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slackerboy 02-07-2002 04:30 PM

The GeForce4
http://gamespot.com/gshw/stories/fla...845978,00.html

MILAMBER 02-07-2002 04:33 PM

Mines on order... I picked up the Visiontek 4600. I should get it sometime next week.

BTW, if any of you want a slightly used GF3 TI500 I'm selling it for $200.00 It has ramsyncs and it runs stable at 275 mhz.

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Neb 02-07-2002 04:42 PM

*Drools* Must have..... *Begins walking zombie-like towards his nearest computer hardware store*

I've gotta get me one of these things some day soon.....

Blade 02-07-2002 05:32 PM

drooling here now if i got it what would i do with my current g-force 3 (non ti)? and i only have a 1.1GHz comp. so it wouldn't run optimaly. But still great cards, to bad its pointless to have such a high end card when no games optimize the card.

MagiK 02-07-2002 05:44 PM

Sounds good....but I have yet to find a game title to really stress my Hercules Prophet 3 GeForce3 card [img]smile.gif[/img]

MILAMBER 02-07-2002 05:56 PM

You can totally tell the difference in graphics quality. Especially if you turn FSAA on. The GF4 should be able to run FSAA on almost any game without dropping the frame rate too low.

Ziroc 02-07-2002 06:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slackerboy:
The GeForce4
http://gamespot.com/gshw/stories/fla...845978,00.html
<hr></blockquote>

Another Month, another Geforce.. ;) lol, I'd LOVE to own it, but it's WAY too $$$$!

Ezekial 02-07-2002 06:06 PM

Another GeForce..how long till you're all going.."Oh..GeForce 5" then 6 and 7..*sigh* Games development doesn't keep up with tech unfortunately...

Downunda 02-07-2002 06:18 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Ziroc:


Another Month, another Geforce.. ;) lol, I'd LOVE to own it, but it's WAY too $$$$!
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My thoughts exactly! ;)

Thoran 02-07-2002 06:23 PM

Looks to be 20% or so faster than a GF3Ti500, Good performance but not enough to get me to upgrade from my GF3... I'll be waiting for a card to hit 16000+ (madonion) before I get my wallet out again.

MILAMBER 02-07-2002 10:29 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Thoran:
Looks to be 20% or so faster than a GF3Ti500, Good performance but not enough to get me to upgrade from my GF3... I'll be waiting for a card to hit 16000+ (madonion) before I get my wallet out again.<hr></blockquote>

They got 12000 something with a radeon 8500 and a P4 2.2 Northwood overclocked to 3.7 Ghz.

Neb 02-08-2002 03:54 AM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MILAMBER:


They got 12000 something with a radeon 8500 and a P4 2.2 Northwood overclocked to 3.7 Ghz.
<hr></blockquote>

How the hell did they keep that thing from melting? Liquid Nitrogen cooling system?

WOLFGIR 02-08-2002 04:26 AM

Expansive??

Iīm glad I donīt live in US guys, the price nearly doubles when thoose little cards hits the european market. :(

A GeForce 4 Ti 200 costs rougley aroun 200$, in Sweden they will cost rougle 4000 Skr, there is 9-10 skr for one dollar..

Though a little warning. Donīt go get that GeForce 4 MX version. Itīs a cheap scape thing, doesnīt really have that much to do with the GeForce 4 chip at all. A hoax and it is worse then the cheapest GeForce3 Ti2000 series and it only supports DirectX7 so far..

Thoran 02-08-2002 01:49 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by MILAMBER:


They got 12000 something with a radeon 8500 and a P4 2.2 Northwood overclocked to 3.7 Ghz.
<hr></blockquote>

The 8500 is a nice card, competition is always a good thing. I paid $400 for my GF3 and as soon as the ATI card hit the market... poof the GF cards dropped in price by a LOT. [img]smile.gif[/img]

With that level of overclocking I expect they're cryo'ing that system... not a very realistic long-term setup (condensation will kill it in a hurry unless it's tuned PERFECTLY and insulated up the wazoo). I've got a liquid cooled rig that I think should get my Athlon 1700 to 2ghz in a sustainable configuration (no peltiers). Cooling the GPU and CPU I'm hoping for 10k out of madonion... should be fun experimenting at any rate.

MILAMBER 02-08-2002 02:00 PM

The one I'm talking about was liquid nigrogen.

