i dont try to scare you and i have never heard about a monitor that have exploded only tv`s but be careful! [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

They don't explode, the implode. :D (Tubes implode because it's the TV tube is in a vacuum)</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="#cc6699">Well technically [img]smile.gif[/img] they implode first but then they explode [img]smile.gif[/img] We had glass three feet away from the tv [img]smile.gif[/img] . I never heard of a flyback going that far out of whack [img]smile.gif[/img] .....usually I just replace the TV or monitor when it reaches the point where the sound is driving me insane [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Jeez Z. I didnt know you knew how to use a soldering iron [img]smile.gif[/img] kind of a lost art, now its easier to just buy a new item rather than fix it.</font>

[ 09-12-2002, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

Deathbringer 09-12-2002 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziroc:
I've installed new fly-backs in my 27 inch TV a few times (part costs around $20) compared to the $150 a repair shop charges--DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS yourself unless you know how to drain the charge out of the TV. tube, because those hold a few AMPS which kill VERY quickly, even if it's unplugged for a week, it still holds a charge.

But a friend of mine taught me this and I bought tools to do this.

Keep an ear to the sound--if the noise gets louder, it's getting worse, and you should take it in for 'primitive' repairs, or just buy a new one since the cost of repair shops charge as much as a new one would cost these days.

<font color="00cc99">Righty then, so it is nothing to worry about.. for now. That is good because I just had to falk out a massive repair job on my car engine and don't have much money left :S

I think I'll get a new monitor when I can afford one. *Nice 21-inch monitor appears in my head* :D [img]tongue.gif[/img]
thanks Magik, Ziroc and Megabot [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] </font>

MagiK 09-12-2002 10:31 PM

<font color="#ff6699">Don't turn your nose up at a good "used" 19" or 20" monitor. They are pretty plentiful here in the DC area ..I think they get them from failed businesses [img]smile.gif[/img] or perhaps when the boss decides to upgrade to that 50" wall mounted unit ;) Im using a "used" 19" Optiquest V95 on my secondary PC at home right now..got it for $150.</font>

Jeffi0 09-12-2002 11:08 PM

We had a TV and a light bulb explode during a series of frequent power surges. Destroyed the power supply on one of our computers too, but the surge protectors saved the other computers.

Ziroc 09-13-2002 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ziroc:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Megabot:
<font color=FFFFFF>Darn mutch problems you have with that monitor Deathbringer if i was you i would send it to repair because it maby can be dangerus to sitt in front of it if it explode, i dont try to scare you and i have never heard about a monitor that have exploded only tv`s but be careful! [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

They don't explode, the implode. :D (Tubes implode because it's the TV tube is in a vacuum)</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="#cc6699">Well technically [img]smile.gif[/img] they implode first but then they explode [img]smile.gif[/img] We had glass three feet away from the tv [img]smile.gif[/img] . I never heard of a flyback going that far out of whack [img]smile.gif[/img] .....usually I just replace the TV or monitor when it reaches the point where the sound is driving me insane [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Jeez Z. I didnt know you knew how to use a soldering iron [img]smile.gif[/img] kind of a lost art, now its easier to just buy a new item rather than fix it.</font>
</font>[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, I go to radio shack for my stuff! :D

The reason I wanted to keep this TV is I LOVE it's features and the way it'ss designed. but now, I just bought a 51 inch HDTV (Widescreen) Projection... Moving the old TV to the Computer room. (This TV is 13 years old) and has S-Video! Rare in those days!! I use Comp. Plugs now, on the HDTV. :D

Kormar the Wanderer 09-13-2002 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MagiK:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Ziroc:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Megabot:
<font color=FFFFFF>Darn mutch problems you have with that monitor Deathbringer if i was you i would send it to repair because it maby can be dangerus to sitt in front of it if it explode, i dont try to scare you and i have never heard about a monitor that have exploded only tv`s but be careful! [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>

They don't explode, the implode. :D (Tubes implode because it's the TV tube is in a vacuum)</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="#cc6699">Well technically [img]smile.gif[/img] they implode first but then they explode [img]smile.gif[/img] We had glass three feet away from the tv [img]smile.gif[/img] . I never heard of a flyback going that far out of whack [img]smile.gif[/img] .....usually I just replace the TV or monitor when it reaches the point where the sound is driving me insane [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Jeez Z. I didnt know you knew how to use a soldering iron [img]smile.gif[/img] kind of a lost art, now its easier to just buy a new item rather than fix it.</font>
</font>[/QUOTE]Good point...

LennonCook 09-13-2002 05:01 AM

<font color="lightblue">Just give it a good hard slap from the top: fixes almost anything; made my HTML work once :D </font>

Deathbringer 09-13-2002 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LennonCook:
<font color="lightblue">Just give it a good hard slap from the top: fixes almost anything; made my HTML work once :D </font>
<font color="00cc99">hhmm, if something in my monitor is loose, I don't think it will be a good idea to slap it ;)

lol, I have my suspicions about HTML. I think it's alive or something. Once when I was making a website for someone I had a table inside a table inside a table and the code was correct! - but it didn't work. After cursing at the HTML for quite some time. It decided to work all of a sudden.</font>

MagiK 09-13-2002 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziroc:
Oh yeah, I go to radio shack for my stuff! :D

The reason I wanted to keep this TV is I LOVE it's features and the way it'ss designed. but now, I just bought a 51 inch HDTV (Widescreen) Projection... Moving the old TV to the Computer room. (This TV is 13 years old) and has S-Video! Rare in those days!! I use Comp. Plugs now, on the HDTV. :D

<font color="#cc6699">Oh definately use a good surge protector on any expensive electronic device.
I have an RCA TV that is like your 13 year old model..I boutght it in 1992 and keep it around because I like it, even though I have a couple of newer models..Ive been looking at the HDTV models but won't have the room untill I buy my house.

As for soldering I fix everything from mixers, to an iron to telephones. I don't use the skill much any more but I still have the tools.</font>

Hexa 09-23-2002 11:36 AM

Well this can also be caused by two monitors standing to close to eachother ... the magnetic (i think) fields effect eachother!@


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