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Grand-Ranger 09-30-2001 01:35 AM

To settle a disagreement between me and a friend.

He thinks that Gandalf is a dwarf..I dont think is. I could be wrong..But I dont think so..

Can anyone settle this?

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Mitro Jellywadder 09-30-2001 01:45 AM

Can't remember what we was, but DEFINITELY NOT a dwarf..Too tall.

Neb 09-30-2001 01:46 AM

Reasons why Gandalf is not a dwarf:

1) He's taller than any damn dwarf will ever be.

2) He can use magic and is one of the 5 great mages, and none of the 5 mages in Tolkien's world are dwarves.

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G'kar 09-30-2001 01:56 AM

LOL!!!! What fits Gimili would have to hear such speculation. I vote human.

SSJ4Sephiroth 09-30-2001 02:00 AM

Bah! ye were right, GR! can believe ive proven myself wrong, though...

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Grand-Ranger 09-30-2001 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
Bah! ye were right, GR! can believe ive proven myself wrong, though...


Hehe http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Well as I said..that what you get for relying on default logic http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


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SSJ4Sephiroth 09-30-2001 02:07 AM

a pox on you! i will be right again soon, of course... saaay, what planet do you think Han Solo's from?

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G'kar 09-30-2001 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
a pox on you! i will be right again soon, of course... saaay, what planet do you think Han Solo's from?


Uranus

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Grand-Ranger 09-30-2001 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
a pox on you! i will be right again soon, of course... saaay, what planet do you think Han Solo's from?


LOL

Wearnt you the one saying "Have you ever heard those star wars freaks!?"


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SSJ4Sephiroth 09-30-2001 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grand-Ranger:
Quote:

Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
a pox on you! i will be right again soon, of course... saaay, what planet do you think Han Solo's from?


LOL

Wearnt you the one saying "Have you ever heard those star wars freaks!?"



noo, i said star trek. its entirely different!

and no, hes not from Uranus. good guess though!

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Djinn Raffo 09-30-2001 02:18 AM

Well isnt he a half - elf??????? one of the maiar??????????? (Sp???))

Grand-Ranger 09-30-2001 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SSJ4Sephiroth:
noo, i said star trek. its entirely different!

and no, hes not from Uranus. good guess though!



LOL

"There is excaley 73 orginal Star Trek episodes."

"Noo there is 72!"


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"...But I look at my self as a fragile, inteligent,human being. But there is a clown inside that comes and messes it up everytime" -Jim Morrison

Lifetime 09-30-2001 02:36 AM

Han Solo is from Corellia

Muahah!

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Memnoch 09-30-2001 03:42 AM

Gandalf? A DWARF?!?!? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/smiles/wow.gif

Grand-Ranger, please! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/redface.gif

He's a wizard, come from across the Sea to stand against the Dark Lord on his dark throne. He would be most closely affiliated with the Elves, who called him Mithrandir.


Three Rings for the Elf-kings under the sky
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal Men doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all one Ring to bind them
One Ring to gather them and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.


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DragonMage 09-30-2001 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lifetime:
Han Solo is from Corellia

Muahah!

You...are a sad, sad individual...but correct!!!! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

What...do you have the 'official guides', too??? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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DragonMage 09-30-2001 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch:

Three Rings for the Elf-kings under the sky
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal Men doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all one Ring to bind them
One Ring to gather them and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.


Aren't you excited? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ievalsmile.gif

OOooooh! One of my favorite quote from that, except for the song the orcs sing when they have the party up in the trees and are trying to burn them out. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Neb 09-30-2001 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DragonMage:
OOooooh! One of my favorite quote from that, except for the song the orcs sing when they have the party up in the trees and are trying to burn them out. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


The songs some are the coolest parts of Tolkien's books, btw, the time when the orcs are trying to get the party out of the trees is from The Hobbit, not the Lord of the Rings.



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Fljotsdale 09-30-2001 07:25 AM

I haven't read all this thread so maybe someone already said this: Gandalf is not human, not dwarven, not elven. Gandalf is a wizard which is a race apart from all of them, though closer to men. It is mentioned somewhere in LOTR or Hobbit, but I don't remember where. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Istaron 09-30-2001 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Grand-Ranger:
To settle a disagreement between me and a friend.

He thinks that Gandalf is a dwarf..I dont think is. I could be wrong..But I dont think so..

Can anyone settle this?


Ehh... NO, he is not a dwarf! Gandalf is a wizard (istar), send to Middleearth by Valar. The wizards are considered as an own race (if you can call a group of 13 individuals a race).
I think the last chapter of Silmarilion says something about them.

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DragonMage 09-30-2001 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neb:
The songs some are the coolest parts of Tolkien's books, btw, the time when the orcs are trying to get the party out of the trees is from The Hobbit, not the Lord of the Rings.

Sorry for the confusion, darlin', it's just that I have several copies of this. Some broken into the separate books. But I hardly ever refer to them separately as that's not how he originally wrote the story. I have one really great copy that is the ENTIRE epic in one volume. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Beaumanoir 09-30-2001 07:44 AM

Ive Never Read The Books, But Wasnt He A Hobbit Or Summat?

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Melusine 09-30-2001 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
Ive Never Read The Books, But Wasnt He A Hobbit Or Summat?


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Beaumanoir 09-30-2001 10:51 AM

Like I Said, I havent read them!

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Mirac Honorguard 09-30-2001 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beaumanoir:
Ive Never Read The Books, But Wasnt He A Hobbit Or Summat?


http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...s/biglaugh.gif Read it again http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif



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kiwidoc 09-30-2001 11:53 AM

Gandalf is a wizard, a race apart. According to Tolkein's son JRR always meant to write more about Wizards but never got around to it.

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Gwhanos, Lord Of Evil 09-30-2001 12:33 PM

Hes a human wizard who is cool...

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Grand-Ranger 09-30-2001 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch:
Gandalf? A DWARF?!?!? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/smiles/wow.gif

Grand-Ranger, please! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/redface.gif

He's a wizard, come from across the Sea to stand against the Dark Lord on his dark throne. He would be most closely affiliated with the Elves, who called him Mithrandir.


Three Rings for the Elf-kings under the sky
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone
Nine for mortal Men doomed to die
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all one Ring to bind them
One Ring to gather them and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.


Aren't you excited? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ievalsmile.gif


Well I wasnt the one saying he was a dwarf...blame that on SSJ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Him and his silly default logic http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


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Kaz 09-30-2001 03:15 PM

In the Silmarillion it is mentioned that the Istari are gosts or spirits that can assume many shapes but mostly use humans and elves (as their nature is most like to these two races). No, Gandalf is NOT a dwarf, NOR is he a hobbit!

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