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Smeagol II 07-08-2002 01:01 PM

I was just wondering how people who live in countries that used to be part of the British Empire feel towards the British. I was especially interested in the attitudes of people living in India or Pakistan as we were largely responsible for the partition. I know it is unlikely that there is anyone on this forum that is from that part of the world but maybe there are some Muslims or Hindus (even Sihks) who can help me out.
Cheers

[ 07-08-2002, 01:02 PM: Message edited by: Smeagol II ]

Donut 07-08-2002 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Smeagol II:
I was just wondering how people who live in countries that used to be part of the British Empire feel towards the British. I was especially interested in the attitudes of people living in India or Pakistan as we were largely responsible for the partition. I know it is unlikely that there is anyone on this forum that is from that part of the world but maybe there are some Muslims or Hindus (even Sihks) who can help me out.
Cheers

I find your reappearence at this precise moment in time to be er.. interesting. :D

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 01:05 PM

...Well Im bristish... so does that make ME part of what used to be the British empire? and I live in Britain too hehe, sorry, couldnt resist. seriosly, it WOULD be interesting.

[img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/happyteeth.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/evillaughter1.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img]

Sir Goulum 07-08-2002 01:07 PM

<font color=Orange>Canada......used to be a part of the British Empire......hell, we might as well still be! We still have the queen on the back of our coins!</font>

Rimjaw 07-08-2002 01:09 PM

I'm from Singapore, former British Colony as well. :D

slackerboy 07-08-2002 01:28 PM

i'm from america, and we like you just fine

Sir Goulum 07-08-2002 01:30 PM

<font color=Orange>I wonder how many countries are not former British Colonies....</font>

Leonis 07-08-2002 01:34 PM

We love you England! Take us back please! How could we ever desert you?
(Aussie - but that was obvious)

Leonis 07-08-2002 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
<font color=Orange>I wonder how many countries are not former British Colonies....</font>
2.
Uzbekistan and Iceland.

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 01:47 PM

Dont forget America... they delcared Independance remember? ;)

Sir Goulum 07-08-2002 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
Dont forget America... they delcared Independance remember? ;)
<Font color=Orange>And Britain booted Canada out of 'Colony Status'</font>

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 01:54 PM

*shakes his head* baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Britain ;) lol, well, you cant blame *ME* for my countries stupid mistakes, er goverments... er lol.

Sir Goulum 07-08-2002 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
*shakes his head* baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad Britain ;) lol, well, you cant blame *ME* for my countries stupid mistakes, er goverments... er lol.
<font color=Orange>It was actually quite smart of them....we were costing more money to run than we were making Britain :D </font>

johnny 07-08-2002 01:59 PM

I am from Pakistan and i think you British stink at playing football ! :D

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 02:01 PM

true... irronic how WE taught you the game, and cricket, and still you beat us... personally, I think its lack of trainig on our teams part, but hey...

johnny 07-08-2002 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
true... irronic how WE taught you the game, and cricket, and still you beat us... personally, I think its lack of trainig on our teams part, but hey...
Erm CD, it's me, Johnny...... remember ? I'm as Dutch as they come and i don't know jack about Pakistan. I'm just being me again ! :D

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 02:11 PM

er ....right... sprry, my wits have gone begging... ;) :D [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh3.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/evillaughter1.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/evillaughter2.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/happyteeth.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Deathbringer 07-08-2002 02:20 PM

I'm from Australia and I don't think that anyone truly hates Britian, or its people. You will be suprised to hear that a lot of assies admire Britian.

Oh and my mates and I are big fans of the premier league! GO LIVERPOOL!

[ 07-08-2002, 02:21 PM: Message edited by: Deathbringer ]

johnny 07-08-2002 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathbringer:
I'm from Australia and I don't think that anyone truly hates Britian, or its people. You will be suprised to hear that a lot of assies admire Britian.

Oh and my mates and I are big fans of the premier league! GO LIVERPOOL!

Liverpool ????????? :D Dude, i feel sooooo sorry for you, i really do ! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 02:36 PM

me too... oh well, he'll learn... when they lose too often.. he'll learn. *long suffering sigh*

RudeDawg 07-08-2002 02:38 PM

Another American chiming in!

I don't know anyone who thinks badly about the British. Most folks I've met from Britain, IRL and online, seem to be the best-behaved, nicest, politest folks I've ever met. [img]smile.gif[/img] I couldn't be offended by them, even if I tried.

Keep up the good works. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Deathbringer 07-08-2002 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deathbringer:
I'm from Australia and I don't think that anyone truly hates Britian, or its people. You will be suprised to hear that a lot of assies admire Britian.

Oh and my mates and I are big fans of the premier league! GO LIVERPOOL!

Liverpool ????????? :D Dude, i feel sooooo sorry for you, i really do ! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Allright yeah yeah rub it in, Liverpool came second... let me guess you go for Arsenal?

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 02:44 PM

you've never seen british football fans then... they are... well, the vandles anyway... enough said...

Deathbringer 07-08-2002 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
me too... oh well, he'll learn... when they lose too often.. he'll learn. *long suffering sigh*
Hey what the?? Was that directed toward my GO LIVERPOOL remark [img]smile.gif[/img]

Everyone is ganging up on Liverpool nnnoooooo!! I'll have the last laugh when Liverpool raise the trophy next season!

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-08-2002 02:49 PM

dont worry tehy wont ;) and even if they do, they wont keep it... they never do, *any* of them... in fact, Ive given up with english football coz they're all so hopeless...

johnny 07-08-2002 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathbringer:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deathbringer:
I'm from Australia and I don't think that anyone truly hates Britian, or its people. You will be suprised to hear that a lot of assies admire Britian.

