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Donut 08-21-2003 08:48 AM

The guy killed at the beginning of the war?

Well now he's been captured!!

:D

Stratos 08-21-2003 09:18 AM

What is it with the Iraqis and their moustaches? Talk about Attack of the Clone. :D

Skunk 08-21-2003 09:33 AM

When do you expect 'em to capture Uday and Qusay?

Looks like the military have adopted a new emblem:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~warlock/ylex/ghostbusters.gif

pritchke 08-21-2003 09:36 AM

<font face="Verdana" size="3" color="#00FF00"> I thought the guy was dead.

Nice resurrection, Ripley has nothing on him. now Muslims will flock to him believing he is Allah's chosen one coming back from the dead like that.</font>

[ 08-21-2003, 09:38 AM: Message edited by: pritchke ]

Timber Loftis 08-21-2003 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
The guy killed at the beginning of the war?

Well now he's been captured!!

:D

Interesting. I went to other news sources to confirm it. Sorry, but after the BBC's gaff on insisting to report the US forces were not in Baghdad (when we were all watching footage of them at the airport), and their subsequent chastising, I don't trust their news on Iraq. They're still one of the most reliable sources, it's just that with Iraq they are openly unabashedly and stubbornly anti-US and UK, and it jades their reporting.

Donut 08-21-2003 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
The guy killed at the beginning of the war?

Well now he's been captured!!

:D

Interesting. I went to other news sources to confirm it. Sorry, but after the BBC's gaff on insisting to report the US forces were not in Baghdad (when we were all watching footage of them at the airport), and their subsequent chastising, I don't trust their news on Iraq. They're still one of the most reliable sources, it's just that with Iraq they are openly unabashedly and stubbornly anti-US and UK, and it jades their reporting. </font>[/QUOTE]And you got that gem of information from the National Review Online I'm guessing. Sorry TL, that's the World Service, a whole different part of the BBC.

(I'm suprised that you believed that about the World Service without corroboration from an unbiased source)

[ 08-21-2003, 09:45 AM: Message edited by: Donut ]

Skunk 08-21-2003 09:52 AM

Quote:

Interesting. I went to other news sources to confirm it. Sorry, but after the BBC's gaff on insisting to report the US forces were not in Baghdad (when we were all watching footage of them at the airport), and their subsequent chastising, I don't trust their news on Iraq. They're still one of the most reliable sources, it's just that with Iraq they are openly unabashedly and stubbornly anti-US and UK, and it jades their reporting.
That's quite funny because I personally find the BBC to be blatently *pro* US/UK!

Donut 08-21-2003 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Skunk:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
Interesting. I went to other news sources to confirm it. Sorry, but after the BBC's gaff on insisting to report the US forces were not in Baghdad (when we were all watching footage of them at the airport), and their subsequent chastising, I don't trust their news on Iraq. They're still one of the most reliable sources, it's just that with Iraq they are openly unabashedly and stubbornly anti-US and UK, and it jades their reporting.

That's quite funny because I personally find the BBC to be blatently *pro* US/UK! </font>[/QUOTE]I've heard both sides complaining of bias. That's what makes me think they must be doing something right!

Davros 08-21-2003 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
The guy killed at the beginning of the war?

Well now he's been captured!!

:D

Curiouser and curiouser said Alice.

Seems like someone's been tellin porkies to us all ;)

Lord Lothar 08-21-2003 10:19 AM

<font color=cadetblue>I wonder what they're planning on doing with him...Are they going to put him on trial for war crimes?</font>

johnny 08-21-2003 10:45 AM

I had a funny feeling about him being dead from the beginning. Since they never could come up with any evidence i mean.

GForce 08-21-2003 11:12 AM

Ha! That's not Chemical Ali. That's Saddam Hussein. Yeah I know its not but hey the guy looks just like him. Cousin eh? More like his brother. [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

Timber Loftis 08-21-2003 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
And you got that gem of information from the National Review Online I'm guessing. Sorry TL, that's the World Service, a whole different part of the BBC.

