Its no wonder I call myself the LastTruePrincess lol...my family reigns when it comes to dysfunctionality! (Is that even a word lol?)

They say people estranged from their familes usually have emotional/mental problems but I swear! 40 years of trying to be anything resembling a family with the people I am related by blood to has been proven time and time again not just to be vain but also completely stupid. I'll end up a basket case if I keep trying.

Someone kick me in the ass and threaten me with something horrible if I ever allow those backstabbing, gossiping, just downright evil people into my life again!

ummmm ok... trying to think of something horrible to threaten Moni with! :D ...How about, if you ever let those backstabbing, gossiping, just downright evil people into your life again then you will never be allowed back to IW ;) j/k

Sounds like you're not too happy? I know that my family pisses me off from time to time but it doesn't sound anywhere near as bad as yours. - no offense intended [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-23-2002, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Downunda ]

Two words Moni-Assault rifle. Kill them. They must die. Go ahead and shoot me too fuckit

Whats wrong dude? :( - you're not usually like this! sounds like you need an ice cold beer, some nachoes, dip and a good movie on the box.

Sounds like your family upset you again. Don't worry, if you start softening toward them again we'll remind you about this and how much you hate them for your own good. [img]smile.gif[/img] My family's not that screwed up, but they do the same things pretty much, so I can relate to you on some things. How about this: if you think about letting them back into your life, we'll threaten to send you back to your mom's house? ;)

Downunda,
No offense taken! Seriously...they are tops!
If I tried to take time to type it all out, we'd all get old waiting on me to be finished!

I am a little upset right now...my evil mother played on my evil but emotionally fragile sister to get to me...well I had to answer to the evil but emotionally fragile sister and tell her that our mother sux and she knows it...that I don't play those games and I don't want to be involved in them anymore, I am just not in the best health right now and I've NEVER been in the mood!

I hurt her feelings I am sure. :( But from the questions she was asking me (stuff only me and my mom have talked about recently) and the remarks she made about her and my mom having talked earlier, I was able to see our mom's manipulation in her e-mail to me...(Mom e-mailed me last week and I was nice to her even though she had intended to hurt me with the things she said).
If my mom wants info she can call me directly for it. Will she? No.
Do I care? No, I've known the woman long enough to have learned how to let her evil fly by's leave me unharmed and unscarred, but now she brought in my sister and my sister plays her game when she gets something out of it...mommy's love. Who needs a mother's love when it is built on hating other people?

Hurting me right now is the prize up for grabs but killing me through an e-mail of all things just ain't gonna happen so I told her "I Love You and I hate to feel like I need to sever my ties with you, but I never hear from you and now that I do, it is because mom sent you to drill me for info. It makes me feel like sh*t and I'd rather not be exposed to such heartache, I am in bad enough shape as it is."

Which I am...I don't need it I never did and I never will.

I just feel bad for my sister now because she is (pardon me for saying it) stupid enough to take it all personally and damn our mom, she'll make my sister feel even worse about herself and me when the two of them talk again.
I don't even want to answer their e-mails anymore. I am not going to sugar coat the truth and pretend everything is OK when it will never be.

LOL This is a good one! ;)

Seriously, I am going to print out all the great replies in a pretty and colorful font and hang them on my wall as a reminder. :D

I have a wonderful family here in Texas who have adopted me as one of their own...they are good people...people of my own heart...I am happy where I am and without my "relatives" chiming in once or twice a year to cause me misery. I can't let it go on any longer.

Argh edited for typos and to add things left unsaid that left this post as unclear as it still is lol

[ 04-23-2002, 11:46 PM: Message edited by: Moni ]

Damn man that's harsh!!!! LMAO Cody! Oh crap! It still hurts to laugh! Oh My!! Ow!

I think I'll put that one at the TOP of the list!!!

I don't hate them, I'll never be able to hate them and not because they are family because "family" don't mean squat to any of them...I love them because they are...the same way I love people I don't know.
(But I do know these people and I feel sorry for them. They are lost in self serving hate and greed. How much worse off could they be without being murderers and rapists?)

I don't get along much with my family either, so don't feel alone. My parents told me a few years ago they were "sorry" they shouldn't have "had a child" weren't "parent material". But they found religion and learned it's not how you feel, but how you act. :rolleyes:

Gee thanks.

Blood may be thicker than water? But it's not thicker than love. Stick with those in your life who truly care, and don't worry about those who don't, no matter the relation, tis what I say anyway. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It sounds to me like you handled the problem as best you could Moni, and I'm sure that your sister must know what your mother is like (even if she doesn't want to admit it) so she'll come round...
it's times like this that remind me of the saying "she'll be right mate" ;) and I'm sure she will be. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I gave that idea serious consideration between the ages of 15 and 17.
I decided they aren't worth it.
Neither are you. ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Besides we need you here to be our resident drunk and smart-ass.

