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The Hunter of Jahanna 08-07-2003 10:10 PM

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Priest Arrested, Accused Of Soliciting Prostitute


POSTED: 1:17 p.m. EDT August 4, 2003
UPDATED: 7:13 a.m. EDT August 5, 2003

A Roman Catholic priest was arrested during the weekend for soliciting a prostitute and masturbating in his car, according to Orange County sheriff's officials.
The Rev. Thomas Vellappallil, 40, was charged Saturday with soliciting a prostitute and committing a lewd act for offering to pay an undercover police officer $20 for oral sex, according to a report from the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Vellappallil, who was a priest and former teacher at the Good Shepherd Catholic Church and School, has been removed from the ministry, said Carol Brinati, spokeswoman for the Catholic Diocese of Orlando. "He can't work as a priest in our diocese pending the outcome of the investigation," she said.

"The news came as a shock," according to a statement from the Orlando Diocese said. "We are very saddened. We are keeping Father Thomas and the church parishioners in our prayers."


Vellappallil was released from jail on $750 bond.

Vellappallil had served at his church in Orlando for four years.
The part in bold is what realy gets me going. If you have sex with an altar boy then they hide you out, pay your lawyer bills, and generaly try to protect you from any form of criminal prosecution. The first time you touch a woman though, they toss you out and leave you to twist in the breeze. Talk about screwd up priorities, sheesh!! Also , here is an article that outlines how the church protects its most prized pedophiles: http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/topstor...218191501.html

Some of the things in that article will realy make you ill.

The Hierophant 08-07-2003 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Priest Arrested, Accused Of Soliciting Prostitute


POSTED: 1:17 p.m. EDT August 4, 2003
UPDATED: 7:13 a.m. EDT August 5, 2003

A Roman Catholic priest was arrested during the weekend for soliciting a prostitute and masturbating in his car, according to Orange County sheriff's officials.
The Rev. Thomas Vellappallil, 40, was charged Saturday with soliciting a prostitute and committing a lewd act for offering to pay an undercover police officer $20 for oral sex, according to a report from the Orange County Sheriff's Office.

Vellappallil, who was a priest and former teacher at the Good Shepherd Catholic Church and School, has been removed from the ministry, said Carol Brinati, spokeswoman for the Catholic Diocese of Orlando. "He can't work as a priest in our diocese pending the outcome of the investigation," she said.

"The news came as a shock," according to a statement from the Orlando Diocese said. "We are very saddened. We are keeping Father Thomas and the church parishioners in our prayers."


Vellappallil was released from jail on $750 bond.

Vellappallil had served at his church in Orlando for four years.

The part in bold is what realy gets me going. If you have sex with an altar boy then they hide you out, pay your lawyer bills, and generaly try to protect you from any form of criminal prosecution. The first time you touch a woman though, they toss you out and leave you to twist in the breeze. Talk about screwd up priorities, sheesh!! Also , here is an article that outlines how the church protects its most prized pedophiles: http://cbs11tv.com/localnews/topstor...218191501.html

Some of the things in that article will realy make you ill.
</font>[/QUOTE]No no no. The Catholic Church is morally uncorruptable. These things just don't happen. This isn't happening. I'm not listening... *buries head in sand* ;)
heh heh.

True_Moose 08-07-2003 10:17 PM

Well, I can see why this would be grounds for dismissing a priest. Imagine putting that experience in a sermon. But I agree, after the sheltering of pedophile priests, it's outrageous. Also, what's with the lewd act thing. I mean, I somehow doubt he was masturbating in rush hour traffic in front of soccer-mom vans. He was probably in a secluded alleyway. That second charge is pretty stupid, in my opinion.

johnny 08-07-2003 10:23 PM

Is visiting a prostitute illegal in the entire US ?

True_Moose 08-07-2003 10:24 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
Is visiting a prostitute illegal in the entire US ?
In Nevada, it is optional in counties with less than either 30 000 or 300 000 people. Other than that, yep.

johnny 08-07-2003 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by True_Moose:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
Is visiting a prostitute illegal in the entire US ?

In Nevada, it is optional in counties with less than either 30 000 or 300 000 people. Other than that, yep. </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe this is a stupid question, but why ?

True_Moose 08-07-2003 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by True_Moose:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
Is visiting a prostitute illegal in the entire US ?

