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K T Ong 08-19-2002 06:21 AM

...what do you think will happen?

johnny 08-19-2002 06:27 AM

I don't know why, but i don't think there will be a nucleair holocoust. In a way it's good these things are here, otherwise there probably already would have been some other big war.

Bokken 08-19-2002 11:18 PM

I'll most likely be sitting in front of my computer screen wondering what I'll be doing in the next 1 or 2 hundred years...hehe

The.Relic 08-19-2002 11:27 PM

I chose other in the sense that I don't think any of the options will wipe out the human race in the next 1 or 2 hundred years. But I can see a possibility that all of the options could occur in a limited degree except for a "Golden Age", that I cannot see happening.

Evil Al 08-19-2002 11:35 PM

Other. Hopefully the secong coming but i dunno. Only Jesus could tell you that, hold on i'll ask him... Now where'd I put my cell phone?

Leonis 08-19-2002 11:43 PM

"In the year 2202, following at time known as 'The 100 year Internet Flame War' (2003-2109) and 'The 89 year Civil Enlightenment of the New Technorevolution [The Great Destruction]' (2110-2201), shall begin a new phase in human history. It shall be known as 'A New Phase In Human History' or possible 'Alternate Plan B' and shall be defined by the practice of 'democrisis' - i.e: whenever there is a crisis all humans shall run around in circles crying 'what do I do? what do I do?' before deciding to do absolutely nothing.
Major crisis' will follow long periods of inactivity which shall lead human evolution to disregard the need for a head.
'Humans' or 'Bodmans' as they shal be known, will be arms, legs and torsos wandering the earth and bumping into each other.

Sometime around the year 2367 (or 2475-9384) all Bodmans will have wandered together to the edge of the earth. There they shall fall off and be devoured buy the Daemons that live between earth and Las Vegans.
And that, as they say, is that"

- Old Ironworks Prophesy (possibly constructed by The Lord of Alcohol in 1997, or by Sigmund Freud in the 4th Dimension)[Possibly untrue, but it's in the future...]{Also possibly a rejected Star Trek 11 movie sub plot, I'm really not sure, I can't keep track of it all these days}

whacky 08-20-2002 12:00 AM

I dont care what all others say(no offence) but about 200 years in the future, i, whacky the insane shall be ruling the world!

K T Ong 08-20-2002 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leonis:
"In the year 2202, following at time known as 'The 100 year Internet Flame War' (2003-2109) and 'The 89 year Civil Enlightenment of the New Technorevolution [The Great Destruction]' (2110-2201), shall begin a new phase in human history. It shall be known as 'A New Phase In Human History' or possible 'Alternate Plan B' and shall be defined by the practice of 'democrisis' - i.e: whenever there is a crisis all humans shall run around in circles crying 'what do I do? what do I do?' before deciding to do absolutely nothing.
Major crisis' will follow long periods of inactivity which shall lead human evolution to disregard the need for a head.
'Humans' or 'Bodmans' as they shal be known, will be arms, legs and torsos wandering the earth and bumping into each other.

Sometime around the year 2367 (or 2475-9384) all Bodmans will have wandered together to the edge of the earth. There they shall fall off and be devoured buy the Daemons that live between earth and Las Vegans.
And that, as they say, is that"

And then the orcs will take over, and meanwhile the elves and dwarves will be engaged in a great battle... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Angelouss 08-20-2002 01:16 AM

nanotechlogy will solve the worlds problems

Lifetime 08-20-2002 02:42 AM

Humanity will never put aside its squabbles, no matter what technology or what new religion or what new ideology rears its head. Its been done before, tried before, and it has never worked.
Read George Orwell's 1984 for example..
The communists tried to bring about a Golden Age
Look where that got them..
There will always be a winner and a loser, a superior and an inferior. The only thing that matters is who, and from whose perspective you're looking at it from. 200 years from now China could very well be the next world Superpower, taking over the USA in pure economic domination alone. That would be their Golden Age. 2000 years ago Romans brought about their own Golden Age with fire and steel as the Greeks bowed out of history. 150 years ago Britain had the largest empire ever seen on Earth. Things change, but the same old players always remain.

