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johnny 05-07-2002 09:12 PM

well, it all starts in a few weeks, and i was just curious on other peoples opinions about who will be the next world champions. Personally i think france and argentina have the best teams, but i'll be cheering for england since holland are no contenders (which is a bloody shame btw )

Epona 05-07-2002 09:19 PM

Well I really hope that England gets nowhere fast - nothing I hate more than the streets full of St George's flags and the sound of people yelling 'Eng-er-land, Eng-er-land' at 2am in the morning :rolleyes: I'll happily cheer on someone else though LOL.

johnny 05-07-2002 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
Well I really hope that England gets nowhere fast - nothing I hate more than the streets full of St George's flags and the sound of people yelling 'Eng-er-land, Eng-er-land' at 2am in the morning :rolleyes: I'll happily cheer on someone else though LOL.
really ? Wouldn't you want them to become world champions ?

Epona 05-07-2002 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
really ? Wouldn't you want them to become world champions ?
No!

johnny 05-07-2002 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
really ? Wouldn't you want them to become world champions ?

No!</font>[/QUOTE]why not ? Because they keep you out of your sleep ?

Epona 05-07-2002 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by johnny:
why not ? Because they keep you out of your sleep ?
No, because I've seen people get beaten up on the street for not being English.

johnny 05-07-2002 10:17 PM

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Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
why not ? Because they keep you out of your sleep ?

No, because I've seen people get beaten up on the street for not being English.</font>[/QUOTE]oh, in that case i understand. For a moment i thougt you were drunk lol

norompanlasolas 05-08-2002 05:51 AM

well, i think we (argentina) are going to be the champions if fifa doesnt f*** us up like they did in america '94...

italy and france are my other 2 candidates. i think brasil will flop miserably and spain and england always reach the quarters and then chicken out. my surprise candidate for the semis is ireland. a very good and very tough team to beat. the organisers (japan and corea) will barely make it the 8ths if they do at all.

oh, as an anecdote, im going to watch the england vs argentina game in the first round with a very fanatic english friend of mine (plus 2 more args and a couple spanish). its going to be fun! :D

thats it i guess. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Epona 05-08-2002 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by johnny:
oh, in that case i understand. For a moment i thougt you were drunk lol
Well I was, and now I'm hungover, but that is still my view when sober lol! Unfortunately a small minority of thugs spoil it for the rest of us. I also don't like seeing English fans rampaging across the world spreading destruction in their wake (again a tiny minority).

Ar-Cunin 05-08-2002 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by norompanlasolas:
well, i think we (argentina) are going to be the champions if fifa doesnt f*** us up like they did in america '94...


Are you referring to Maradona being banned for using doping?

Of course he should be banned - as shall anybody else that using performance enhancing drugs. :mad:

"Hand of God" - my foot (just my opinion of him)

EDIT: And of course I'll be cheering for Denmark

[ 05-08-2002, 07:14 AM: Message edited by: Ar-Cunin ]

johnny 05-08-2002 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
oh, in that case i understand. For a moment i thougt you were drunk lol

Well I was, and now I'm hungover, but that is still my view when sober lol! Unfortunately a small minority of thugs spoil it for the rest of us. I also don't like seeing English fans rampaging across the world spreading destruction in their wake (again a tiny minority).</font>[/QUOTE]i don't think it would be wise of them to try that in japan. Haven't you heard on the news ? Japanese policeofficers will be equiped with samurai blades to deal with hooligans. You don't wanna mess with these guys. lol

Downunda 05-08-2002 07:14 AM

Samurai blades! talk 'bout fear factor :D

norompanlasolas 05-08-2002 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by Ar-Cunin:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by norompanlasolas:
well, i think we (argentina) are going to be the champions if fifa doesnt f*** us up like they did in america '94...


Are you referring to Maradona being banned for using doping?

Of course he should be banned - as shall anybody else that using performance enhancing drugs. :mad:

"Hand of God" - my foot (just my opinion of him)

EDIT: And of course I'll be cheering for Denmark
</font>[/QUOTE]lol... you dont know what youre getting into arcunin, discussing football with an argentinian... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

regarding maradonas doping, what they found was traces of an estimulant found ONLY in certain drugs for curing colds (perfectly legal) that sell only in america. they are not considered doping there and almost anywhere except by fifa. his personal phsyio made the mistake as he didnt know the composition. it didnt affect perfomance, or anything else by that matter. what a coincidence that both maradona and caniggia were selected to be probed in the 2nd game...

and maradonas goal against the english in '86, the first was with the hand of god, but the second should have been worth double, so we wouldve won anyways. :D

Donut 05-08-2002 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
Well I really hope that England gets nowhere fast - nothing I hate more than the streets full of St George's flags and the sound of people yelling 'Eng-er-land, Eng-er-land' at 2am in the morning :rolleyes: I'll happily cheer on someone else though LOL.
<H1>Eng-er-land!
Eng-er-land!
Eng-er-land!</H1>

Get with it Epona you old grouch! [img]smile.gif[/img]
Football's coming home!