(I'm suprised that you believed that about the World Service without corroboration from an unbiased source)

I didn't know there was a distinction. I like the BBC. Just like I like the NY Times. I have been sorely disappointed this year to find that both have had issues.

And, except when I accidently click one of Attalus's or MagiK's news links, I don't read the NRO. ;)

john 08-21-2003 12:58 PM

Well why not just bury the bastard,he was dead?right?

khazadman 08-21-2003 01:48 PM

Well one thing they could do with Ali is hand him over to the Kurds. I think they would come up with a suitable punishment.

johnny 08-21-2003 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by john:
Well why not just bury the bastard,he was dead?right?
He doesn't deserve a quick death, let him rot in prison.

WillowIX 08-21-2003 03:49 PM

Not really surprising is it? So who else is alive? Or who else is dead...

Stratos 08-21-2003 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillowIX:
Not really surprising is it? So who else is alive? Or who else is dead...
Maybe someone is practicing the dark art of Necromancy. :D


Saddam casts Animate Dead: Chemical Ali
Chemical Ali: *Roar* Uuuuunnnggghh...Eat brain!' *Growl*
Saddam: Go forth my minion, go forth and kill the invaders!

[ 08-21-2003, 04:02 PM: Message edited by: Stratos ]

Chewbacca 08-21-2003 05:16 PM

They can go ahead and bomb him now. Its seems they finally have solid intel on his location so they can't miss. Just put him in a house in an Iraqi neighborhood and let a couple 500 pounders loose on his ass. That was good enough before...why not do it now..is that bad?

Really lets just kill him...no need for a trial or anything messy like that...heresay is good enough.

Oh sorry I was being sarcastic... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

He should get a trial.

john 08-21-2003 06:21 PM

When I said bury him I didn't think to kill him again just bury him,as he is!

Lord Lothar 08-21-2003 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by john:
When I said bury him I didn't think to kill him again just bury him,as he is!
<font color=cadetblue>Nah, he deserves a worse fate.</font>

WillowIX 08-22-2003 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chewbacca:
He should get a trial.
I'm going to use your quote a little Chewie. I hope that's OK. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I support the notion that this man(?) should get a trial and thereafter his sentence. It may be death or it may be a lifetime in prison. It's not for me to decide.

But reading several comments in this thread, and I don't think all of them is serious, I wonder do you really support that men like this should be executed without a trial? Should this be implemented in all cases? Take Milosevic as an example. He committed several "crimes". Should he have been executed at once?

Donut 08-22-2003 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillowIX:


I support the notion that this man(?) should get a trial and thereafter his sentence. It may be death or it may be a lifetime in prison. It's not for me to decide.


In between the trial and the sentence there should also be a verdict maybe? ;)

WillowIX 08-22-2003 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
In between the trial and the sentence there should also be a verdict maybe? ;)
Naah! Why would we need that? Come on Donut, you and I both know what the verdict would be. ;) :D But OK let's throw in a verdict just for the fun of it. And sorry about hijacking your thread some.

Donut 08-22-2003 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WillowIX:
Naah! Why would we need that? Come on Donut, you and I both know what the verdict would be. ;) :D But OK let's throw in a verdict just for the fun of it. And sorry about hijacking your thread some.
I hadn't even noticed the hijacking Willow!

Yes - he's guilty, I know that, so why bother with a show trial, that smacks a bit of the old style communists!

WillowIX 08-22-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Donut:
I hadn't even noticed the hijacking Willow!

Yes - he's guilty, I know that, so why bother with a show trial, that smacks a bit of the old style communists!

Actually it could be related to the Nurnberg process. And chemical-Ali has created crimes against human kind so there should definitely be a trial before there is any verdict. But in this trial the defendant won't be innocent until proven otherwise. But I still belive there should be a trial. Otherwise we're back to 'the winner takes it all'. ;)


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