Seriously though, are you OK?
*hugs*
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My family is pretty much dysfunctional, but we sorta get along. As long as we're not all in the smae state.

Edit-Moni I wasnt suggesting I was mad at you or you at me-just a bad day

Downunda-Thanks for saying something, your a good guy

[ 04-23-2002, 10:53 PM: Message edited by: Lord of Alcohol ]

I hope you don't end up having to deal with this again... hmm... if you ever let those backstabbing, gossiping, just downright evil people into your life again, then I shall have to poke thee repeatedly with my Paper Dagger of Death +90. ;) :D Or maybe just with my finger. [img]smile.gif[/img] Happy happyness to you, Moni! [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

That's so true. Is love really worth alienating other people and spreading hate? I don't think that you can exchange one for the other. Good to hear you found a group of kindred spirits to share your life with, there's no need for anyone to have to endure what your family must do for their whole life.

Thanks Downunda. [img]smile.gif[/img]
I know my sister knows and I know she'll come around....its a cycle that I have just had enough of. They are going to try to make me feel bad for making her feel bad and expect me to do all the apologizing to make everything better because as far as they see it, they never did anything wrong.
They need a new game.
My mother's ultimate goal is to make me hate. She never learns its not going to happen so her second strategy is to make me hurt...well she can't hurt me either so then she has one of my siblings do it for her in return for her adoration. Its sick. Its old. Game Over. We all lose.

Ladyzekke & LoA,
HUGS to you both and thank you for letting me know I am not all alone out here. Its a shame we all can't be part of the ideal family where love and respect matters. I love you both and I hope you believe that...I know we've had our rough spots but we've had far more fun I think and I hope that all the good we can share together can continue for a long time to come.
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P.S. LoA,
We all live in separate states! That is one of the biggest kickers to the whole Let's mess with Moni game...you can't get away from them! A friend I thought I could trust gave them my (main) e-mail addie and phone number! Thank goodness they don't call lol and that I have managed to keep where I live a secret or they'd be on my doorstep with this crap!

[ 04-23-2002, 11:39 PM: Message edited by: Moni ]

Thank you and thank you for adding to my list!
That one ought to look great in a bloody font, done up in BLOOD RED don't you think?! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
:D

Moni...

I'm always so sorry to hear about this. PLEASE don't let it upset you, I'm still thinking about your heart... [img]smile.gif[/img]

My mother always said: "Good friends are the family you CHOOSE..."

So, I am GLAD that you and I (and all of IronWorks) will always be family.

Jo and I want to come down and meet with you. I'm looking forward to it!

Email me your phone # ( rudedawg@earthlink.net ), and I'll call you to make plans. :D

Thank you Rudy [img]smile.gif[/img]
Yeah, my heart has been giving me trouble all day...the last thing I needed was to have to hurt my sister's feelings and know what a ruckus it is going to cause with her, my mom, and the other siblings on the (game) board. I wanted to cry about it when I did convince myself to send her the truth...to not answer would only prolong the agony for all of us but so does playing along. I can't though. I know its my mom's game and some sacrifices are going to have to be made if I am going to be rid of it. I love my sister and I can easily be drawn into keeping her in my life...but then there are those days like today when I haven't heard from her for months and she makes an appearance through an e-mail with absolutely ridiculous excuses why she hasn't been in touch with me that are contradicted by everything else she has to say about what is going on in her life and then she says she cares so much while she's doing mom's dirty work.
*sigh* This is when I feel like all the caring she ever pretends to have is just that...pretend. That or she is as nuts as my dad and aunt said she is and I'm dealing with a person who has a multi-personality disorder. Either way, my health is not up to it, I've been through it enough times to know it will only get worse if I don't stop it now. I'm not going to cry...she's got her *cough* family to make her feel better and I know from experience that I feel better when they all just stay away from me.

Hey, you need to add to my list of horrible threats LOL

P.S. I just wanted to add that I am very happy to be part of IW's family. :D This place rocks. :D

[ 04-24-2002, 12:28 AM: Message edited by: Moni ]

Families can be bitches huh? My grandmother treated, and still treats my mum like dirt. She's reasonably mean to one of mum's sisters as well, but the other two are her favourites. The other day she called mum because she thought her youngest daughter might be at our house - she didn't even pretend she was calling to talk to mum :( . And even though she's used to it, and expects it, it still hurts her after 50 years. It makes you wonder what you've done wrong, and whether you're a horrible person or something, why your own mother doesn't love you.

