Pizza deliverymen to rat on drinkers
Government will pay those who turn in underage partiers

Posted: May 27, 2004
2:56 p.m. Eastern
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A police department in New Hampshire is paying pizza deliverymen and hotel clerks who give the cops information about underage drinking parties, if the tip leads to an arrest.
Those who tattle on minors or their parents will receive $50 under a new law being enforced in Portsmouth, N.H.
"The message being sent to parents is that it's not safe for them to host a party," Jackie Valley of the Community Diversion Program in Greenland, N.H., told the Portsmouth Herald.
The law makes it a misdemeanor for the owner or occupant at any given address to host a gathering of five or more minors who are consuming alcohol or drugs.
"It's not necessarily just in a home," Sgt. Mike Schwartz, who is in charge of the Juvenile Division of the Portsmouth Police Department, told the paper. "It could be an apartment or even a hotel room."
Under the new program, known as the "Booze Bounty," deliverypeople and hotel employees are encouraged to submit tips anonymously.
"We're going to market this to pizza delivery places and also to hotel clerks," Schwartz said.
The Herald reported many local businesses were in favor of the program.
"My employees have enough contact with these customers to know what's going on," said the manager of a delivery restaurant who wished to remain anonymous. He supports the new program.
"I don't want my drivers to feel like they're junior police officers," he said, "but I'm willing to help."
Schwartz told the paper teens as young as 17 who throw a party could be tried as adults under the new law.

Source: WorldNetDaily

That'd, if nothing else, increase the number of really annoying pizza guys...

Not gonna happen. If pizza guys did this, people would just start ordering Chinese.

And I have a serious problem with people who are criminals because they are underage being tried as adults. You can't drink like an adult but they can try you like one? That's just wrong.

heh, thats probably the smartest government idea i think i've heard in a LONG time.

Yeah, but now that the media have wind of it and the scheme is out in the open its effectivness will be shattered, for reasons Illumina has already indicated. Spies and informants lose alot of their effectivness once the spied-on become aware of their presence.

[ 05-30-2004, 08:49 PM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]

Yes as soon as the pizza guy pulls up. The music is off and everone hides in the back and the person that is least drunk gets the pizza problem solved.

Or just tip your pizza guy 51 dollars problem solved as well. :D

Well, I don't like it. I really feel sorry for kids today. They can't drink, can't haze, can't drive drunk, can't have bottle rocket wars and BB gun wars... take away the drugs and the "footloose and fancy free" years are officially just more bland days in a lifetime of boredom. No wonder kids these days skip the goofing off and go right for the hard drugs -- if it's all disallowed, then why not?

Some things can only be learned by experience. If the kids aren't screwing up when they're 16 and 18, they'll do it when they're 21, when it can really hurt their careers.

Oh, and just so you know, the legal limit for someone under 21 in NH is 0.02. And a DUI for an underage is an automatic felony. Now, get this, guy my age gets drunk at a bar and gets caught driving home witha 1.0 BAC -- that's a serious misdemeanor, and I'd have to do a month's alcohol course to avoid a pretty bad conviction. On the other hand, a kid who had his first beer ever gets caught driving home with a .02 BAC (legal for the adult), is on the hook for a FELONY, a crime which will prevent him from going to most colleges, and will follow him forever (no gun ownership, can't vote, etc.).

[ 05-31-2004, 02:36 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

Don't they have any real criminals in New Hampshire?

actually timber, if the child was under the age of eighteen and is driving drunk that felony will only remain on record until they turn eighteen, at which point it is removed. i guess he shouldnt have drove though... that was stupid.

Sheesh, i'm glad i grew up in a REAL democratic country.

I've always found it strange that you can die for your country in battle, before you're legally old enough to drink.

johny, america has never been a true democracy, and i dont think the netherlands is a true democracy either. i think they are both democratic republics.

The Republic of The Netherlands! It does have a kind of ring to it!

The Republic of The Netherlands! It does have a kind of ring to it! </font>[/QUOTE]Someone really should tell our queen about that, though...

I think not. [img]tongue.gif[/img] We are a monarchy. Like the British, we're from the old school. :D

What i meant with it, is that we here can throw parties at the age of 17, get shamelessly drunk, stoned or whatever, without having to fear that the police will come bothering us about it. :D

Spongebob...

Anyway...

I'm no libertine, I don't believe in just random indulgence of momentary pleasures. However, I won't condemn another for so doing. Were I a pizza man, I'd deliver the pizza, ask for a beer, and keep my mouth shut. I might not drink the beer, but it would just be a symbolic code of silence act, a gesture of being one of them. I wouldn't report them. On the other hand, if something criminal happened, that my testifying before a court of law or giving information to the police would help solve, I'd do that, but I would refuse to name names outside that particular criminal act.

What i meant with it, is that we here can throw parties at the age of 17, get shamelessly drunk, stoned or whatever, without having to fear that the police will come bothering us about it.

i dont disagree. i think that the drinking age limit in the united states is an outdated and irresponsible definition. however, to be a democracy (or a republic) does not mean there is no law and every man to himself. it means the people willingly submit to the law for the greatest good of the people. we, as citizens, have a moral obligation to adhere to the just laws of our nation... or we do not deserve the right to vote, or any other right guarunteed by our nation. if being held responsible for drinking under age is what is required, then so be it.

Is it just me or is there one single practical problem with this idea? Most of the time, the partiers who will be underage drinking are at least 14, but more often, they will be by high school age kids. How on earth are pizza guys going to be able to tell who's 18 and who's not? (if the legal age in New Hampshire is 19 or 21, the point remains that there will be people of very close age, that may look old enough to be of majority.) They going to ask for ID? Hell, I'm 16, but I'm 6'4, 215 and I'm not scrawny. I have no problems at movies or other places where you need to be...identified ( ;) )

You may end up with either a situation where cops are being called out to every party with younger people (most people past college age don't have the same kind of house parties, in my experience ;) ), or unsure pizza guys not calling in any. I'm not sure it works that well either way. Far better to try and get the pizza guys to make sure no one leaves and starts driving drunk. Give them the pay for convincing kids to call cabs. I think thats a far bigger societal problem than a bunch of kids drinking themselves senseless in some basement.