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Tiresius 06-07-2002 09:54 AM

I just started a monk rescently because i thought it would be cool to maraud arounds killing stuff with my hands. Before i even got out of the dungeon i had realized that minsc was killing nothing, just taking my experience. I kicked him out shortly after and decided to go solo. I am currently in chapter two and have just maxed my experience...IN CHAPTER TWO. i thought that was incredible so i got the cap remover (im level 24 now). I feel like i am invincible... i thought i would test out my new found arrogance on Firkrag (or however you spell that). I walked down there (after beating the hell out the adam golems) and smacked that red dragon around the place. I had a critical hit of 79! after i stuck my foot up what i thought was the most difficult fight in BGII i had only accumulated 7 damage. well anyways...i have two questions.

1) the description only lists bonuses up to level 20 because that is the cap. with the cap remover will i eventually get more bonuses (for example +4 fists) or will i continue to just get the 3% magic resistance, THAC0 bonuses, etc. per level, or will i get no bonuses at all?

2) Has anyone else had as much luck with a monk as i have or did i just somehow get a supermonk by mistake?

andrewas 06-07-2002 10:39 AM

A level 40 monk (The max with a safe cap remover) will breeze through the game, having problems only with the likes of kangaxx. And we all know how to take on kangaxx. He will start to run into difficulties when in ToB, but it should still be possible.

Sir Exxon 06-07-2002 12:21 PM

<font color="gold">WELCOME TO IW! [img]graemlins/happywave.gif[/img]

1. No, you will just continue leveling up, with the same added bonuses as you get when leveling up under lvl 20. You will get special abilities in ToB. ;)

2. Hard to tell. [img]smile.gif[/img] I've had good Monks, but noone as good as yours. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

andrewas 06-07-2002 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
<font color="gold"> will just continue leveling up, with the same added bonuses as you get when leveling up under lvl 20. You will get special abilities in ToB. ;) </font>
Actualy you will stop getting Magic resistance bonuses at a certain point (85% or thereabouts) and the AC bonus slows down after a while as well.

EDIT: I hate HTML and UBB

[ 06-07-2002, 12:46 PM: Message edited by: andrewas ]

Sir Exxon 06-07-2002 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by andrewas:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
<font color="gold"> will just continue leveling up, with the same added bonuses as you get when leveling up under lvl 20. You will get special abilities in ToB. ;) </font>

EDIT: I hate HTML and UBB</font>[/QUOTE]<font color="gold">LOL. [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Anyway, I wasnt aware of that. Thanks for clearing it out. [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

Tiresius 06-07-2002 03:15 PM

Thanks for the information but who is kangaxx? i've played the game through several times and am unfamiliar with this character. Is it in ToB? oh wait...does he involve lichs? I remember with my other game i would run and hide the moment a lich came in sight. but my monk had proven himself the be immune to everything they can throw at me. does this kangaxx person have anything to do with this "golden torso" i found earlier today?

Sir Exxon 06-07-2002 03:22 PM

<font color="gold">Correct, Tiresius! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Kangaxx is a (Demi-)Lich, and a real powerful one. He is splitted up in two pieces, his arms/legs and his Torso. Now, as you have found the torso, only the arms/legs remains.
I'm not gonna give you the exact location, but a tip: do the Unseeing Eye-quest... ;) </font>

Tiresius 06-07-2002 03:31 PM

Excellent! I was headed to that quest next anyways. now i have three more questions.

1) Am i gonna be able to kill this demi-lich? i have +3 fists, massive THAC0 and descent AC (-8) and i easily killed both dragons, is he much harder than them?

2) What do i get from killing him (if i can)?

3) Since i stopped getting saving throws bonuses and such, i was wondering if when i transfer to ToB will i get the level up bonuses? all i get for lvl up is hit points and worthless skill points that i never use anyway. will my saving throws stay the same when i convert or will it acknowledge that i am lvl 40 and adjust my bonuses accordingly?

andrewas 06-07-2002 03:38 PM

1)kangaxx *cannot* be killed by a solo fighter without special equipment. Protection from Undead can do it, or Protection from Magic. Protection from Abjuration as well, but you need a mage for that one. Monks natural magic resistance is no help since imprisonment bypasses it. And demi-liches get infinite imprisonment.