I hope it doesn't make you too sad, Moni [img]smile.gif[/img] . Hmm, how about if I threaten to take Sugar home with me if you let them upset you again? ;)

I am glad my mom love me and i have no problems with the family so i am sorry Moni abouth your problems with your mom i think you have to get on a hollyday weekend som where and cool it down i think of your heart problem take some time off and enjoy the life by your self because the life is SO nice!
Maby i have a little problem here with the family they are angry on me because i dident want to go to my ant`s 80 year`s celebration party
because i had some problems here by my ovn this day and they call and send me letter to say i am an bad guy because i didn`t show up in this party....but what the ■■■■ (sorry about that one) when i dont feel to go why must they react like this?? And my ant call my on an late eavning and say she hated my because i dont show up and crying in the phone and say i am onlo 80 year one time so i could go to here party because of that.. i feel So bad about my self not to go when she is crying that bad... :( !
I should writing some more but i cant say what i meen so good in english sorry! :D

[ 04-24-2002, 12:51 AM: Message edited by: Megabot ]

Hi there Moni, too bad about your family, but of course there will NEVER be anyone else who is able to get in digs like family, they know where all the buttons are located....*yuck*

Here is my horrible, awful, death is preferred as an alternative punishment should (when!) you let the karma-sucking leeches back in for another nip of psychic blood.......hold yr breath....

If you let them back in, directions to your current place of residence will be mysteriously mailed to them so they can FIND YOU IN PERSON!!!!!!!BWHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :D
btw, where did you say you lived now????????? [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-24-2002, 12:44 AM: Message edited by: J.J. ]

Aelia Jusa,
That is a definite horrible threat!
Its on the list! :D

I learned many years ago that I am just fine the way I am and that my mother has some serious issues (starting with I am the only one of her kids that looks "just like" my dad...she has used that against me all my life, but I don't mind 'cause my dad was a good looking man LOL) She did manage to make my childhood and teen years a living hell and I grew up thinking it was me but once the full picture came into focus, she got really ugly inside. She's horrible enough to be nicknamed Satan's advisor and she has earned the title.
I love her in spite of herself and I think that is what pisses her off the most.

Megabot,
You are so sweet!
Don't worry about me, I am going to be OK!
I just needed to rant!
This thread should serve as inspiration to people who think their families are bad LOL...my family make them look like pretty nice people after all! ;)

I am glad that you and your mom have a good relationship. My son and I are best friends and I feel very blessed...I could have easily turned out like my mom!

School is out in two weeks and I'll have at least a month to just kick back and enjoy doing nothing. [img]smile.gif[/img] Like I said, I am going to be OK!
*HUGS*
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LOL! Hey this is fun!
I can't wait to put them all on a banner across the wall in front of my desk!

I'm really sorry that you have to deal with family like that too! :(
It really sux huh?
*HUGS*
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On a lighter note...
I had to invent the off switches for my buttons...I am hoping that tonight is the last off switch I'll ever have to make cause I'll never be able to get a good tan with all these switches/buttons on me! ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I would think the continued suffering caused by prolonged exposure to these people would be enough to disuade you [img]smile.gif[/img]
Pretty much the best deterrant from meeting with such people are the people themselves. I should remember that the next time I try to hook up with a certain few "friends"..

My family isn't THAT bad, though a few of them are, or perhaps I'm just not noticing it yet. But I don't get along with my family either, except for a couple of my cousins I really can't stand most of them since they treat me pretty unpleasantly.

They always expect me to be unable to do ANYTHING on my own, whenever ANYTHING goes wrong at home my father blames ME first and looks at what's wrong afterwards. They don't respect me at all :(

Don't let it get to you though Moni, you've got friends [img]smile.gif[/img]

A threat to keep you from doing that, eh? How about: We'll tie you to a chair and force you to listen to Britney Spears and other shitty pop until your brain melts and runs out your ears [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Well Moni, I don't really know what to tell you. To be completely honest I don't really know much of my family very well. I know a couple of cousins, my uncles and aunts, and that's about it. Everybody else gets on my nerves and is usually ignored. My brother and sister can be cool, but I always felt like i'll never be what my parents want me to. *Thank you mom and dad* :rolleyes: Well enough about me.

Moni you seem to have made up your mind already on what you plan to do. If your mom is such a b*tch, don't bother wasting talking to her. A person like that isn't worth your time at all. Your sister is a different story. Maybe you can talk a little bit of sense to her? It's worth a try. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Oh you wanted a threat? Well I could send my personal hitman to chat with you. [img]tongue.gif[/img] He could come up with something i'm to innocent.

