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I am reposting this story here in a new thread:
Do you believe in Fate? Or do you believe stuff happens for a reason? An example below: "My sister was on the way to work, and came to a train crossing that NEVER had a train come at that time in the morning--NEVER.. but this one morning, a train was stopped across the road for 10 mins. She waited until it cleared.. and on her way to work, she drove past a HUGE 5 car wreck, and it happened minutes ago.. If that train was not there, she could have been part of that." Or mine: Stopped at a stoplight, I am waiting for it to turn green. I USUALLY punch it when it turns green. But this time I didn't. SOMETHING made me look both ways before I went when it turned green--I was lucky, a HUGE Semi-Tanker went through a red light, and if I had punched it when it went green, I would be dead--NO doubt at all.. I was totally freaked out for weeks. If you have a story like this, POST IT!! I wanna know! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Someone was looking out for me that day. Maybe my Dad. ------------------ Ziroc™ Ironworks Webmaster www.tgeweb.com/ironworks |
certain things are hard to explain. but remember that, we tend to interpret things in ways we prefer.
a perfect example is the movie "the Messenger" the main actress, Jane, prefered to interpret those signs in her early life as messages from God, and she interpreted herself as a messanger sent by God it is all about preference. after all, if you cross that road, the tank car might stop. or if you press the traffic light, the green light might gave the driver a signal... even if that train didn't come, your sister might not be caught in the 5 car wreck... who knows. we prefer the assumption that "we jusr avoided an accident" it gave us a nice feeling. it is cruel when you really look at things as what had happened, not what might happen, because it took away the indication that "we are special" or "we are blessed" or "we are cared for" or simply "I am just lucky" on the hand, as Yorick always say "others see coincidence, I see God." In my opinion, you are the major determine factor to your life curve. |
Well, Last year I was sittng at a downtown Boston outdoor cafe on a very windy day. A homeless looking fellow bummed a smoke from me, so I stood up and went over to this fellow and gave him a smoke. a 6 ft long solid metal pole fell from an awning about twenty feet above and crashed into the chair I was sitting in seconds before, It missed me from where I stood by less than a foot. I turned my head at the loud clang, and when I turned back, the gruffy guy was...gone. Though probably lost in the busy crowd. The metal chair I was sitting in had a huge dent in it, the pole probably wieghed about 20 lbs.
The day before my girlfriend gave me a gift, a totem necklace with a symbol of protection on it, to protect me from violent shoplifters at my urban retail job. I was wearing it when this happened, of course. An angel in disguise as a stranger, and my lovers thoughful gift, two synchronicities in one this event. |
In a certain way I believe in fate... I believe that God knows what will happen in the future and what you will choose to do, even though the choice is still there to make. I do believe that things happen for a reason, because God has a plan. It's kind of hard to explain because free will exists yet God has a plan that will be fulfilled... I don't know, that's just what I believe http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif.
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Hi all, my story of fate is work related,
We had an incident at the firestation I work at one evening. Turns out that one of the air bottles we wear on our backs when we work a structure fire had received a chemical exposure a couple of weeks prior in a training burn, and over time the fiberglass wrap that gave the bottle it's strength (and allowed it to be lightweight) degraded. That bottle had been sitting in it's normal compartment when it gave way and blew up, taking out the side of the fire engine in the process (oh, there was 4500 psi of air, or 310 bar if you will, inside the bottle). The explosion shook the station to the point that my partners and I thought we were having an earthquake, or possibly that a car had just run into us. The fate part comes in because 10 minutes before the bottle went, I had been standing at that very compartment with my hand on the latch, about to do the daily checks on those airpacks and bottles (we had been busy that day and I hadn't gotten to it yet). But the time was just before 9pm, and a movie that my partners and I had talked about watching was going to be on at 9 (a T.V. mini-series about the Civil War called 'Andersonville"). So I decided the heck with it and joined the others in the T.V. room. I never did see that program, but thank the heavens almost daily for it, for if I had been standing there, well it's a good thing I hadn't been standing there. So yes, I do believe in fate..very much indeed! And thank you for listening http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Cheers http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...itty3_anim.gif [This message has been edited by catman (edited 10-11-2001).] |
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whats a totem of necklace with protection? I want to buy one! I want to buy one! not for myself though... [This message has been edited by 250 (edited 10-11-2001).] |
yes, i do believe in fate. a few examples follow:
