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Charean 05-26-2002 11:51 AM

When the rap artist Eminem took the stage at the annual HFS-tival, there was a sudden rush to the stage. Several people were trampled, and some had to be transported to local hospitals, prompting Fire/EMS to declare a mass casualty incident. The most seriously injured was a 20-year-old man who went into cardiac arrest in the melee.

Just after 8:00 pm, scores of people suddenly rushed the stage at the music event, held at RFK Stadium. Five people were eventually transported, including the code-1 cardiac patient. DC EMS providers were able to utilize an automatic external defibrillator on the patient, who was also intubated before being transported to Medstar, where his condition was unknown.

"Upwards of 30 people were examined at the scene, suffering from injuries consistent of being trampled," said EMS Special Operations Lt. Henry Lyles. "It was a hectic several minutes, but our folks did a great job."

A triple local alarm was assigned to this event, including three engines, one truck, a battalion fire chief, all three rescue squads, and seven EMS units (not including the units detailed to the event).
In addition, five EMS units were called in from Prince George‚s County and four from Montgomery County.

*My question is why they rushed the stage in the first place. [img]graemlins/1ponder.gif[/img]

The Hunter of Jahanna 05-26-2002 12:04 PM

They kind of deserve it for being Emenem fans. Just goes to show that Darwins theory of natural selection is alive and well. If you cant Mosh you get Squashed!! Now if we could just get backstreet boi and briteny spears fans to follow the example.

Winkin 05-26-2002 12:13 PM

oh nos, another I love system of the down fan....

nick1979 05-26-2002 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by The Hunter of Jahanna:
[QB]They kind of deserve it for being Emenem fans. QB]
Its the stupid line of the Day!!! Yay. Nobody deserves to be trampled for the type of music that they like. I enjoy some of Eminems music. I have seen things this like this happen at all kinds of concerts.

Evil Al 05-26-2002 12:36 PM

I hate Eminem and i hate his music, i also don't like Britney Spears or the Backstreet Boys. But it doesn't make me happy to hear that some of their fans got badly hurt. Even though some people don't like me because of the type of music i like it doesn't mean i should hate them for liking dance, rap and pop. That would make me a hypocrite.

Melusine 05-26-2002 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by nick1979:
Its the stupid line of the Day!!! Yay. Nobody deserves to be trampled for the type of music that they like. I enjoy some of Eminems music. I have seen things this like this happen at all kinds of concerts.
Too true Nick! What an utterly stupid thing to say, Hunter. [img]graemlins/idontagreeatall.gif[/img] Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Ever heard of the festival Roskilde, where a number of people were literally squashed to death as Pearl Jam played? If you want to lash out at anyone, lash out at the organisation for not taking accurate safety measures or at the herd mentality of the crowds in which these accidents happen.

Bahamut 05-26-2002 12:50 PM

Yep it's a bad thing to say...

have respect for what they like and they will respect yours in return ;)

[img]smile.gif[/img]

Beaumanoir 05-26-2002 01:06 PM

Got My Hopes Up. I Thought Eminem Had Been Injured At His Concert. Maybe Held His Chainsaw The Wrong Way... Oh Well, Theres Always Tomorrow... :D

But Then Again, It's Sad To See This. And I Don't Really Agree With Hunter, Even Tho I Do Think Eminem Sucks. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[ 05-26-2002, 01:07 PM: Message edited by: Beaumanoir ]

khazadman 05-26-2002 06:30 PM

i can understand guys rushing the stage when britney is on stage,but not this little punk ass bitch eminem.it's not hard to figure why a guy would get excited about britney,but why the excitement for him? :D

MILAMBER 05-26-2002 06:35 PM

I really don't think that Hunter meant that they actually deserved to die. It seemed to me that he was joking, and if that is the case we should probably cut him a little slack.

Sir Goulum 05-26-2002 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by Melusine:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by nick1979:
Its the stupid line of the Day!!! Yay. Nobody deserves to be trampled for the type of music that they like. I enjoy some of Eminems music. I have seen things this like this happen at all kinds of concerts.

Too true Nick! What an utterly stupid thing to say, Hunter. [img]graemlins/idontagreeatall.gif[/img] Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Ever heard of the festival Roskilde, where a number of people were literally squashed to death as Pearl Jam played? If you want to lash out at anyone, lash out at the organisation for not taking accurate safety measures or at the herd mentality of the crowds in which these accidents happen.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color=Orange>Your all right except Hunter. Thats a horrible thing to happen to people; being sent to the hospital for being trampled. Even if you hate Eminem, which I do, it gives you no right to say that they deserved to be trampled. Its wrong.</font>

Melusine 05-26-2002 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by MILAMBER:
I really don't think that Hunter meant that they actually deserved to die. It seemed to me that he was joking, and if that is the case we should probably cut him a little slack.
I don't think making jokes about people who get hurt or die are funny, not in this way. Being crushed to death in a crowd is a terrible way to die and not as rare as you think. Can I make jokes about 9/11 then? Not that I'd even want to... but maybe that demonstrates my point.

Sir Goulum 05-26-2002 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Melusine:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MILAMBER:
I really don't think that Hunter meant that they actually deserved to die. It seemed to me that he was joking, and if that is the case we should probably cut him a little slack.

