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Archon Devangilous 11-05-2001 07:04 AM

ive heard that thje new x men movie is about to/ has started. Beast is in this one (yes!!) and so is the blob and i think the other charcters from the newer xmen cartoons that have been on

has anyone heard anything else or kno a site i can go to??

and my next question is what is peoples thoughts on the mixture of rouge and jubilee they used in the first movie.. yeah she has the powers and overall physical apperance of rouge but she also has the character relationship with wolverine that is known to be jubilees
any thoughts??

Lifetime 11-05-2001 07:36 AM

I wanna know when the take the kiddie gloves off Rouge(pun intended) and give her the ability to fly and kick butt..
They needed a scared teenager, but Jubilee probably wouldnt have fit into the story. They needed motivation for the heroes, so they used Rouge instead.

Debaser 11-05-2001 09:15 AM

I'm pretty sure this site should have any info on X-Men 2 that's there to be had....

http://filmforce.ign.com/

Cerek the Barbaric 11-05-2001 12:02 PM

I got seriously into The X-Men in the mid-eighties. During this time, the "original" cast had left (Cyclops/Marvel Girl/Beast/Angel). Storm had lost her powers thanks to Forge and was on a Quest to get them back - so Wolverine was the leader of the group.

This was before Jubilee and he and Rogue did seem to have a little something going on. There was nothing obvious, just little remarks here and there. This was during their conflict with the Marauders and shortly before the Fall of the Mutants crossover. After Storm got her powers back and rejoined the group, the Rogue/Wolverine thing seem to fade away.

Still a good point about the Jubilee tie-in though. I hadn't considered that aspect, but it is pretty obvious now that you mention it.

Now - here's a new question for the thread - who is your all-time favorite X-Man?

Larry_OHF 11-05-2001 12:11 PM

<font color="white">I don't know about favorite character, but my favorite part in the movie was probably the special effects that Storm got to pull off when she was fighting toad-boy. She looked so freaking cool when she did that!</font>

Irongrinder 11-05-2001 12:36 PM

I was hoping Gambit would show up. He's still one of my favorite.

*\Conan/* 11-05-2001 12:56 PM

Rouge is my favorite. Her and the Cajun can really mix it up!! ;) I like Morf to. Scotts not half bad either (great name!)

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MILAMBER 11-05-2001 12:58 PM

All time favorite is Wolverine. I like him because he isn't larger then life. He has the same character flaws that most people do while at the same time being able to kick a$$.

MagiK 11-05-2001 01:01 PM

Got to be nit picky here [img]smile.gif[/img] Since Im an X-Men Fan from the 70's and 80's. Its "Rogue" [img]smile.gif[/img] Rouge is stuff wimmin put on their face [img]smile.gif[/img]

Jest thought Id add that little bit of tid. :D

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MagiK 11-05-2001 01:04 PM

Im not happy they mixed up the timeline With the characters, Kitty Pride and Collosus would have been great in this movie. Not to mention Havok,
Rogue as Rogue would have been nice, but Rogue as the mix of Jubilee and Rogue was kind of lame.

Archon Devangilous 11-05-2001 06:49 PM

my favorite would have to be beast he is an absolute legend in the pheonix saga when they are inside the crystal everyone is falling down amidst big chanks of rock and he actually climbs and flips up the falling rocks!!

fascinating

from what ive heard so far... gambit isnt in the second one which sucks cos he's a cool character
as for all the old characters... i dont think so cos 'the blob' is in it as well as night crawler i think and they are from the new series

Shadowstrider 11-05-2001 07:48 PM

My favorite X-man is Gambit, but my all-time favorite mutant is Magneto.

The movie was great except one line, REALLY pissed me off.

Storm is fighting with Toad and its getting near the end. Toad is hanging and then it happens:

Storm: Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets struck by lightning?
Toad:...no...
Storm: The same as everything else.

WTF is that? Could've been something dramatic, but we get "The same as everything else." How about:

Shadowstrider: You know what happens to a bad movie script when you hire a good writer?
Writer 1:...no...
Shadowstrider: They make the script better JACKASS!

=P

Archon Devangilous 11-05-2001 09:16 PM

surely that one line is out down by some of wolverines

wolverine to cyclops
"keep your eye open"
to jean gray
"whats your gift? putting up with him"

Lifetime 11-06-2001 01:05 AM

Kitty IS in the movie. She's the girl that walks through the wall when wolverine first meets Professor X.

And yea Gambit is probably the coolest X-Man. Or Angel/Archangel. Wolverine is cool in the comics because he's the key to saving the earth from the mutant plauge in Future's Past or something like that. Archangel was DAMN cool in Apocalypse's coming.
I like Apocalypse for a bad-guy. I've got a thing for all those far-future everyone's dead and the mutants are in underground resistance stories. So much like the Terminator. It takes the nice-ness out of the stories and puts in a dark edge. The Sentinels were pretty cool too.

Cerek the Barbaric 11-06-2001 06:25 AM

My favorite dialogue from the movie occurs when Wolverine rejoins Cyclops and Jean Grey after fighting Mystique:

Cyclops holds his visor, preparing to blast Wolverine.
Wolverine "Relax, it's me."
Cyclops "Prove it!"
Wolverine "You're a dick."
Cyclops "Let's go."

That was a great adaptation of the early relationship between Wolverine and Cyclops.

Wolverine is my favorite character. I was sooo glad to see him as the main character in the movie. Gambit is really cool too. I loved his power.But when I first started collecting The X-Men, my favorite character was.....Longshot.

Other characters I would like to see in the movie:
Colossus would be great. I would also like to see Dazzler and Psylocke. Both of these ladies were VERY tough. Iceman would also make for great visuals.

Villains I would like to see.
JUGGERNAUT!!! I also liked Mr. Sinister and his Maruaders. That would be a great group for our heroes to fight.

Hero I most want to see in X-Men 3?
Shatterstar!!

Argus 11-06-2001 07:57 AM

Archon,

If IGN doesn't give you all the info. you're looking for, try this site out:

http://www.cinescape.com/x-men

I find that it has the most complete info. on all the various x-men projects.

IMHO I was really disappointed that Gambit didn't make it into the film, or into the sequel. Gotta love the Cajun! and I have no doubt that his interaction with Wolverine would have led to some classic one-liners.

Archon Devangilous 11-06-2001 09:28 AM

while i do wish the lady ambitious cajun was in the film i can understand the budget constraints... can you imagine the money in expolsives they would have to use everytime the xmen got in a fight??

im interested to see how they'll make night crawler look as well as beast... cos mystique looks absolutley awesome

Debaser 11-06-2001 09:38 AM

Yeah, i think that it would have been badass if they put Gambit in the next X-Men...they said the reason they didn't wasn't Wolverine AND Gambit would've been one smartass-toughguy too many. I personally don't agree, but hey, they're the ones in charge of this whole thing.

Cerek the Barbaric 11-07-2001 12:34 PM

GAMBIT FANS.....REJOICE!

According to the link provided by Argus, the new members slated to join the X-Men team in the second movie are:

Beast, Jubilee, and......GAMBIT!!!

I don't know how often the site is updated, but Gambit wasn't listed as a rumour, so hopefully it's true.

Irongrinder 11-07-2001 03:14 PM

Ah Ceric, that's music to my ears. I was already hoping for this.


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