When my dad was a young man of about 18, he was working in a grain silo. his supervisor told him to go clean out the shaft or something, and he did it, assuming the turbines were off. they werent, and he lost footing, dangling with his legs just inches over the blades screaming for help until his supervisor turned them off. i'm sure it was fate that he saved himself there, although why he never pressed charges i'll never know... also, a few years ago on the 4th of July, i was setting a daytime firework off. the sparks surprised me, sendinding me back a few feet. the firework shot off (it was of the flying variety, mind you). it didnt go up, it instead went towards me. usually i would stand high and strong, not blinking as it came toward me. but instead i fell away towards a step, causing the firework to go above me where my chest was just a few milliseconds ago. i'm almost sure this was fate, as i would likely be dead now if it werent for my decision that there was no shame in ducking from a burning ball of black powder! ------------------ It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha, ha, ha. And at the center of that injury, wil be me. All that boundless energy will be mine. By merging with the energy of the Planet, I will be come a new life form, a new existence. Melding with the Planet, I will cease to exist as I am now. Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every living soul. http://www.angelfire.com/games3/impg...phforsiteb.gif What are you saying? Are you trying to tell me you have feelings now? Ha, ha, ha... Stop acting as if you're sad. And there's no need to act as if you're angry either. Because, Cloud, you are... a puppet. Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan. Follower of the mighty Fallen Paladin himself. Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better! Head of the IronWorks Intelligence Division Official Soup Server and bumper of Cloudy's Cafe Possessor of the Aerie Diamond Head from the ALSB. Page in the Court of Lady Lioness Stalking the woodlands, the Lioness in my sight, warm feelings doth come, into my lonely heart |
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I was looking for stories!! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif -- J/k! I understand what you mean, but this Tanker was going about 70mph.. I mean FAST!! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif I would have been T-boned and oh... it would have been nasty.. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ------------------ Ziroc™ Ironworks Webmaster www.tgeweb.com/ironworks |
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My family and several other people were at a friends house. During the time we were there, one of the worst storms of the century here came it and to keep the basement from flooding two men went out to dig ditches in the yard so it would run off else where. Well, at one point when one of the men was digging, he felt someone tap his shoulder. He looked back and he saw the other guy who was shaking his head. He looked back down at where he was digging and saw a gas line which he had almost hit! He looked back and the other man was on the other side of the yard digging. There was no way, in just a few seconds he could have gotten between the two points. If he had hit that line, the whole building would have exploded with all of us in it! I'm sure you see why G'Kar's story reminded me of this. Anyway, that's one example of fate or whatever you may call it. -Jafin ------------------ http://members.aol.com/wolviejon/myh...gnature156.jpg http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/hero2.gif Proud Citizen of the United States of America The Original Arch-Mage of the HADB Destroyer of the evil Bunnies Proprietor of the Boogre Bar The not-so-secret admirer of Lioness Mage of the Court of Lady Lioness |
Wow, 250 - very insightful post!
I don't believe in fate, but like 250 I believe that people view things as fate if that is what they think is the driving force. Coincidence is very common really, it's just that we only see those events that affect us directly in a noticeable way, like Ziroc's story. There may be a thousand coincidences that happen to us each and every day which we don't notice because they don't seem important. I do have a nice little story about coincidence though - a pleasant one, in a kind of 'every cloud has a silver lining' way. I was at my uncle's funeral a few weeks ago, a very sad occasion. He died unexpectedly in his mid-fifties. We were in the waiting room, when a woman who had been my best friend when I was about 10 walked in. I hadn't even set eyes on her in 10 years, but often wondered how she was and how we managed to lose contact. I wasn't aware of any reason why she should even know my uncle, let alone be at his funeral. It turned out that she had started a dog-grooming business in the village where my uncle & aunt lived, and my aunt had been taking her little dog to be trimmed by my old schoolfriend on a monthly basis for the last 3 years! They had become very good friends in that time. It still leaves me speechless when I think about it. Just coincidence though, not fate http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ------------------ http://www.gldb.com/wayno/e1.jpg Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Epona of The Laughing Hyenas Proud winner of the 'Most Useless Post 250 Has Ever Seen' Award 2001. "I'd just like to thank my friends and family, without whom none of this would have been possible..." |
I believe in fate and miracles, but call it what you will...