Ar-Cunin 05-08-2002 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by norompanlasolas:

and maradonas goal against the english in '86, the first was with the hand of god, but the second should have been worth double, so we wouldve won anyways. :D
You're right about nr. 2 - it was a gem [img]smile.gif[/img]

BtW - I'm always ready to discuss football :D

Donut 05-08-2002 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
why not ? Because they keep you out of your sleep ?

No, because I've seen people get beaten up on the street for not being English.</font>[/QUOTE]This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.

Helspanth 05-08-2002 07:44 AM

I think that Argentina has the best team.
I really hope they get far this time!
What makes me a little sad is that Greece once again didn't manage to qualify...

norompanlasolas 05-08-2002 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by johnny:
why not ? Because they keep you out of your sleep ?

No, because I've seen people get beaten up on the street for not being English.</font>[/QUOTE]This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.</font>[/QUOTE]reminder: do not travel to england after the world cup.

Epona 05-08-2002 07:51 AM

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Originally posted by Donut:
This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.
So I should hope that England win, to pacify the small number of mindless thugs and keep them happy? No thanks!

Lanesra 05-08-2002 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.

So I should hope that England win, to pacify the small number of mindless thugs and keep them happy? No thanks!</font>[/QUOTE]I hope England win ,and I'll wave my St George flag proudly,sing ENG-ER-LAND at the top of my voice ,not because I'm a football hooligan, or a racist, but because I want to see my country win the biggest football tournament that exists.

Why don't people have a problem with Welsh , Scottish & Irish waving flags ,don't these people have a hooligan problem ? I think if you look at what happend in N Irlend after the Rangers v Celtic game & in Cardiff after the Leeds game You'll see they do.

I've just asked the 12 people I work with , they all want England to win ,I consider none of them to be mindless thugs.

Donut 05-08-2002 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.

So I should hope that England win, to pacify the small number of mindless thugs and keep them happy? No thanks!</font>[/QUOTE]No. You can hope that they win to please the 99% of us football supporters who don't cause trouble.

That way everyone is happy!!! :D

Epona 05-08-2002 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanesra:
I hope England win ,and I'll wave my St George flag proudly,sing ENG-ER-LAND at the top of my voice ,not because I'm a football hooligan, or a racist, but because I want to see my country win the biggest football tournament that exists.

Why don't people have a problem with Welsh , Scottish & Irish waving flags ,don't these people have a hooligan problem ? I think if you look at what happend in N Irlend after the Rangers v Celtic game & in Cardiff after the Leeds game You'll see they do.

I've just asked the 12 people I work with , they all want England to win ,I consider none of them to be mindless thugs.

Calm down mate - now where did I say that anyone who wanted England to win was a mindless thug? I didn't ;) And I certainly didn't call you racist, that would be ridiculous, so leave that out of it [img]tongue.gif[/img] ;)

About other nationalities waving flags? Yep, not keen on that either.

You go ahead and enjoy yourself, I just find that round where I live the atmosphere gets very tense in a negative way during the World Cup, so I can't gain a lot from it myself. I wouldn't want to spoil anyone's fun, but I'll support or not support whichever country I like thank you. [img]tongue.gif[/img] My choice.

[ 05-08-2002, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: Epona ]

Davros 05-08-2002 09:57 AM

Aussie Aussie Aussie :D

Whoops...... wrong thread -

Oh flower of Scotland...

Damn, they didn't make it either -

Looks like I will be barracking for Moiraine's Mob again this time around ;) .

Lanesra 05-08-2002 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.

So I should hope that England win, to pacify the small number of mindless thugs and keep them happy? No thanks!</font>[/QUOTE]I'll be happy so will millions of others how are we a small number? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Epona 05-08-2002 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lanesra:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Epona:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Donut:
This is far more unlikely to happen if we win it.

So I should hope that England win, to pacify the small number of mindless thugs and keep them happy? No thanks!</font>[/QUOTE]I'll be happy so will millions of others how are we a small number? [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]Stop twisting my words [img]tongue.gif[/img] You know damn well that's not what I meant. Whoever wins will make millions happy somewhere in the world! :D I already said I hope you enjoy yourself, that is a sincere wish on my part - but I'm just not excited about it myself. Let it be now, eh? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Davros 05-08-2002 10:37 AM

"Space", says the Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, "is big. Really big. Like you might think it's a long way down the road to the Chemists, but that's just peanuts to space........"

Don't know why I said that really - there seemed to be some point to it at the time......

GO THE GUNNERS - Freddie's my hero.

johnny 05-08-2002 10:45 AM

strange that i've seen nobody so far who said germany will win, they might not have the most talented team but they are always an outsider for the title at the least.

Ar-Cunin 05-08-2002 11:01 AM

How does that saying go??

- Oh yes - football is a game played by 22 players kicking a ball around for 90 minutes. And in the end the Germans win ;) (well that roughly how it goes)

An exeption to this 'rule' - the 1992 European championship final

<h1> Denmark 2 - Germany 0


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