Moni 08-20-2002 02:45 AM

I think the planet will one day just shake us all off like a flea on a dog's back. :D

The Hierophant 08-20-2002 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lifetime:
Humanity will never put aside its squabbles, no matter what technology or what new religion or what new ideology rears its head. Its been done before, tried before, and it has never worked.
Read George Orwell's 1984 for example..
The communists tried to bring about a Golden Age
Look where that got them..
There will always be a winner and a loser, a superior and an inferior. The only thing that matters is who, and from whose perspective you're looking at it from. 200 years from now China could very well be the next world Superpower, taking over the USA in pure economic domination alone. That would be their Golden Age. 2000 years ago Romans brought about their own Golden Age with fire and steel as the Greeks bowed out of history. 150 years ago Britain had the largest empire ever seen on Earth. Things change, but the same old players always remain.

Oh LORD!!! CAN I GET AN AMENNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!?????
Heh heh, well said lad.

K T Ong 08-20-2002 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lifetime:
200 years from now China could very well be the next world Superpower, taking over the USA in pure economic domination alone. That would be their Golden Age.
And then everyone will hate China -- just as everyone hates the USA today... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Moni 08-20-2002 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by K T Ong:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Lifetime:
200 years from now China could very well be the next world Superpower, taking over the USA in pure economic domination alone. That would be their Golden Age.

And then everyone will hate China -- just as everyone hates the USA today... [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Mankind has to be above that mentality by then!!!!!!!!!

Jorath Calar 08-20-2002 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moni:
I think the planet will one day just shake us all off like a flea on a dog's back. :D
yep, we are a "surface nuisance"... [img]smile.gif[/img]

K T Ong 08-20-2002 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moni:
NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
Mankind has to be above that mentality by then!!!!!!!!!

It had better be, or else...

/)eathKiller 08-20-2002 08:40 AM

well I don't know about the rest of you, but I plan to still be alive 200 years from now, so here's what I predict:

Mankind will reip the benefiets of preserving human heads in jars, and nuclear winter and global warming will cancel eachother out. OH and santa clause will turn into a giant evil killer robot, while the average virgin's life expectency will drop to 15 minutes in this brave new world. It'll be like Lexx mixed with futurama with a dash of star trek and some babylon 5 while i'm in a good mood... but there won't be aliens, just interdimensional visitors.

and yes... Stelone will make another Rocky... 10 more to be precise...

Lifetime 08-20-2002 08:47 AM

Well 3000 years of human civilisation hasnt changed anything. I dont see what an additional 200 years will change. Throughout human history the world has been constantly improved, new things constantly discovered, new wonders revealed every day, and it is true that the average standard of living today is a lot higher than it was 200 years ago. But is human life itself any one whit better since its inception? Its the same system, but with prettier dressing. You'd think that if humanity was to one day unite, they would have done it when the first man landed on the moon. Or when electricity was harnessed. Or when the Wright brothers invented the aeroplane. When the Romans conquered much of what is today the modern world. When Alexander the Great marched across continents. Every one of these events was earthshaking in its own time. None of them united the world for any length of time. What could possibly happen in the future that would proportionately eclipse them all in terms of significance?
Nuclear weapons? Splitting the atom? Nanotechnology? Nuclear Fusion? Interstellar Colonisation? Abolition of War? The ability to prolong and restore life? The elimination of all disease and illness?
The human condition is such that we'll find newer and newer ways to squabble and fight even if the world itself were given to us on a silver platter. We'd just find other ways to wage war. Other ways to compete. No matter how much we accomplish, the trouble lies inherent in men itself, not the tools that he creates. Unless one day we find the way to change the nature of men beyond all recognition, we'll be locked in this cycle forever. We've perfected the art of civilisation and competition through 2000 years of progress. It is perfect in that it can never be altered, never be changed, the model by which it runs is always the same, just that the players are different. It would take a drastic step indeed to change the nature of human society as it has existed throughout the ages.

