I remember a time when American music cable channels used to play wall to wall music videos. Now, one can turn on MTV or VH1 and for hourse not see a music video at all. "Rockumentaries", Reality TV, contests galore. Oh, and if there is a video, chances are there will be annoying 'plops' the whole way through it - LOUDER THAN THE MUSIC!!!!

I mean what the Fa..hatma Ghandi??

the simple truth is, that apparantly to these channels music videos are no longer profitable. therefore, they fall in with the extremly stupid reality show fad, among other things, since apparantly they had to come up with other ways of brainwashing this country's youth that being cool is the most important thing in life about when good ideas for music videos became few and far between.

i stopped watching mtv when they stopped running beavis and butthead.lol.it was their most intelligent show.you can get videos on the other mtv channels.like the x,or whatever it's called.the original mtv only wants to play spears,nsynch,and the back street boys.now i could watch britney spears all day,i'd just keep the sound down.but i couldn't stomach the rest of the stuff.

you are so right yoric, i've been saying that for years.
we used to say "I want my MTV"
now i say "I want my MTV back"

I think I have about 15 music channels (some American, some UK) and all the scheduled channels are the same - you are channel-hopping and get ads, ads, ads, ads, ads, real TV, ads, ads, real TV rerun....

The request channels are not much better, since the only people who seem to use them are bored teens who request the same songs and bands over and over :rolleyes:

I would really like to see some innovative music channels.

Get satellite. :D

We have a large variety of music channels from MTVX (more videos as opposed to more junk food for the mindless), Country, Adult Contemporary, R&B and a slew of channels with no videos...Hard Rock, Alternative, Retro Disco (LOL), Blues, Jazz, Acid Jazz :eek: lol, Gospel, Reggae, Country, Classical, Easy Listening, Opera, Big Band/Swing, Children's music...you name it.

I quit watching MTV in the eighties..same old videos over and over again...may as well have had the top forty station on the radio playing 24-7. ;)

Exactly. Instead of 'Behind the music' documentaries, why not show 'all the music' from that artist. An musician artist does express themselves...er... through their MUSIC. ;)

If I hear that bloody BTM announcers voice again I'll puke!

There is so much music in the world, and so much that doesn't see the light of day, it's not like they'll run out of videos.

When I was last signed to a major, if I went into the company I would pass by piles and piles of music that never took off. Videos, albums.

Aussie radio stations were presented with over fifty new songs a week. Radio would only add one or two.

And that's just in English speaking Australia. We're not even counting the rest of the world yet.

Sadly its all about the money. The few borded teens who are intent on watching MTV dont care about the music.

Now I must say I watch VH1 somtime, I watch behind the music alot, well the ones I havent seen over and over. Its a good show, IMO. But yeah for the most part your right Yorrick.

But like Moni said, get satelitle. I get MTV, MTV2 witch is a decent chanel that claims it be "24 hours of music Veidos" but they are starting to change a bit. I also get VH1 and a caindain channel called MuchMusic.

As well as other channels that dont show veidos, just music. There is a bloody ton of them.

Channel X (whatever that supouse to mean.) Dance, Metal, Alternivtive, Classic Rock, Rock Hits, Hit List, Jazz, Blues, Light Jazz, classic, Light Classic, New Country, Classic Country, among others. Its kina silly really.

I like VH1 much better. They atleast show some veidos. 95% of MTVs shows have nothing at all to do with music.

I agree, MTV is nothing like it used to be in the 70's and early 80's. Although I do enjoy some of their non-music shows.. But yeah, would rather see music since it is supposed to be a MUSIC CHANNEL! What really got me was one night when I turned MTV on and saw wrestling! Wha? Wrestling????? But that's not....that's already on another...why is it here...??? :rolleyes: [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ladyzekke:
I agree, MTV is nothing like it used to be in the 70's and early 80's. Although I do enjoy some of their non-music shows.. But yeah, would rather see music since it is supposed to be a MUSIC CHANNEL! What really got me was one night when I turned MTV on and saw wrestling! Wha? Wrestling????? But that's not....that's already on another...why is it here...??? :rolleyes: [img]tongue.gif[/img] <hr></blockquote>
LOL!!!

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Grand-Ranger:
Sadly its all about the money. The few borded teens who are intent on watching MTV dont care about the music.

Now I must say I watch VH1 somtime, I watch behind the music alot, well the ones I havent seen over and over. Its a good show, IMO. But yeah for the most part your right Yorrick.