I don't think making jokes about people who get hurt or die are funny, not in this way. Being crushed to death in a crowd is a terrible way to die and not as rare as you think. Can I make jokes about 9/11 then? Not that I'd even want to... but maybe that demonstrates my point.</font>[/QUOTE]<font color=Orange>Melusine, youve got a good point. Even if Hunter was joking, it was just dumb and mean.</font>

Larry_OHF 05-26-2002 06:57 PM

<font color=skyblue>If I ever go to another concert that might get outta hand...I am inviting Lord of Alcohol to come with me, seeing that the concert would be in Charlotte anyway. I'll stand in front of him...it'll be like having my back against a brick wall! Safety is secured.</font>

Sir Goulum 05-26-2002 06:59 PM

<font color=Orange>It's also possible, answereing Chareans question of why they rushed the stage in the first place, is that they might have gotten drunk before the concert.</font>

Melusine 05-26-2002 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
<font color=Orange>It's also possible, answereing Chareans question of why they rushed the stage in the first place, is that they might have gotten drunk before the concert.</font>
Could be any stupid reason. Some people just act stupid at concerts... all I'm saying is that it's sad others become the victim of that (it's usually not the pushers who get injured, it's the people who get pushed). Most gigs I visited were pretty ok in this respect. Most people don't believe it but at metal concerts, the crowd's actually watching out for eachother and taking care that no one gets hurt (maybe precisely because the audience is a little rougher than elsewhere)(in my experience anyhow). That's an attitude more people should adopt -there's nothing like an egoistic and grim audience to ruin your night out.

The Hunter of Jahanna 05-26-2002 07:59 PM

Originaly posted by :Milamber
Quote:

I really don't think that Hunter meant that they actually deserved to die. It seemed to me that he was joking, and if that is the case we should probably cut him a little slack.
thanx Milamber , at least someone got the joke. Before everyone tells me how unfuny it was , I already read about it.

Larry_OHF 05-26-2002 08:34 PM

<font color=skyblue>You are right, Hunter, if anybody else wants to jump on you, it should be considered spam or "band-wagon" attacking, as I like to call it. You may have slipped up with a few words, but now should be allowed now to make amends. I hope everybody can get back on-topic with the real reason this thread was created.</font>

MagiK 05-26-2002 08:39 PM

Well gee, sounds to me like concerts are dangerous to children..perhaps we should revoke the freedom of assembly so this wouldnt happen to our youths [img]smile.gif[/img] I guess this would be considered spam..but hey, if people are being hurt at certain types of events, maybe they deserve to be protected from such dangers?

MILAMBER 05-26-2002 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Melusine:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MILAMBER:
I really don't think that Hunter meant that they actually deserved to die. It seemed to me that he was joking, and if that is the case we should probably cut him a little slack.

I don't think making jokes about people who get hurt or die are funny, not in this way. Being crushed to death in a crowd is a terrible way to die and not as rare as you think. Can I make jokes about 9/11 then? Not that I'd even want to... but maybe that demonstrates my point.</font>[/QUOTE]I don't want to get into a big debate here, but I believe that sarcasm can be used to make light of an aspect of a situation without attacking the situation as a whole. I believe Hunter was making light of their musical preferences, not the fact that they died.

I'm not trying to take sides here, and I certainly don't think that it's funny that people die that way, but I believe there can be comedy in almost any situation, it just depends on how you look at things.

MagiK 05-26-2002 09:31 PM

I agree with Milamber.

/)eathKiller 05-26-2002 09:55 PM

Well that's all the more reason to get rid of artists like that and get some real music back onto the stage and into people's homes, not this crap that big industries are trying to sell >_<

Lord of Alcohol 05-26-2002 10:04 PM

You would think they would have learned after 8(?) people were killed in Cincinatti trying to get good seats at a Who concert. Guess not.
Larry, I guess your ready for Ozfest then? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Larry_OHF 05-26-2002 10:39 PM

<font color=skyblue> I would definatly go if:

1)You did not pass out from being drunk and leave me to fend for myself...(Can I bring my sword?)

2)If Karen would ever let me, which she would not. :(
She does not want to raise the child alone. This has been potty-training week...and er..well...mommies hate babies during potty training...especially the first week or two. I am her only support.</font>

Larry_OHF 05-26-2002 10:47 PM

<font color=skyblue>Let me post my concert experiences. I went to the Metallica/Suicidal Tendancies/Alice in Chains Concert and we had rows of chairs to sit on. Nobody could really jump around because of them. The only trouble we had was that the people outside the dome were getting rained on and began to throw cups full of mud at us on the inside. I was so far near the front that none got near me. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I went to a Candlebox Concert that was open floor, where you could stand wherever you wanted. Me and a friend made it to the front and held onto the bars while people tried to get our places by pulling us away. But nobody could make me budge. A fight broke out behind us, and the band stopped singing and refused to start again until the two men were escorted by security outside. Everyone was warned that if another fight started...the band would walk off-stage. I liked their concern and care for the well-being of us all. That is bad publicity, at least.</font>

caleb 05-27-2002 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by /)eathKiller:
Well that's all the more reason to get rid of artists like that and get some real music back onto the stage and into people's homes, not this crap that big industries are trying to sell >_<
Really what "real" music would you have us listen to then? :rolleyes:


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