You are wise beyond your years! Thank you! That one gets a page all its own :D

Wow that is a pretty harsh reaction coming from an 80 year old woman!
Maybe she is afraid she won't make it to her next birthday and thought herself important enough that everyone should be there, no excuses allowed?
I'd call her after she cools off and try to explain why you weren't there with her on her birthday...follow that up with a visit and a gift or flowers?

Ugh, my mom was the same way...she'd punish me for stuff I didn't do and tell me sometimes "Well you would do it so consider this punishment in advance...and don't expect that this means you'll go unpunished when you actually do it"
Great Logic there

Love your threat LOL!

Well I got an e-mail from my sister today and I opened it out of morbid curiosity lol...she said everything I expected her to and more.
She's mad at me and honestly, I think this time I'd prefer to leave it that way...I mean I wrote her back and tols her I was sorry she had to be mad at me about it...that she should be taking her problem with the whole situation up with mom since mom is the one who got her into it but I'd rather that she just wrote me off completely and stayed out of my life if it has to keep coming around to her and mom vs me.

I'll be fine without them I've been doing it for more years since I left home than I've had them around if you can understand what I just said lol.
:D :D :D :D :D :D

Hey Moni, you should speak to my wife.

Here's her story:

1- Mom: Had four babies by the time she was 28 from 2 different husband. Currently calls my wife 3-7 times a day and expect conversations to last anywhere from 1-3 hours each time!
2- Dad (blood related): big time looser, kidnaped my wife (and her sister) at axe point when she was like 2. Caused my mother in law to divorce him and move away 2000 km. My wife saw him once since but to no avail [img]smile.gif[/img]
3- Dad (adoptive): farmer. Racked up over 100,000$ Can (12.95US) in personnal debts without telling his wife. Died in a car accident when he was 38. No life insurance to cover the debts.
4- Grand-father(adoptive): took out a life insurance policy of 200,000 dollars on his son. When son died, collected the insurance policy and came knocking on his widowed daughter-in-law to collect a 75,000$ loan... nice isn't it!
5- My wife: perfect woman with a brain
6- Sister: Two years younger than my wife. Threathened to send the Hells Angels (big killers/biker gang) to wipe her mother. Stormed into her mother and threathen to beat the crap out of her. Suffers from a chemical imbalance. Totally oblivious to everyone but herself. Charge her two brothers over 1,500$ in rent a month when her rent on the property was less than 600$. (my wife doesn't speak to her anymore)
7- Brother 1: Five years younger than my wife. Criminal who thinks that no rules applied to him. He broke into his mother's house and stole her Nintendo, VCR and TV. Pawned it to finance drugs. Had warrant to his name and drove a vehicule without plates or license. Got stopped by the cops. When ask to give is name, he said John Doe [img]smile.gif[/img] ... cops bagged him! Proposed to his girlfriend in jail.
8- Brother 2: Seven years youger than my wife. Father to a girl who isn't his. Got lead to believe he was the father even though he didn't sleep with the girl within 11 months of delivery! Now knows he's not the real dad but still maintains an active role in his daughter's life (commandible). The actual dad was the mom's step brother. Now, he's saying that he'll take on her daughter sibbling should the mother become pregnant again! He doesn't have a job.

9- My father: 78, ex-friar with the Catholic church. PhD in French Lit from the Sorbonne. Retired teacher. Had me (only child) when he was 51.
10- My mom: 55, retired flight attendant.
12- Me: 27, current (soon to be ex) military officer, out of a job next week, married, father of 2 (one 5 and on 3.5 months old)

Feel better? [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 04-25-2002, 12:37 AM: Message edited by: Ryanamur ]

No, you didn't threaten me! ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Your wife's family sounds as mastered in the art of violence and head games as mine. I really feel for her. Give her extra hugs tonight and include one from me.
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I won't even start to list the atrocities LOL...I have 10 siblings, 6 of them half brothers and sisters that range from Satan worshippers to decent, loving folk...more of the 10 are bad than good...its just the ones that hang with my mom that have caused me the most grief, mainly because we four had the same father and my mother labeled him as the source of all the misery she ever suffered in her life (even though it was she who used and abused his love for her). Never did help me any to look like him (except to give me something to be thankful for). ;) [img]smile.gif[/img] You think they'd take a hint from her kids who prefer not to have anything to do with her but she is a multi-millionaire via a state lottery now and they want a piece of the pie when she dies.
I am positive she is destined to outlive me...it'll keep me out of hell if I am not given the opportunity to dance on her grave and God knows I would...I just wouldn't be able to help myself. ;) Even if she did go before me, I'd not take a cent of her money...its tainted with pure evil lol.
(I do have a full-blood-related younger brother that I get along fine with but even he gets wasted every now and then and calls the other two and tells them all my business...one of the reasons no one has my street address ;) )