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Moni 06-07-2002 02:06 PM

From the AP

NORWALK, Conn. (June 7) - Kennedy cousin Michael Skakel was convicted Friday of beating Greenwich neighbor Martha Moxley to death in 1975 when they were 15 - a crime that opened a window onto a world of privilege and raised suspicions that his family ties had protected him over the years.

Skakel, 41, could get anywhere from 10 years to life in prison for murder.

The jury deliberated for more than three days.

Skakel, the nephew of Robert F. Kennedy's widow, Ethel, slumped slightly as the verdict was read. He looked at the jury and then the courtroom audience with a surprised expression, and appeared on the verge of tears.

Martha's mother, Dorthy, and brother, John, wept and hugged prosecutor Jonathan Benedict. ''Isn't it wonderful?'' Mrs. Moxley said.

Sentencing was set for July 19.

''As long as there is breath in my body, this case is not over as far as I'm concerned,'' defense attorney Michael Sherman said outside the courtroom. He vowed to do ''whatever it takes'' to free his client, adding: ''It will happen. It will happen.''

Jurors had no comment.

Martha's battered body was discovered under a tree on her family's estate in the gated Greenwich community of Belle Haven. She had been bludgeoned with a golf club - later traced to a set owned by Skakel's mother - and stabbed in the neck with the shaft of the club.

According to testimony, Skakel had a crush on Martha and got upset because his attractive blond neighbor seemed more interested in his older brother, Thomas.

Skakel's lawyer contended he was visiting a cousin in another part of Greenwich at the time of Martha's slaying.

Prosecutors had a 27-year-old case with no eyewitnesses and no forensic evidence such as DNA that could directly connect Skakel to the slaying.

Instead, the case was based almost entirely on people who said they had heard Skakel confess over the years. Among them were several former classmates of Skakel's from the Elan School, a drug and alcohol rehab center for rich kids in Poland Spring, Maine.

For more than two decades, the case had gone unsolved, stirring speculation that wealth and the Kennedy connection had protected the Skakel family. But after a flurry of books about the case in the 1990s, including works by former Los Angeles Detective Mark Furhman and crime writer Dominick Dunne, a one-judge grand jury investigated and Skakel was arrested.

By then, Skakel had been transformed from the lanky athlete of his teen-age years into a pudgy, divorced father battling alcoholism.

The case followed a twisted legal path from there to the courtroom. Skakel unsuccessfully fought to be tried as a juvenile - which could have meant no punishment at all, because Connecticut has no juvenile facility in which to lock up a middle-aged man.

One of the prosecution witnesses from the Elan School, Gregory Coleman, was dead of heroin use by the time Skakel's trial began. But prosecutors were permitted to read Coleman's pretrial testimony into the record, including an allegation that Skakel once told him:
''I'm going to get away with murder, because I'm a Kennedy.''

The defense argued that Elan students were berated and beaten until they told administrators what they wanted to hear, an atmosphere that contributed to Skakel's purported confession.

Skakel's lawyers also repeatedly reminded the jury that Thomas Skakel and former Skakel family tutor Kenneth Littleton were longtime suspects.

Dorthy Moxley, who had waged a determined campaign for justice, was a dignified fixture during the two-month trial. Even defense lawyers acknowledged the weight of her presence, asking potential jurors if they could acquit Skakel knowing it would bring her pain.

Outside the courtroom, she Moxley said: ''This is Martha's day. This is truly Martha's day. I hope that people remember that.'' She added that she has ''great empathy for the Skakel family.''

''It's bittersweet,'' John Moxley said. ''It's a hollow victory.''

After the verdict, Skakel's lawyer turned down Judge John F. Kavanewsky's offer to let him speak. But Skakel said he would like to say something.

''No, sir,'' the judge said firmly. Skakel was put in handcuffs while still in the courtroom.