Oh and my mates and I are big fans of the premier league! GO LIVERPOOL!

Liverpool ????????? :D Dude, i feel sooooo sorry for you, i really do ! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Allright yeah yeah rub it in, Liverpool came second... let me guess you go for Arsenal?</font>[/QUOTE]Don't insult me dude ! :D Nope, West Ham overhere ! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

johnny 07-08-2002 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RudeDawg:
Another American chiming in!

I don't know anyone who thinks badly about the British. Most folks I've met from Britain, IRL and online, seem to be the best-behaved, nicest, politest folks I've ever met. [img]smile.gif[/img] I couldn't be offended by them, even if I tried.

Keep up the good works. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

I can see you've never been to a Millwall game ! :D

Deathbringer 07-08-2002 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deathbringer:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Deathbringer:
I'm from Australia and I don't think that anyone truly hates Britian, or its people. You will be suprised to hear that a lot of assies admire Britian.

Oh and my mates and I are big fans of the premier league! GO LIVERPOOL!

Liverpool ????????? :D Dude, i feel sooooo sorry for you, i really do ! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Allright yeah yeah rub it in, Liverpool came second... let me guess you go for Arsenal?</font>[/QUOTE]Don't insult me dude ! :D Nope, West Ham overhere ! [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Ah excellent! West Ham are cool. My family support them, I had to be different. I'm glad you don't go for Arsenal, cause if ya did, I would've had to come and hunt you down ;)

johnny 07-08-2002 03:15 PM

Deathbringer, i believe i'm the only Hammer around here though, most of the other Brits are all Arsenal fans.

Deathbringer 07-08-2002 03:19 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
Deathbringer, i believe i'm the only Hammer around here though, most of the other Brits are all Arsenal fans.
MOST of em? *ducks*

K T Ong 07-08-2002 07:59 PM

To put it somewhat mildly, I honestly don't like the Brits much as a whole after reading about what they did to us Chinese in the 19th Century -- not to mention what they did to much of the rest of the world, too.

That much said, I do think David Beckham is handsome.

Donut 07-09-2002 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Deathbringer:
Ah excellent! West Ham are cool. My family support them, I had to be different. I'm glad you don't go for Arsenal, cause if ya did, I would've had to come and hunt you down ;)
You don't need to hunt. I'm here.!!!

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-09-2002 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by K T Ong:
To put it somewhat mildly, I honestly don't like the Brits much as a whole after reading about what they did to us Chinese in the 19th Century -- not to mention what they did to much of the rest of the world, too.

That much said, I do think David Beckham is handsome.

Hey dont judge a race by their actions in the past. I'm English, and I personally am sickened by what 'my people' have done in the past... not to be insulting, Im sure that MANY ppl could say the same about the chinese... Tibet springs to mind, not that Im making ANY accusations... let begones be bygones, and judge ppl by their actions and intentions... NOT their race.

caleb 07-09-2002 06:55 AM

KT do you have a grudge against the mongolians too [img]graemlins/question.gif[/img]

Kakero 07-09-2002 06:56 AM

Deathbringer, perhaps you should sing "you'll never walk alone". that will show them! :D

Silver Cheetah 07-09-2002 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RudeDawg:
Another American chiming in!

I don't know anyone who thinks badly about the British. Most folks I've met from Britain, IRL and online, seem to be the best-behaved, nicest, politest folks I've ever met. [img]smile.gif[/img] I couldn't be offended by them, even if I tried.

Keep up the good works. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

Is that so? ..... :D

[ 07-09-2002, 08:49 AM: Message edited by: Silver Cheetah ]

Mouse 07-09-2002 08:56 AM

Totally wierd [img]graemlins/crazyeyes.gif[/img]

Little did I suspect that a thread about Decolonisation could go so far off topic that the relative merits of minor London football teams would become entangled in it.

Shame really, I was quite looking forward to reading how former colonial countries regarded their erstwhile masters. Any chance we could get this back on topic?

K T Ong 07-09-2002 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by caleb:
KT do you have a grudge against the mongolians too [img]graemlins/question.gif[/img]
You bet. Genghis Khan reputedly killed a few million Han Chinese.

K T Ong 07-09-2002 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
Hey dont judge a race by their actions in the past. I'm English, and I personally am sickened by what 'my people' have done in the past... not to be insulting, Im sure that MANY ppl could say the same about the chinese... Tibet springs to mind, not that Im making ANY accusations... let begones be bygones, and judge ppl by their actions and intentions... NOT their race.
Hey, I'm prepared to acknowledge certain good points about the Brits, aren't I? :rolleyes:

There are actually quite a few major figures in modern English history for whom I have great respect -- John Ruskin, Oscar Wilde, Joseph Needham, Christmas Humphreys, Ralph Vaughan Williams, (Albert Schweitzer?)... But nevertheless, I just don't feel good as a Chinese when I read of what happened in the 19th Century. Hey, don't blame me, I'm human.

Ex-masters? Sorry, I've got too much pride.

As for Tibet, several centuries ago the Manchus conquered China -- and Tibet. Thus Tibet became part of the Chinese Empire through the agency of the Manchus, not the Chinese.

[ 07-09-2002, 10:31 AM: Message edited by: K T Ong ]

Calaethis Dragonsbane 07-09-2002 10:56 AM

Tibet was the first example to spring to mind, The chinese are no 'saints' either, but then niether is the british. ALl Im saying is dont pre-judge ppl coz of their race... I hate this old saying but it fits in well here; 'Dont judge a book by its cover'... I *really* hate old sayings... anyway, lets not get inot an arugment about this ok?


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