Note - do not use protection from undead on kangaxxes first incarnation. wait for the second.

As i said, easy when you have the right stuff.

[EDIT - its my day for stupid mistakes it seems. Demi-liches are immune to +3 weapons and below. Youll either need to level up to get +4 fists (level 25 IIRC, dont know if itll work w/o ToB) or youll need to get a +4 weapon and put up with the monks crap weapon profs]

2) Ring of Gaxx - awesome regen, +2 AC, +2 saves. Essential item for a soloer.

3) You wont get any advantage until you level up, so make sure you switch to ToB before you make your last level up.

[ 06-07-2002, 03:41 PM: Message edited by: andrewas ]

Thelonious Sphere 06-07-2002 03:55 PM

I had a monk, I called him Thelonious Sphere (You have to be Jazz lover to undestand the joke), hence my nick.

I really liked him, though I never got to that kind of damage, but mine was just level 18 when I finished the game my first and thus far only time.
Mean fighter, nice fists, -something thac0 and -8 AC (with proper rings and cloak). Although I admit I just gave the Dragon my cash, since I wasn't going to use it anyway (hey, I finished the game the same day...).

I have to play again, and fight as much as I can, to max out the game...

Tiresius 06-07-2002 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Thelonious Sphere:
I had a monk, I called him Thelonious Sphere
Lol... thats genius. You ever listen to Horace Silver or Chuck Corea? I play the keyboard in a Jazz Combo...Nevermind.

I will inform everyone if when i reach lvl 25 i get +4 fists or not (i doubt it though) I guess once again i will be defeated by the lichs.

Tiresius 06-07-2002 08:52 PM

well...lvl 27 and no +4 fists. I have gotten weapon points at lvl 24 and have 93 magic resist but no magor bonuses. Oh well.

Thelonious Sphere 06-08-2002 03:59 AM

Chick Corea is one of my favs.
I also play Jazz keys.

Check out Art Tatum and Oscar Peterson. You will be blown away.

danzibr 06-08-2002 09:24 AM

I really wanted a Monk, but funny stuff happened. I went solo with a regular fighter and got up to lvl 30, about that time I wanted to take in a Monk to help me out later, and I didn't want to restart. I downloaded the high lvl thing and put it in my override folder, but it messed up my Monk when I tried to make one. My Monk's AC on lvl 7 was -4 and he has 1 HP every time. Should I just download the lvl things again?

danzibr 06-08-2002 09:28 AM

And instead of making a new topic, I'll put it here ('cause hopefully everyone will respond); what's the URL to the patch that fixes Fighters' Grandmastery for SoA? And the Item Creator I downloaded doesn't work, any solutions?

Sir Exxon 06-08-2002 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by danzibr:
And instead of making a new topic, I'll put it here ('cause hopefully everyone will respond); what's the URL to the patch that fixes Fighters' Grandmastery for SoA? And the Item Creator I downloaded doesn't work, any solutions?
<font color="gold">1. Appearently, it is located somewhere at Baldurdash. ;)

2. I assume you downloaded it at TeamBG? If so, ask at the forum there. They are all very skilled with editing/creating, etc there. ;) </font>

danzibr 06-08-2002 11:44 AM

I went to Baldurdash and found Grandmastery Patch thingy, and some other awesome stuff. [img]smile.gif[/img] I'll just download it again and see what happens, then I'll ask them.

kanri 06-08-2002 12:09 PM

im on the scond chapter with a fighter and i am wondering is there any monk npcs that can join my party. it whould be cool to have a guy kill a dragon with his bare hands (lol). if you could tell me where one is that would be great. [img]graemlins/knightsmile.gif[/img]

daan 06-08-2002 12:28 PM

There are no Monk-NPC's ...
well .. maybe if you have ToB installed with the Ascension MoD .. but that's not really an NPC .. and im not spoiling that.

Anywayz .. there are no Monk NPC's , that can truly be in your party in both SoA and TOB

Tiresius 06-08-2002 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kanri:
it whould be cool to have a guy kill a dragon with his bare hands
well you could use jaheria and kill it with you BEAR hands. lol

Sorry that was lame.


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