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In class I'm having my students perform Demonstration speeches. Besides the usual gambit of cookies, brownies, and other treats, one of my students wanted to show how to create a character in Baldur's Gate. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
Just to be helpful http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif, I installed Baldur's Gate on the computer in my classroom (the same one I use for grades and attendance). Terribly convenient of me isn't it? So the next time the technology people come to check my computer I can respond, "Oh that. Well a student needed it for a Demonstration speech and I just haven't gotten around to uninstalling it. Do I play it in school? Of course not." Anyway, that's my cover story. ------------------ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/bronze.gif Most Subtle Official Straightman of the Laughing Hyenas -- Grammarian Brigade. "The only medicine for suffering, crime, and all the other woes of mankind, is wisdom." -- Thomas Huxley |
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You teach speech? What is that like? ------------------ http://imagehosting.bidbay.com/image.php3?imgID=614236 http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/hero2.gif Sapphire Dragoness of ALSB Waitress at Cloudy's Cafe Guardian of the Temple of Aerie (specialized in GenCon and BG) Most Illustrious Arch-Magess of the Illuminati Lux omnis est |
Hehehe what a cool teacher you must be, Father Bronze! Your students must love you! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no.../xyxthumbs.gif
Just out of curiosity, for your demonstration speeches, do you allow the use of multimedia in general, like PowerPoint presentations, etc.? Things have changed so much since I was in the school system. ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/saz.gif |
LOL that funny. And how is it being a speach teacher?
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Speech is basically a public speaking course.
I usually spend the first week or so on how to avoid being nervous. After that, we work on organization and presentation skills. Speech is a fun class; especially if everyone participates. As a teacher, it gets tough when a student has such terrible anxiety that they can't get up in front of the class to deliver their speech. We don't do much with multi-media. I ask my students to do an Informative Speech and for that they must use a visual aid (a diagram, picture, graph, . . .). I suppose someone could use powerpoint as their visual aid. Our school does have a computer class that focuses on powerpoint. In that class, the students have to give a powerpoint presentation. - Father Bronze |
wow. it would be even more fun if you taught them to debate.
it seems this art is dying out i schools these days. (despondant sigh) ------------------ offended mistress of the illuminati |
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Hi FB. You are a high school teacher, right? so do you have a mac in the class, or is it windows? What a great reason to install bg right there. When I was teaching freshman speech at montana state, pc's were over 2grand, and you got a 40mb harddrive, could uprgrade to 1mb ram for another 200$, and the processor speed was 12mghz - that was the old epson equity 2+, my friend jim got one from his grandmother, with the 24pin color printer, was just under 2400$
needless to say, computer lab was the only place you could find one in a classroom! do you have a list of speech topics that have been done so often, they do not get accepted anymore? we had a dozen topics that had circulated thru the greek houses and dorms so much, they were topica non grata when it came time to do it. do your students do an informative/demo, prob/solution, and expository formats? Or do you cover more the mechanics of speaking and the types of organizational format? I miss teaching sometimes, but not enough to go back and get an m.a. for it! ------------------ Unstinting Gaurdian of Children Defender of Those Unable To http://angelfire.lycos.com/rpg/stealthy/mummy.gif Official Pin-Up Girl Evaluator/Massager of the O.L.D. C.O.O.T.S. Clan To Err is Human To Forgive Divine, However Neither is U.S. Marine Corps Policy. |
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Don't worry our program is going strong. Two years ago we had a student place 2nd in the state. In three of the past four years, I've had a student place in the top 50 in the nation. -- Father Bronze |
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And yes, there are quite a few topics I consider annoying or unacceptable -- legalization of marjhuana, lower the drinking age, AIDS, teen suicide, eating disorders, . . . We've decided as a department that we will focus on Demonstration, Informative, and Persuasive formats. We also do some impromptu speeches and have the students write a Eulogy. We are not so concerned with students learning the finer arts of rhetoric (although I'd love to teach that, they get bored when I get philosophical), but rather hope that the students have a positive first experience and learn proper delivery techniques. Speech is probably the second most valued class I've taught. Most of the time it is former Debaters who come back and thank me for all that I've taught them in Debate, but occasionally a Speech student will do the same. For some reason, my Freshmen didn't come back and thank me for making them memorize the parts of speech -- imagine that ( puzzled shrug ) http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. - Father Bronze |
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I have been thinking of volunteering to help my old high school speech and debate team - i started speech the end of my junior year - just enough meets (3) and i did well enough to go to the state NFL meet the first year. my senior year, i tore it up, almost got my ruby NFL pin, but did get the saphire, and placed 7th in the state that year in extemporaneous speaking - picked it because impromptu was to scary, and things like oral interp and expository and debate were too much work! (like your typical high schooler) I just wish i had started my soph year, i know i would have ended up with the double ruby and a national shot, alas. lololol that is great that you teach that, FB, people wonder why (students who have to take it, mostlyhttp://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ) speech is so important - fear of public speaking is a steady 46% of the population's greatest fear, most of the time a greater % than death will get on those type of surveys! ------------------ Unstinting Gaurdian of Children Defender of Those Unable To http://angelfire.com/rpg2/mirac/images/mummy.gif Official Pin-Up Girl Evaluator/Massager of the O.L.D. C.O.O.T.S. Clan To Err is Human To Forgive Divine, However Neither is U.S. Marine Corps Policy. |