David Skakel, Michael's younger brother, said: ''Michael is innocent. I know this because I know Michael.'' He said the trial ''felt like a witch hunt,'' and added: ''Twenty-seven years of insinuation and intimidation is enough.''

The trial opened a window on a privileged world where adult supervision of the teen-age Skakels was often limited to nannies, gardeners and cooks. Skakel's mother had died in 1973; his father was on a hunting trip the night of the murder.

That night - the night before Halloween, often called ''Mischief Night'' - was described by witnesses as chaotic, with teen-agers darting around the dimly lit Greenwich estates. Witnesses, including Skakel's siblings, said he and several others had gone to a cousin's home in another part of Greenwich, where they smoked marijuana and watched TV.

Skakel himself did not testify. But prosecutors used Skakel's own words to place him on the Moxley property that night.

They played a tape of Skakel telling an author in 1997 that after he returned home from his cousin's house, he went to the Moxley estate, thinking: ''Martha likes me. I'll go get a kiss from Martha. I'll be bold tonight.''

He said he climbed a tree and threw sticks and rocks at Martha's window and yelled her name. He said he then climbed down and ran home.

Redblueflare 06-07-2002 02:25 PM

I don't know what to say about this one Moni. There isn't really any *real* evidence against this guy. Some people are saying he confessed, that's really the only thing they've got against him. What do you think?

Moni 06-07-2002 03:24 PM

A twenty-two year old murder case with no forensic evidence and testimony from a dead drug addict all in order to prove a Kennedy is not above the law.

I haven't a clue as to whether he's guilty or not, in spite of his own damning confession to having been on the property that night and the murder weapon being traced back to his family.

I do believe though that a fairer court would have found him not guilty simply by the lack of evidence that would have proved his guilt beyond reasonable doubt as it is supposed to.

Ladyzekke 06-07-2002 03:28 PM

I was a bit surprised that he was found guilty with no hard evidence, but then again witness testimony is actually a form of evidence. I reckon the jury decided they could not discount so many witnesses' testimonies as being false.

Skakel down, Robert Blake next! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Moni 06-07-2002 03:37 PM

Too bad they can't put OJ back in line. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ladyzekke 06-07-2002 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moni:
Too bad they can't put OJ back in line. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
No doubt, totally different trial there, TONS of evidence, yet he walked! Wonder how his "search for the real killer" is going? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Moni 06-07-2002 03:49 PM

You'd think, with all that evidence, that he'd be able to find him right under his nose! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Ladyzekke 06-07-2002 03:54 PM

[img]graemlins/1drinkspit.gif[/img] ROTFLMAO!!

Dreamer128 06-07-2002 05:28 PM

What happened to 'Inocent until proven guilty'? And considering there is no real evidence to prove that he did it.

[ 06-07-2002, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

Moni 06-07-2002 05:43 PM

Well, like Ladyzekke said, witness testimony is actually a form of evidence. In this case it appears to have been pretty hard evidence.
I can't believe it.

khazadman 06-07-2002 07:04 PM

well twelve people say they believed the prosecution's case.there were too many people who testified that he admitted to killing moxley.and it didn't help when he changed his alibi.
and of course the kennedys are above the law.if they can't bribe the victims to shut up,they bribe the law to keep it quiet.

Ladyzekke 06-07-2002 07:11 PM

I'm sure this isn't the last of this case we will be hearing, Skakel's lawyer won't give up, can you just feel the Appeal? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

The Hunter of Jahanna 06-07-2002 07:11 PM

He should have done like OJ and got JOHNNY COCHRAN!!

Moni 06-07-2002 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by khazadman:
well twelve people say they believed the prosecution's case.there were too many people who testified that he admitted to killing moxley.and it didn't help when he changed his alibi.
and of course the kennedys are above the law.if they can't bribe the victims to shut up,they bribe the law to keep it quiet.

You know when this first became public, they couldn't find one person with any viable information.
Makes you wonder who paid who.