I did see one that got 3.5 Ghz using oil. It was crazy, they actually had the computer submerged in a fishtank full of some kind of non-conductive oil.

MILAMBER 02-08-2002 02:03 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Thoran:


The 8500 is a nice card, competition is always a good thing. I paid $400 for my GF3 and as soon as the ATI card hit the market... poof the GF cards dropped in price by a LOT. [img]smile.gif[/img]

With that level of overclocking I expect they're cryo'ing that system... not a very realistic long-term setup (condensation will kill it in a hurry unless it's tuned PERFECTLY and insulated up the wazoo). I've got a liquid cooled rig that I think should get my Athlon 1700 to 2ghz in a sustainable configuration (no peltiers). Cooling the GPU and CPU I'm hoping for 10k out of madonion... should be fun experimenting at any rate.
<hr></blockquote>

Be careful, I haven't been seeing too many good results overclocking the 1700+'s. I think you might get up to 1.6 or 1.7 ghz, but I wouldn't take it much further then that. What kind of video card to you have? Are you using a water block on the video as well?

Thoran 02-09-2002 02:02 PM

I've got water on the CPU, Northbridge, and GPU. I ran at 1600 using an HSF and the processor was at 50c but it was reliable (just to hot for my taste). Now I've got the fsb at 138 (1530 or so) and the gf3 GPU at 240/480. It's been good for 8000 on madonion.

I was thinking 2000 in the "athlon world" which is what... 1800mhz? I was thinking that 340 mhz shouldn't be too much of a stretch... goose the processor voltage and monitor temps. But first is the pain of unlocking the processor. yuk

Staralfur 02-09-2002 04:35 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Thoran:
I've got water on the CPU, Northbridge, and GPU. I ran at 1600 using an HSF and the processor was at 50c but it was reliable (just to hot for my taste). Now I've got the fsb at 138 (1530 or so) and the gf3 GPU at 240/480. It's been good for 8000 on madonion.

I was thinking 2000 in the "athlon world" which is what... 1800mhz? I was thinking that 340 mhz shouldn't be too much of a stretch... goose the processor voltage and monitor temps. But first is the pain of unlocking the processor. yuk
<hr></blockquote>

??????? This seems a little excessive - I'm using a P2 400, with a voodoo2 graphics card and I can still own at CS :D (When my ping is below 200 - ntl problems). Anyway, these new graphics cards have got as much memory on them as I have on my motherboard, and their processor speed ain't far off my good ol' P2. Give another couple of years and there will probably be sound cards with similar specs to my pc aswell :( The only good thing I can see coming from this is that I might be able to afford a Geforce2.

Thoran 02-10-2002 01:47 AM

A buddy of mine just bought a GF2 card (off-brand) for $40.00.

I've also got an Athlon 1200 with a GF2-MX400, truth to tell I can play just about any game I want with it and get quite acceptable performance... maybe not at 1280x1024 but usually at 800x600 or so.

I'm a guy that needs to have a hobby to waste my free time and money... I'm out of town on a year long project so I'm not spending money on my car (2700 miles away at my house)... and I work a block away from the Costa Mesa Fry's, bad ju ju. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's fun as long as you're willing to accept that anything you buy will be basically worthless within a year or two.

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Staralfur 02-10-2002 08:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Thoran:
A buddy of mine just bought a GF2 card (off-brand) for $40.00.

I've also got an Athlon 1200 with a GF2-MX400, truth to tell I can play just about any game I want with it and get quite acceptable performance... maybe not at 1280x1024 but usually at 800x600 or so.

I'm a guy that needs to have a hobby to waste my free time and money... I'm out of town on a year long project so I'm not spending money on my car (2700 miles away at my house)... and I work a block away from the Costa Mesa Fry's, bad ju ju. [img]smile.gif[/img]

It's fun as long as you're willing to accept that anything you buy will be basically worthless within a year or two.

[ 02-10-2002: Message edited by: Thoran ]
<hr></blockquote>

I stand corrected; Here is some bench marks from the latest Unreal engine. I don't look good for my poor old voodoo2, infact it don't look good for anything less than a Geforce3 :(

Staralfur 02-10-2002 08:41 PM

Hehe - quadruple post. (my connection kept cutting out, and I thought it hadn't been posted)

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