But like Moni said, get satelitle. I get MTV, MTV2 witch is a decent chanel that claims it be "24 hours of music Veidos" but they are starting to change a bit. I also get VH1 and a caindain channel called MuchMusic.

As well as other channels that dont show veidos, just music. There is a bloody ton of them.

Channel X (whatever that supouse to mean.) Dance, Metal, Alternivtive, Classic Rock, Rock Hits, Hit List, Jazz, Blues, Light Jazz, classic, Light Classic, New Country, Classic Country, among others. Its kina silly really.

I like VH1 much better. They atleast show some veidos. 95% of MTVs shows have nothing at all to do with music.<hr></blockquote>

I agree - I get all those channels you mentioned (except Channel X which I've never heard of) - I have MTV, MTV2, MTV Hits, MTV Base, some other MTV channel, VH1, VH1 Classic, Q, Kerrang, Smash Hits, The Box, and some others too - and they are ALL bollocks. They are afflicted by loads and loads of advertising - in fact VH1 is the worst for that, I would say 10 minutes ads to every 15 mins music - that is NOT a good ratio. MTV2 is OK sometimes (the best of a bad bunch), but it has a VERY limited playlist so the same songs play over and over and over.

I'm sorry, but if anyone thinks that is good programming it just goes to show how easily you can get used to the mind-numbing stagnantion which is sadly prevalent on TV and radio. Where is the innovation? Where are the up and coming bands that no-one has heard of? Music channels are no worse IMHO than any other channel on TV - all channels are plagued by endless reruns, advertising, second rate films, cheap documentaries, even cheaper quiz-shows - I mean come on, lets try to get some imagination on the box instead of sitting in front of the glowing screen while our brains disintegrate and our creativity is stunted....

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I'm sorry, but if anyone thinks that is good programming it just goes to show how easily you can get used to the mind-numbing stagnantion which is sadly prevalent on TV and radio. Where is the innovation? Where are the up and coming bands that no-one has heard of? Music channels are no worse IMHO than any other channel on TV - all channels are plagued by endless reruns, advertising, second rate films, cheap documentaries, even cheaper quiz-shows - I mean come on, lets try to get some imagination on the box instead of sitting in front of the glowing screen while our brains disintegrate and our creativity is stunted....

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Amen and Bravo!

If only the underground music scene could actually surface...corporate profiteering would get washed out of the picture.

I was listening to ZROCK the day (and minute) it got pulled off the air (LOL an Awwww all in one breath ;) )...Alice in Chains was old news in my library by the time they made corporate airplay and my son had Greenday CD's a full year before the local radio stations had even heard of them.
I haven't found any underground connections since I have been in Texas, but if I do, I'll keep you all tuned in to what's going on and where the real varieties in your tastes can be found. :D Maybe we can find something on the net?!

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Moni:


Amen and Bravo!

If only the underground music scene could actually surface...corporate profiteering would get washed out of the picture.

I was listening to ZROCK the day (and minute) it got pulled off the air (LOL an Awwww all in one breath ;) )...Alice in Chains was old news in my library by the time they made corporate airplay and my son had Greenday CD's a full year before the local radio stations had even heard of them.
I haven't found any underground connections since I have been in Texas, but if I do, I'll keep you all tuned in to what's going on and where the real varieties in your tastes can be found. :D Maybe we can find something on the net?!<hr></blockquote>

Moni, I firmly believe that TV could be a wonderful thing! It is an excellent medium for all kinds of educational, informational, inspirational ideas - that never see the light of day! Radio tends to be better, simply because it is not beyond the realms of possibility for individuals or small groups of people to start a radio station and make their own shows - so there is more room for innovation, even if they few and far between.

The problem with TV is that the costs mean advertising is usually necessary - and if you are too controversial, or fail to go for the lowest common denominatior to win the ratings war, you don't get the advertising revenue because companies either won't spend the money advertising on your channel, or they don't want their product associated with you. I have to say that some of the best TV in the UK is on BBC - which is funded by the government through license fees (everyone has to pay £100 a year for a TV license) - and BBC documentaries, dramas, and comedy series have a good reputation the world over - simply because they are free of the concerns of the major advertisers. However, state TV may not always be the way to go, the BBC has to be careful not to be too controversial since it has a reputation to uphold and is a public service which could, in theory, have a negative impact on the state or the government of the day - or could go the other way and be seen to be propaganda. Although the BBC errs on both counts occassionally, it is the best of a bad bunch!!