My story isn't one in which I got out unscathed, but I did get out alive.... I was in an automobile wreck in 1998. A BIG Dodge Ram T-boned the driver-side door of my little Hyundai hatchback and proceeded to 'skid' down the side of my car. Two things, in my eyes, were fate/miracle. First, the fact I had bought the Hyundai because I couldn't really afford anything else - but it had a wonderful new safety feature (a steel safety bar in the doors). If it hadn't had that, the truck would have been in my lap and not deflected down the side of my car. The second is that, the last thing I saw before he hit me was his driver's side headlight pointing straight at my driver's side window only an ince or so away. Then suddenly I opened my eyes and my head was turned the opposite direction. There is no way I could have moved my head in time to avoid getting my face shredded, but it had been moved. I was still 'scalped' on the left side of my head by the broken window and had to receive about 45 stitches, but if my face had stayed turned towards the window, it would have taken off the left side of my face. And my left eye is the only one I can see out of - I'm legally blind in my right. To this day, I believe an Angel was present and turned my head in time. Most people wouldn't be thankful to have a broken collarbone, severe lacerations to the right forearm and left scalp, but I was. I was out of the hospital in three hours and back to work in four days instead of being in ICU and having extensive plastic surgery. And I am thankful every day that I survived that wreck even though it has left me with lasting medical difficulties. I still remember every detail and I never lost consciousness. I even tried to call 9-1-1 on my cell phone, but forgot to press 'send'. *small smile* |
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lets not turn this into another Rikard VS 250... **runs away before Choc God could catch him** |
i belive in coincidence or fate if you call it. i just forgot what happened to me back then.. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif .. ill try to post it when i rememeber.. hehe
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Hmmm....made me actually think before posting this time, Dan. Congradulations on achieving the rare and significanthttp://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
Nothing else puts the rest of your life in better perspective than when that very short flashback movie the Head Producer shows may have curtains, also. - i remember it as being said by a h'wood director from the '30s. I guess I have gone back over the times when things were 'dicey', as Charlie would say. What stands out is the difference between near death anticipated, such as car crash, and the sudden, incredibly jarring realization that your life was just in doubt and you had not one say in the matter. cars*shudder* i hate that awful, dawning realization that your little mobile empire has just declared allegience to the laws of physics in denial of your attempts otherwise. you have time to anticipate, for example, if you will go thru the truck windshield before you hit the frozen river below, or as you do, hand braced on the dash, yelling "stop" - and all of a sudden , you are still in the truck, on the road, wondering where the momentum that was clearly enough went? we sort of fell out of the cab of the truck - this is a bridge on the Ice Highway, Alaska - used and useable only after everything has frozen, land, water, plants, animals, humans, etc. span over 150', straight down ice about 4-7 feet thick on river, don't know if 4door crew 4x4 and three juggies would have broken through or not. or just sort of bounced and smeared, a bit. - A nameless, lazy snowplow driver saved our lives by not using the 'blade' or gaurd - ppl live where lots of snow, the gate drops over the edge of the grader plowing the street so you do not get 'bermed in' by the 'wake' of snow it pushes outward from center. - more work to use gate, but it also keeps things like bridges from getting bermed edges, which can drift, which can turn a road into a 'park' in a breath or two. the driver's tire was snubbed by a snow/ice boulder plow had dislodged, but not bothered to move. a foot ahead or behind, no story today. so, if not for some man's sloth, there go i over. it is different when something cataclysmic happens around you - first of all, if you were close enough for scars, you are effectively deaf for an hour up to a day or so, or forever. the ringing is atrocious, but you are too disoriented to notice much at first, and the first thought is why/where am I?, and the overpowering urge to be elsewhere but not know how to do it, it is extremely dislocating the jagged way your faculties return. When other people around you come to your attention again, it is a double rush first of fear - am I really hurt and don't know it yet, and the feeling you know you must be mostly okay because your next feelings/thoughts are for the ones near you, and your buddies. About 3 months after Reagan (incompletely) bombed libya, a small, and I mean 6 stool hole-in-the-wall small bierstube in friedberg, West Germany, was ineptly and incompletely blown up in a fit of holy war or whatever. guy tried to install the car bomb while car parked at bar. guy either victim of inadequate training, luck, or probably both. Instead of playing darts on the machine right next to the door like usual, the lights were buggin, and with much griping about having to go around the corner and walk about 15' to the other dart machine, we did. still arguing over what game to pick, when picking self off of floor, follow thought process above. Those two stand out most vividly of all, and you know right *shhh* 250 is absolutely right in my opine, it leaves you shaking because you know there is ab-so-freak-in-lut-ely no reason why you are not dead. not your job, address, bank account... nothing mattered, and it was just luck - a favorable random turn of the cosmic die when the universe's desire for randomness passes you over for that guy over there. ------------------ Amanda's Dad - The Best Damn Job, Period. http://angelfire.com/rpg2/mirac/images/mummy.gif Official Pin-Up Girl Evaluator/Massager of the O.L.D. C.O.O.T.S. Clan To Err is Human To Forgive Divine, However Neither is U.S. Marine Corps Policy. [This message has been edited by J.J. (edited 10-11-2001).] |
coincidence happens all the time. i think things tend to be cause and effect - if horrible to people they tend to be horrible back.
if odd things happen, as they do all of the time, then we tend to interpret them as 'we' being lucky etc., but then, other people are hellishly unlucky........ so....... recent wierd thing: been talking to zeb on the forum, he lives in poland where we possibly have relatives, so been trying to find out about them....... then, the next day i met a man who i knew slightly who turned out to be polish who lives in my area and he volunteered the info that he was the son of a polish guy. not particularly wierd you may think. but......... potential source of some very interesting information. i think just coincidence, but i could be wrong........ ------------------ offended mistress of the illuminati |
Well... I couldn't think of anything else... hmm...
there was this time, actually, things happen the other way for me... my curse... really. I always choose the wrong crucial descicions that could have made me happy... like there was this one time on where I was invited to this party, and I didn't go, and they were all raving about it, on where I thought it would suck, and there were parties I would go into but they sucked... it really pisses me off... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ------------------ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/heart.gif Mithril Cavalier of ALSB You almost had me? You never had me! You never had your car! It is not about winning by a mile or by an inch, its about winning. |
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