The.Relic 08-20-2002 09:05 AM

I am going to have to take issue with the statement that "everyone hates the USA today". That is simply not true. While many may hate us, and or disagree with our policies and influence in the world community, we are still the worlds largest contributor to international aid and relief programs and like us or not, they happily accept our financial contributions to their national relief if nothing else. So just maybe, they do in fact, like us, at least for that, maybe just the teensiest, weenciest little bit. Maybe some countries do hate us, after all, no country in the world ever wants to feel subordinated to another, but hey, how many countries can you name who gladly give hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to countries that they know despise them and will probably and have used portions of that aid against us to kill our troops, often peace keeping and our civilians overseas? And yet knowing they despise us, and may attack and kill our own using the aid we give, we still give them the aid anyway, because we care about humanity and want to ease suffering when we can. Maybe we are as terrible as some think, but at least in some respects it is a good thing we are here.

[ 08-20-2002, 10:09 AM: Message edited by: The.Relic ]

WhiteKnightBRB 08-20-2002 09:53 AM

I Think The Entire World will be destroyed Because the entire human race will go to war over the last of our earths limited supplies and then they start throwing nukes at each other

WhiteKnightBRB 08-20-2002 09:57 AM

I think we should build a Great star ship or a giant ring around the Earths Atmosphere to destroy Meteors or other visitors from outer space

andrewas 08-20-2002 02:01 PM

HUmanity will never unite till forced.

Independence Day in other words. Maybe after we blow the alien mothership to pieces we can build a truly civilised society where every nation on earth shares in technology and resources equally. Doubt it though.

Feanor 08-20-2002 02:07 PM

i'm all for the Atlanteans!
they're ph4t tyt3!! :D

Rokenn 08-20-2002 03:35 PM

Personally I agree with what Vernor Vinge has been saying. That we are headed for a technological singularity and that unless we exterminate ourselves in the next 30 some odd years things are going to change so profoundly that we have no way of projecting what will happen after the 'singularity'. Here is an article he wrote about 10 years ago talking about this:
The Coming Technological Singularity

johnny 08-20-2002 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by andrewas:
HUmanity will never unite till forced.

Independence Day in other words. Maybe after we blow the alien mothership to pieces we can build a truly civilised society where every nation on earth shares in technology and resources equally. Doubt it though.

Maybe for a short while, but humans will always be humans. Lust for power, money, and all these other things will eventually take the upperhand again

Rokenn 08-20-2002 04:01 PM

Here is an interesting article I came across that ties in with the Vinge paper:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/10.09/vision.html

It looks like a 'bionic eye' is not too far off in the future. Pretty soon everyone may be sporting borg-like super eyes, lol.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 08-20-2002 04:06 PM

I think...ah well, it doesnt matter what *I* think; read "Revalations" in the Bible. That predicts a lota stuff.

andrewas 08-20-2002 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
I think...ah well, it doesnt matter what *I* think; read "Revalations" in the Bible. That predicts a lota stuff.
Maybe with hindsight it does, but Ive never seen an actual prediction made with the "Bible Code" or any other interpretation of any religious text. Ever.

Theres only one thing that will force humanity to unite in the long term, and that would be conflict with something from outside. Possibly, after such a conflict, humanity would end up as one "nation" among others, but thats only moving the problem up a notch. The only thing that could unite this galactic society would be a conflict with something outside that.

Thus it has been since the days of warring villages millenia ago. Thus it always will be.

And I am well aware that the chances of interstellar conflict of any level is well below any chance you care to name.

Tanoch Thas'ala 08-20-2002 06:06 PM

In the year 2100 or even 2200, nothing will have changed much. I mean what has really changed since 1900 and 2000? But what has changed since the late 1800s and 1900s? So I think by the time 2700-3000 rolls around, we'll start seeing big changes..

SomeGuy 08-20-2002 06:15 PM

I will be writing stories for Forgotten Realms.(hopefully) We will have grown to be in piece and harmony.There is no more stealing,murdering,gambling,raping,or any other things against the law.Welcome to Tele tubbie land. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

K T Ong 08-20-2002 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WhiteKnightBRB:
I Think The Entire World will be destroyed Because the entire human race will go to war over the last of our earths limited supplies and then they start throwing nukes at each other
Greetings, WhiteKnight. Hope you'll like it here at Ironworks. [img]smile.gif[/img]

A bit pessimistic what you said -- still, it can't be dismissed out of hand as unlikely... :(


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