In Nevada, it is optional in counties with less than either 30 000 or 300 000 people. Other than that, yep. </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe this is a stupid question, but why ? </font>[/QUOTE]Not really sure, but I think it was mainly to protect the tourism industries of Reno and Las Vegas, because they would lose a lot of families if prostitutes were found all over the place. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Canada's even weirder. Prostitution itself is not illegal, but you can't be part of a brothel, solicit prostitution, or live solely off the benefits of prostitution (ie, can't put on your tax return, "Prostitute" as occupation ;) )

johnny 08-07-2003 10:40 PM

It's a bit weird if you ask me. Visiting prostitutes is illegal, so therefore they have undercover agents walking the streets, sexing up every guy that passes by, hoping they can catch one who shows interrest ? And than you get arrested like a common criminal, because some bimbo just made you horny ?

I've never visited a prostitute in my life, but i can imagine if i'm walking somewhere, minding my own business, and some sexy looking mama steps up to me, whispering.... um ... naughty things in my ear, i'd make some time for it. Now how the hell does that make me a criminal ?

Sheesh, i'm glad i live in the Netherlands. :D

True_Moose 08-07-2003 10:50 PM

The thing with prostitution as it stands now, is that prostitutes are usually exploited, addicted individuals on skid row. Pimps and hustlers force them, among them many underage girls, to sell themselves for near-nothing. That is the reason the laws exist. However, the advantage of legalising it is that you can regulate it. If you make mandatory ages, and force doctor's exams, and generally regulate it (as is done in the Netherlands and Nevada), then you get a good, clean, though underground, industry.

Quite honestly, the reason it's not gonna be legalised anytime soon in the States is because it offends people. Some people don't think it's right, and so there are your laws. I don't agree with the current laws myself, much like I think that criminalizing marijuana and consensual sodomy should both be shot straight to hell (yes, I know that wasn't part of any subject, but I felt like shooting it in there anyway :D )

[ 08-07-2003, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: True_Moose ]

The Hierophant 08-07-2003 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by True_Moose:
the advantage of legalising it is that you can regulate it. If you make mandatory ages, and force doctor's exams, and generally regulate it (as is done in the Netherlands and Nevada)

And as of a month ago, NEW ZEALAND! Woo Hoo!

True_Moose 08-07-2003 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by The Hierophant:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by True_Moose:
the advantage of legalising it is that you can regulate it. If you make mandatory ages, and force doctor's exams, and generally regulate it (as is done in the Netherlands and Nevada)

And as of a month ago, NEW ZEALAND! Woo Hoo! </font>[/QUOTE]Purpose of the Trip: Pleasure :D :D :D

Chewbacca 08-08-2003 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by johnny:
Maybe this is a stupid question, but why ?
Puritans, thought-police, moralists, prudes. Should I go on? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Although most American cities have an underground escort industry that are very successful at evading the law, so the laws are not only futile, but a waste of money.
If this fellow had picked up the right free newpaper, he coulda had a "model" "dance" for him and probably avoided this mess.

It is blood-boiling that the church is quick to fire this guy but spenbt years coddling pedophiles. They deserve to get sued back to the stone age.

Here in Mass they won't even prosecute the Bishops and such who coddled the pedo-priests. They say because of "lax" laws. I think the church has some friends in high places to get away with this evil without criminal prosecution.

[ 08-08-2003, 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Chewbacca ]

Mr. Mopery 08-08-2003 11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Chewbacca:
Here in Mass they won't even prosecute the Bishops and such who coddled the pedo-priests. They say because of "lax" laws. I think the church has some friends in high places to get away with this evil without criminal prosecution.
And yet, as I recall, isn't "sodomy" still listed in the law books as a crime? One of those really old laws that nobody bothers to change or pay much attention to.

In Texas it's apparently still legal to kill an Indian as long as you're in a covered wagon.

Maybe if I get me a covered wagon and mosey up to Massatwoshits I can shoot me up some kiddy fiddlers...?

B_part 08-09-2003 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by True_Moose:
Canada's even weirder. Prostitution itself is not illegal, but you can't be part of a brothel, solicit prostitution, or live solely off the benefits of prostitution (ie, can't put on your tax return, "Prostitute" as occupation ;) )
In Italy it's the same. The reason why? Allowing the religious and the prudes to say that prostitution is a crime, but also allowing a bit of leeway if you are caught with a prostitute: it isn't considered a crime.
The result? prostitutes get exploited by pimps, are underage and illegal immigrants, have no medical guarantees and so on. But they still roam the roads because what they offer is in great demand, and will always be.
There are many who voice the abolition of the Merlin law (which in the 50's abolished brothels), but it will never be done: in the USA you have conservative republicans and cannot even teach evolution theories. Here in Italy we can teach evolution theories, but we have a Pope who will never allow common sense to take over.


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