Lord of Alcohol 06-07-2002 08:46 PM

I really wonder about the evidence. I mean maybe he DID do it. And theres a good chance he did. But people saying he said this and that....well thats pretty weak in my opinion. But none of us were jurors on that case, maybe they saw something that we didnt. Anyway you can be sure he'll appeal and be out in a couple days. Then a few more years of retrying him. Ahhh to be a lawyer.....

Moni 06-07-2002 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
But none of us were jurors on that case,
maybe they saw something that we didnt.
Anyway you can be sure he'll appeal and be out in a couple days.
Then a few more years of retrying him.
Ahhh to be a lawyer.....

true *nods*
true! *nods*
true. *nods*
true *sighs*
true! *smiles*

Lanthir 06-07-2002 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
I really wonder about the evidence. I mean maybe he DID do it. And theres a good chance he did. But people saying he said this and that....well thats pretty weak in my opinion. But none of us were jurors on that case, maybe they saw something that we didnt. Anyway you can be sure he'll appeal and be out in a couple days. Then a few more years of retrying him. Ahhh to be a lawyer.....
Actually the judge turned down his request for bail while his appeal is pending so he goes to jail directly to jail till his sentencing july 19th. If he gets jail time which I think the judge is leaning towards since he refused bail he has to sit three till hsi appeal runs.
Also most of the testimony given was back up with recored testimony that ws given at the time fo the incident. The oly new stuff was statements he made while in rehab. the big thing was when the found the murder weapon which still (can you belive this after all these years) traces of her on it.

Moni 06-07-2002 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanthir:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
I really wonder about the evidence. I mean maybe he DID do it. And theres a good chance he did. But people saying he said this and that....well thats pretty weak in my opinion. But none of us were jurors on that case, maybe they saw something that we didnt. Anyway you can be sure he'll appeal and be out in a couple days. Then a few more years of retrying him. Ahhh to be a lawyer.....

Actually the judge turned down his request for bail while his appeal is pending so he goes to jail directly to jail till his sentencing july 19th. If he gets jail time which I think the judge is leaning towards since he refused bail he has to sit three till hsi appeal runs.
Also most of the testimony given was back up with recored testimony that ws given at the time fo the incident. The oly new stuff was statements he made while in rehab. the big thing was when the found the murder weapon which still (can you belive this after all these years) traces of her on it.
</font>[/QUOTE]But the article the Associated Press released today says "Prosecutors had a 27-year-old case with no eyewitnesses and no forensic evidence such as DNA that could directly connect Skakel to the slaying.

Wouldn't "traces of her on it" be classified as some type of forensic evidence?

The AP barticle also states that the rehab school they attended at the time was given to berating and beating students until they told administrators what they wanted to hear, "an atmosphere that contributed to Skakel's purported confession".
Shouldn't this have been taken into account?

His request for bail being denied is a bit harsh as well...are they afraid the Kennedys are going to put him into hiding?
Does the judicial board with the power over the moves being made in this case have a vendetta against the Kennedys for any reason?
Sounds like it to me.
Just My Opinion.

/)eathKiller 06-07-2002 10:18 PM

I don't see why the Kenedy's are considered so high-and-mighty anyway... just because one was the president and then was shot, and one was a senator but died in an airplane, and one was trying to be the president and was a senator but was also shot... I'm sorry but what the hell out of all of that makes the Kenedy's so great? Besides Skakel is a distant cousin who doesn't share the same last name, it was his mother's maiden name so there's no point to it, a Drug addicts a drug addict's a drug addict, just as a Muderrer is a murderrer is a murderrer... we can't differinciate between them, we are a country that is so free that we can put our own leader to the Death penalty should he commit a mass murder in the oval office, we shouldn't let a distant relative of a person who USED to have that office have equal power, oH and money is NOTHING unlless you're Bill Gates...

Moni 06-07-2002 10:21 PM

But Skakel doesn't have any power...he's getting convicted on what I'd call heresay.
Kennedy or not, how fair is that?


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