Just like all those redneck patriots that improperly display the flag.

Yet another reason to impeach him:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...168/4s8z4.html

<img src=http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030725/capt.1059092783.bush_cdh111.jpg align=middle border=1 width=410 height=306>


From the US Code, Title 4, Chapter 1, Sec. 8 (g):

The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

The title of that portion of the US Code? "Respect for flag".

I`d never except something like this from a man like GWB.
Weird.

<font color=skyblue>I think that rule only applies to an official and registered flag, not one sold at a gas station for 99¢. I may be wrong, but that is my guess.</font>

That is an intriguing comment, Larry. Which flags actually carry the symbolic value and which don't ? ;)

To emphasize the question : if someone somewhere burns a flag similar to the one M. Bush wrote onto, would you feel angry ... ? ;)

My reading of the flag code says no such thing *shrug*

Edit:
Also if he had done this withing the District of Columbia he would be subject to a $100 fine and/or 30 days in jail ;)

[ 07-29-2003, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: Rokenn ]

My reading of the flag code says no such thing *shrug*

Edit:
Also if he had done this withing the District of Columbia he would be subject to a $100 fine and/or 30 days in jail ;) </font>[/QUOTE]great, so terrorist now have a way to be invunerable. dress in american flag clothes. after all, if you shoot the flag your in deep trouble. :D

nah, because it is also against the flag code to wear a flag. Now if the politians would just remember that [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img]

nah, because it is also against the flag code to wear a flag. Now if the politians would just remember that [img]graemlins/laugh2.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]good good. lol can you imagine George dubya wearing a flag? :D scary thing is, i can [img]graemlins/uhoh1.gif[/img]

What red-blooded American is going to object to a tall buxom lady in a flag swimsuit though? I can conviently forget the flag code for such a sight. ;)

What red-blooded American is going to object to a tall buxom lady in a flag swimsuit though? I can conviently forget the flag code for such a sight. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]<font color=orange>I'd forget it too! :D </font>

What is the penalty provision for breaking/not following that part of the US Code?

What red-blooded American is going to object to a tall buxom lady in a flag swimsuit though? I can conviently forget the flag code for such a sight. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]I would object!!! Now, if it was Cameron Mathison or some other hunky guy in a bathing suit, well that's totally different!!!! [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D

lol, that reminds me of the first Austin Powers movie where he is in his Union Jack skivvies and the British commando's are saluting them.

What red-blooded American is going to object to a tall buxom lady in a flag swimsuit though? I can conviently forget the flag code for such a sight. ;) </font>[/QUOTE]I would object! Then demand that she remove the offensive attire IMMEDIATLY! :D :D [img]graemlins/showoff.gif[/img]

Ever heard of a film from 1970 called Myra Breckenridge? It starred Raquel Welch and in it she wore a star-spangled swimsuit.


Look here for a pic:

http://www.geocities.com/raquelwelch5/pictures/069.jpg


Mark

What's the big deal about "respecting a flag" anyway ? It's only a piece of cloth. There are other more important things to respect as far as i'm concerned.

yeah i agree. for example the country the flag represents. whats the point worrying what bush does to the flag after he's already messed around with the country it represents?
:(

My observation over the past 35 years is that when everything is going good in the country, and there isn't a national controversy, then anybody can ignore the US Code. They can use the flag to advertise, wear it any way they want, and they can desecrate a flag (fly it in the dark, leave it on the ground, etc.).

If there is a large national controversy then these are the rules that apply. If you support the President, you can still do what you want because that is patriotic. If you don't support the President any display of the flag, even conforming to the US Code, is unpatriotic and probably treasonous.

The real problem with this issue is that, in America, the tendency to make nationalism a religion is very strong. Thus the national images become religious symbols and are vested with an interegal power and worth. To attack the symbol is to attack nation.

Just out of Idle curiosity I wonder what the percentage of people that believe burning the flag is ok are now screaming about Presidnt Bush signing a flag. Anybody want to bet it the percentage is above 50%? It's amazing how when somebody they don't like does something they are willing to jump.