Father Bronze
what do you usually do when a student cannot get up and talk? |
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Actually, I use a combination of quiet encouragement with a nice threat or two. Nervousness actually reduces sharply if the student is well prepared. I spoke to a parent's group the other night and I explained it this way. All of my students got up to give the first speech. The speech was a self-introduction and the student needed to talk about his/herself for one minute. Since students know the topic (they know themselves) and it's a short speech, the students aren't extraordinarily nervous. Using the same rule for other speeches, the more I can get a student prepared for the speech, the less nervous he/she will be. I also threaten the students that 1) the course is required for graduation and 2) if they don't give their speeches they will fail the course. I only resort to the threats as a last resort -- usually with a student who is too lazy to do any work and/or has failed speech before and is repeating the class. ------------------ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/bronze.gif Most Subtle Official Straightman of the Laughing Hyenas -- Grammarian Brigade. "The only medicine for suffering, crime, and all the other woes of mankind, is wisdom." -- Thomas Huxley |
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I would be prepare and stand up, and talk... but I am 90% sure I would screw it up. have you had this kind case before? I mean, I am sure I will be left rotten and forgotten in the corner... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif just like to know what you would do to people like me http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif |
Hi Father Bronze,
I'm also the reticent type and have had to force myself to speak coherently during office meetings (at first, it was a case of blustering and I was so, so embarassed of myself because everyone would look at me trying to understand what I was trying to say). These days, especially when I give presentations to say 30-40 pple, I keep telling myself that my bosses are watching me and I had jolly well not foul up! Not the best technique, I know, but it's been relatively effective so far. Would you have any advice for me, too? |
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I think I could be a good debator..if only I could come up with something of my own and not just twist other peoples words around http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif</p> Keep them straight! I think ToB should be next course ,ok http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ------------------ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/portal3.jpg *\Conan/* [This message has been edited by Conan (edited 10-04-2001).] |
The course is required for graduation, then? Good for your school district!!
When I was in HS, speech wasn't required. I never had to give an oral presentation on anything, and was completely unprepared for what was about to hit me when I went to college. Talk about doing some quick learning! I'm glad to see that the trend, at least in your particular area, is changing. Cheers, ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/saz.gif |
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And no, I don't leave anyone "rotten and forgotten in the corner." I pester them at least once or twice a day http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/bronze.gif Most Subtle Official Straightman of the Laughing Hyenas -- Grammarian Brigade. "The only medicine for suffering, crime, and all the other woes of mankind, is wisdom." -- Thomas Huxley |
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1) Preparation is the key. The more you are prepared, the less nervous you will be. Imagine if you had to give the presentation without any preparation. Wouldn't you be a heck of a lot more nervous? 2) It's never as bad as you think it is. If you lose your place and it seems to take forever to get back on track, remember that nervousness makes time inch by. You may be standing there for 30 seconds of silence, but it seems like everyone was staring at you for at least 3 minutes. 3) I bet your boss gets nervous too. Imagine if you boss were critical of you for giving a bad presentation. Don't you think you (and everyone else in the office) would be a lot more critical of your boss the next time (s)he gave a presentation? As a speech teacher there's a lot of pressure. My students always comment when I say "um" or when I forget what I was going to say. I'm held to a higher standard because "You told us not to do that. How can you expect us not to say 'um' when you say it yourself?" And hey, if your technique (scaring yourself silly) works, great. I might have to try that one myself http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ------------------ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/bronze.gif Most Subtle Official Straightman of the Laughing Hyenas -- Grammarian Brigade. "The only medicine for suffering, crime, and all the other woes of mankind, is wisdom." -- Thomas Huxley |
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I think that speech class could help - as we both know, the more nervous you are, the more you stutter. As FB's class helps students become less nervous, we'd probably stutter less http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif sounds good http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif unfortunately not that easy http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif. ------------------ http://imagehosting.bidbay.com/image.php3?imgID=614236 http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/hero2.gif Sapphire Dragoness of ALSB Waitress at Cloudy's Cafe Guardian of the Temple of Aerie (specialized in GenCon and BG) Most Illustrious Arch-Magess of the Illuminati Lux omnis est |
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