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Sir Goulum 06-09-2002 12:29 PM

<font color=Orange>Is it real or is it fake?
What do you think?

I think it is quite real. I just do!</font>

Triconan 06-09-2002 12:40 PM

"SOB", I know it's real, it happened to my uncle Billy Bob after he ate 5 cans of beans.

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Talthyr Malkaviel 06-09-2002 12:43 PM

Yes, I believe in it wholeheartedly.
Hey look, is that the Tooth Fairy pulling one of Santa's teeth, wow, she's got quite the dentistry now.. I hear she gets such customers as the Boogeyman and umm, some other imaginary creatures. ;)
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SomeGuy 06-09-2002 12:46 PM

You could have a gave a definition or what it is Sir Goulem.Does it mean people getting gas? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 06-09-2002, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: SomeGuy ]

Triconan 06-09-2002 12:49 PM

Doesn't it mean people blowing up for no reason?

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Lord Shield 06-09-2002 12:59 PM

it's a bit of a muyth to be honest. Each case of people bursting into flames for no apparent reason has been explained in the past

an example:
Spon Com

sageridder 06-09-2002 01:01 PM

Human wick effect seems more likely to me.The victim is either intoxicated,asleep,and or is overcome by the smoke and fumes after the ignition source has started the fire.The bodies own fat fuels the fire but dosn't create a hot enough flame to burn the whole place down.The discovery channel actually had a very interesting show on this just recently.

Lord Shield 06-09-2002 01:24 PM

i used to read a fair amount on it years back.

one case involved a guy that had 2 uranium-based watches that increased his internal temperature

another slept too close to a fire butb actually had spilt some alcohol on himself

so the "spontaneous" nature of it is pretty non-existent

Sir Goulum 06-09-2002 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Shield:
i used to read a fair amount on it years back.

one case involved a guy that had 2 uranium-based watches that increased his internal temperature

another slept too close to a fire butb actually had spilt some alcohol on himself

so the "spontaneous" nature of it is pretty non-existent

<font color=Orange>But there is unexplained cases such as 'The Cinder Lady'. Noones figured out what happend to her. Her body was in ashes except for a foot and a shoe, her chair was destroyed, but nothing else was touched, except for some smoke stains. Scary scary.</font>

skywalker 06-09-2002 02:42 PM

Whoa! Is it getting HOT in here, or is it just me? :D

Mark

Sir Goulum 06-09-2002 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by skywalker:
Whoa! Is it getting HOT in here, or is it just me? :D

Mark

<font color=Orange>I think its just my dragons :D . But I am still believin in it!</font>

Moni 06-09-2002 04:32 PM

I saw an in depth program on the subject a few months ago and the supporters of the phenomenon say they have discovered a bacteria in human intestines that creates spontaenously combustible gasses and when the bacteria becomes overpopulated....well...BOOM! They credited this bacteria as the cause for SC.

That theory would certainly explain the case of the British woman who started shooting flames out of her mouth as she sat at the table with her husband and another relative, spooking the bejesus out of them as she died right there in front of them, reduced to little more than a pile of ashes and charred bones.

I am one of those people who usually has to see something to believe it but I don't carry a fire extinguisher around with me "just in case somebody combusts nearby".
Wouldn't it suck if my proof came in the form of flames flying out my own mouth lol. That would hurt!

[ 06-09-2002, 09:31 PM: Message edited by: Moni ]

Sir Goulum 06-09-2002 04:35 PM

<font color=Orange>Moni, that theory is probably the best one of all. And then its added with the 'Human Wick Effect' it is the Human Compustion!</font>

lroyo 06-10-2002 01:23 AM

I read a book on Spontaneous Human Combustion once. It really is quite a strange phenomenon, and I'm really not sure whether it's real or not. I guess it's the only way that we can explain some strange deaths so I guess until we come up with a better theory, it will have to do!

Avi.

Scholarcs 06-10-2002 02:06 AM

Well I am not about to believe in it until I combust myself. :eek:

Sir Goulum 06-10-2002 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scholarcs:
Well I am not about to believe in it until I combust myself. :eek:
<font color=Orange>Youd be dead lol!</font>

Sir Kenyth 06-12-2002 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Lord Shield:
i used to read a fair amount on it years back.

one case involved a guy that had 2 uranium-based watches that increased his internal temperature

another slept too close to a fire butb actually had spilt some alcohol on himself

so the "spontaneous" nature of it is pretty non-existent

<font color=Orange>But there is unexplained cases such as 'The Cinder Lady'. Noones figured out what happend to her. Her body was in ashes except for a foot and a shoe, her chair was destroyed, but nothing else was touched, except for some smoke stains. Scary scary.</font></font>[/QUOTE]SHC has been successfully recreated using animal carcasses. It is a wick effect of the clothing and resulting cinders. Oil flames burn quite hot, but very small. The fat is rendered and the water escapes while the fat burns. A pig carcass, with similar body fat content to humans, was reduced to cinders bone and all. This was done in a room with common household items with the carcass laying on a mattress. It was covered with a cotton sheet and used 1 cup of grain alchohol for an accellerant. The room remained intact. Items placed high were partially melted by accumulated heat, but unburned. Most of the mattress along with the bottom part of the pigs legs remained intact. I watched this experiment on TV. That's it!

Sir Goulum 06-12-2002 06:14 PM

<font color=orange>Well, if you say so Sir Kenyth!</font>


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