As for the Impeachment, Does anybody Know what the Job of the US Senator leading that Charge was before 1 Jan, 2003?

You guessed it Sen Bob Ghramm (SP?) of Florida was the Chairman of the Senate Intelligance Comm. His job was to keep track of ALL things pertaining to ONLY the US Intelligence for the US Senate, not other matters like say the military, or the EPA,Housing and Urban development, the US dept. of Education, etc. Unlike President Bush that has to Keep up with many more matters. SO What did Sen. Ghramm Know and when did he Know it? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... That question MUST be asked First. The Senate Intelligence Comm. gets the same briefings the Presdient gets and has access to the SAME material. So if Senator Ghramm couldn't figure anything out, As evidenced by His silance on the matters leading up to 11 Sept 2001, and the war in Iraq. What the "Hale" is he whinning about? Does anybody want to bet me his whinning is not motvated by his bid to run for the US president? Or prehaps His complaints are not policticly motovated? Where was Senator Ghramm's complants when the preceding President was in office making the Same claims as President Bush? * Answer* He was leading the charge for attacking Iraq! Where was Senator Ghramm's speaking out about anything before it happened? Where was his complants about creditable Intel on WoMD's? OR the Iraq Niger uranium conection? Oh by the way President Bush DID NOT say in the State of the Union Speach that the USA had Intel. that SoDamn Insane was trying to get Uranium from Niger. He said "The British Government has Learned..." (see my post on the facts http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...;f=27;t=000088 )

i figure it is close to as amazing as when somebody they like does something and they are willing to look the other way!

Nevertheless for all i can tell by looking at the picture.. i can't tell if it is Bush, Clinton or a female impersonator! :D jk.

This is a good observation.. and each side of the angle has both pros and cons. The best imo would naturally be some kind of balance between the two different eras when this phenomenon occurs.

i figure it is close to as amazing as when somebody they like does something and they are willing to look the other way!

Nevertheless for all i can tell by looking at the picture.. i can't tell if it is Bush, Clinton or a female impersonator! :D jk. </font>[/QUOTE]I would agree EXECEPT if you had read any of My posts during the Flag burning Brewhaha. I made it perfectly clear I don't care what you do with any USA that you have bought with your own money, just don't try and burn a flag that I have bought and paid for. So there's nothing amazing here except the consistancy in my position. ;)

Thanks antryg,
This is exactly what I was getting at.

John,
I agree with your position on flag burning. The call for impeachment was an attempt at very dry humor.

How do we even know it's Bush? It could be a staged photo. For mine it doesn't look like him but whatever.... I couldn't care either way. I can't vote and it's not my flag. :D

However, I did see bizarre things around 9/11. I actually wore a US flag bandana to show my support for my current home.

I saw a guy in a van selling US flags assaulted. Why? He didn't have enough flags to sell to the masses of people gathered outside his trying pleading for them, so he was cutting some up to give people half flags.

Some idiot decided to take the law into his own hands and started beating the guy up for disrespecting the flag. Craziness.

The police would tell this guy to move, because he couldn't sell from the steet like he was doing (without a permit I suppose) so he'd drive slowly and masses of people would follow him until he stopped, and started selling again.

That's where I bought my bandana.

The interesting thing is that some of the cloth was not official USA flag, but incorporated the elements in the design.

So. Would a bathing suit that contains elements of the flag, but is not the flag in entirety be regarded as a sacrosanct flag? Could you burn a piece of red and white striped material without the blue and white stars for example?

Doh, of course I meant American heterosexual male and some females too of course. ;) :D

I know, I'll go for a politically correct rephrase-

What American is going to object to what they percieve as an attractive person in a scanty flag swimsuit. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Exactly. [img]smile.gif[/img] It's a little piece of cloth with a signature. Come on!

Yorick, the photo doesn't look fake to me although I agree with you that it is impossible to determine if it is Bush in the picture.