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SecretMaster 05-04-2002 11:24 AM

In the ending act, who are those people after you see Irenicus die. I'm thinking its the guys at Candlekeep, cuz one of them sounds like Tethtoril from Candlekeep.

Lanthir 05-04-2002 11:53 AM

spoiler

UM i think cowled wizards

Ar-Cunin 05-04-2002 11:58 AM

I have heard that they are supposed to be the other bhaal-spawn

Although Yaga Shura couldn't have been present :D

daan 05-04-2002 12:14 PM

Question's been asked a few times now ...
But i keep forgetting the answers, or suggestions rather, nobody seems to now for sure :(
Anywayz, one nice option was that they were Bhaal-priests,
another guy had an even nicer sounding theorie, but i forgot that one
Anywayz, i kinda like the bhaal-priests idea, sounds good enough [img]smile.gif[/img]

Hope it helpz [img]smile.gif[/img]

Memnoch 05-04-2002 12:35 PM

Weeeelllll....

I've got my own ideas, but I wouldn't want to sway anyone's thinking here. :D

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I would say that it would be the Five from ToB, excluding the oversized one, and including the one who brought them all together. That's my theory. ;)

Sir Goulum 05-04-2002 01:00 PM

<font color=Orange>I could ask my neighbour if you guys want. He worked on the game!</font>

daan 05-04-2002 01:16 PM

yay ! , plz do indeed sir Goulum :D

Sir Exxon 05-04-2002 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Goulum:
<font color=Orange>I could ask my neighbour if you guys want. He worked on the game!</font>
<font color="gold">Really? That's just overly cool! :D [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

tom the strong wizzard 05-04-2002 03:17 PM

they ARE the cowled wizzard and gorrion was one 2 couz the called his name in the meeting but does any1 know what kind of class the are :confused: i think the are conjurers

[img]graemlins/starwars.gif[/img]

SecretMaster 05-04-2002 05:31 PM

How did you find out Gorrion was a Cowled Wizard?

andrewas 05-04-2002 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by tom the strong wizzard:
they ARE the cowled wizzard and gorrion was one 2 couz the called his name in the meeting but does any1 know what kind of class the are :confused: i think the are conjurers

[img]graemlins/starwars.gif[/img]

They called the character "Gorions Ward". This does not indicate the Gorion was a member. Besides, why whould Cowled Wizards (who're all dead by this point unless theyve been _real_ nice to me) have a symbol of bhaal on the table.

Its jsut struck me - didnt the twisted rune have a round table with a bhaal symbol on it? Ill go back and check on that.

Iluvatar Oakenshield 05-04-2002 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by tom the strong wizzard:
they ARE the cowled wizzard and gorrion was one 2 couz the called his name in the meeting but does any1 know what kind of class the are :confused: i think the are conjurers

[img]graemlins/starwars.gif[/img]

Do you really think so? As far as I know the only time Gorion is being mentioned in the endgame is when one one of the dudes says: "Gorion's ward has become too powerful..." They only use his name because they cannot refer to the name of your character, obviously. So I don't think Gorion was a cowled wizard (at least not based on that conversation) Oh and by the way I don't even think are cowled wizards at all, because as far as I know, they're all dead :D

SixOfSpades 05-04-2002 08:42 PM

IIRC, there were seven of them seated around that table, and all of the faces we saw were male. They could very well be Cowled Wizards, except that the Cowls have no link with Bhaal (that we know of, anyway), and their disquiet/fear/hostility from Gorion's Ward becoming too powerful would only make sense IF Gorion's Ward is a caster of Wizard spells--which He/She frequently isn't.

Priests of Bhaal? More likely. They don't even have to be connected with the Five at all--perhaps they're working against the Five, and hope to gain favor at Bhaal's rising by being in charge of the ritual exectution of his children. If I were any stupid enough to be working against Gorion's Ward, I'd be peeing my pants, too. The guys who made the end movie probably made the dudes look more like the Cowled Wizards in order to make you cower in fear (yeah, right) that the Cowls were plotting their revenge.

Gothmog, Lord of Balrogs 05-04-2002 10:57 PM

yep, seven faces, all male, none big, all human. doesn't really match the Five, or the mean lady :(

solution:

the end movie was made before ToB came out. they needed something to give the appearance that the saga was not over, so they threw together some dudes to make it ominous. they expanded and revised the concept for ToB, but couldn't change the movie once the game had been released. minor discrepancies always arise when you mess with revisionist history. (i.e. the Star Wars problems with Eps I/II vs. IV-VI, anyone?)

dragon_lord 05-04-2002 11:19 PM

I think the hooded figures at the end of the game could be Harpers. "Gorions ward has become to strong.." would mean that they are worried that the player character may up set the balance and must be dealt with. If i remember correctly Gorion was a Harper as well so it makes sense that they would refer to the player character as "Gorions Ward".

andrewas 05-05-2002 07:20 AM

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Originally posted by dragon_lord:
I think the hooded figures at the end of the game could be Harpers. "Gorions ward has become to strong.." would mean that they are worried that the player character may up set the balance and must be dealt with. If i remember correctly Gorion was a Harper as well so it makes sense that they would refer to the player character as "Gorions Ward".
Harpers still woudnt have the bhaal symbol. Im with gothmog on this one.


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