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Yorick 09-17-2001 06:16 PM

Man. I just went had a squizz at a photo album from another forum and to my suprise found out that about three or four posters were actually adults.

From their posts I had assumed they were children.

What is this phenomena? Why is it people feel they can be petulant, insulting and rude online? Are they like this at work? In a relationship? I shudder to think. Common courtesy is not difficult. It takes more muscles to frown than smile, and probably takes less time and energy to type this: http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif than to be abusive.

Perhaps it is similar to the car syndrom. "Safe" in their "private world" of the automobile they can scream abuse, give the finger and cut people off. If they did this in the street on foot they'd likely be smacked in the head.

Why do people feel they can be infantile of the net? Any suggestions?

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Yorick 09-17-2001 06:27 PM

Silver cheetah, I saw you're replying, but haven't posted yet. I just wanted to say I read that you are Fjlotsdales daughter! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/smiles/wow.gif well there you go. How's the greenpeace stuff going? I'm a financial contributor to greenpeace in Australia. Keep it up.

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Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:


Why do people feel they can be infantile of the net? Any suggestions?


Because no one can get at them to smack them in the head? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Forum ranting is an easy option for the emotionally retarded and the mentally immature, - especially forums where the moderators are not of the same calibre as those of IW.

The 10% club is alive and well online (as in 'what the hell happened to the other nine tenths of your brain'?).


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Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
Silver cheetah, I saw you're replying, but haven't posted yet. I just wanted to say I read that you are Fjlotsdales daughter! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/noncgi/smiles/wow.gif well there you go. How's the greenpeace stuff going? I'm a financial contributor to greenpeace in Australia. Keep it up.


Hey dude - How do you know?? Guess she must have told you (I haven't read all the threads yet....). Yup, that's ma mommy, - I'm proud to say!

Re Greenpeace - it's going well, except we've had to cool the Stopesso campaign for obvious reasons. I got arrested on an Esso action a few weeks ago - very dramatic - the police cut through a big steel crate that I was in, that was barricading the entrance to esso's distribution plant in Essex, UK. They were pretty nice though - many of the UK police are GP members themselves.....

Glad to hear you contribute, - it all helps!



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MILAMBER 09-17-2001 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Yorick:
I read that you are Fjlotsdales daughter!

OMG!! I had no idea. I seem to remember Fjlotsdale mentioning something back in the day about how she was worried her daughter would be arrested at a Greenpeace demonstration. LOL, what a small world. I guess that wisdom and a talent for writing are family traits http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif.

Anyways, on Yoricks post I've noticed that too. What's funny, is that as often as I'm surprised by adults posting like children, I'm surprised by youth posting as adults. Seriously, there are some extremely intelligent youths on this board. Lioness, Kaz, Rikard... nothing but respect.

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SSJ4Sephiroth 09-17-2001 06:50 PM

hmm, we have someone like that in our guild. hes about 17, but acts like hes in second grade. i mean cmon, im younger than he is and i control myself much better than him! i cant list all the flamers that ive seen that i KNOW theyre older than me but instead act more like newborns. and then, of course, mature little ol me is back there acting like im 30 something when im just 14 http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif (though if you call me 'child' or 'young one' youll likely get your ears boxed, and im very practiced at that too http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif)

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Fljotsdale 09-17-2001 06:58 PM

There are indeed some very mature young people in this forum! I, too, Yorick, have been startled to find some I thought were young are actually adult, and some I thought adult are very young. It isn't the years that count, it's the amount of wisdom a person has gained!

But, come on - hey! We can ALL be childish! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif And it is easier to be childish with people who don't know you in the flesh! They can't do it at work or at home.
And it is easier for young people to be mature with people who don't know them in the flesh, and see them acting the fool with their mates!

As for being petulant, rude and insulting.... well, it ain't nice, but maybe this is the only place they feel safe enough to vent their feelings?

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Fljotsdale 09-17-2001 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:
Because no one can get at them to smack them in the head? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


Hiya, ■■■■■-cat! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif *big hug*

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Lord of Alcohol 09-17-2001 07:34 PM

Ok I raise my hand and admit I sometimes respond in an uncivilized way.But I will say myself and Fljots disagreed and got over our disagreement. Berate me if you like but you grow rather calloused in your ways after working in the construction field after awhile. However I will strive to be more restrained in the future

Ladyzekke 09-17-2001 07:53 PM

Well you know, we are all here, sitting in front of a keyboard, at home, or work for some, and can type anything. I know that many lame-O jokes I have posted, when just feeling silly, I would NEVER say outloud in RL amongst a crowd of friends LOL, cause of the fear they would look back at me with confused blank stares LOL. So yes, it is easy to type, you do not physically see the reaction that it gets, whether good or bad. I truly think if we put all of us members together physically in one room, we would all see eachother so differently, and our views on many would most likely change completely around, again for the good or bad, if that makes sense.

For me, mostly, the things that have surprised me on this forum re ages/personalities, is that I have thought quite a few people posting much older, later to learn they are much younger. The maturity of many of our teenage members is really impressive. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

I have heard that MH has some kinda chat Yahoo thingy going, where groups of members can talk re voice at the same time. Don't know if Ziroc can swing it or not, but I think that could be one way to get to know eachother truly. Not face to face, cause unfortunately we all live so spread out, a gathering in person is not possible, but at least it would be the next best thing, as talking and hearing a person's voice DOES change perspectives as I mentioned above. Dunno, sorry, I'm babbling. Just thinking of ways to mend fences and keep em mended.

PS-Yorick has a very quiet gentle voice in person http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

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Diogenes Of Pumpkintown 09-17-2001 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:
Hey dude - How do you know?? Guess she must have told you (I haven't read all the threads yet....). Yup, that's ma mommy, - I'm proud to say!

Re Greenpeace - it's going well, except we've had to cool the Stopesso campaign for obvious reasons. I got arrested on an Esso action a few weeks ago - very dramatic - the police cut through a big steel crate that I was in, that was barricading the entrance to esso's distribution plant in Essex, UK. They were pretty nice though - many of the UK police are GP members themselves.....

Glad to hear you contribute, - it all helps!


Hmmm . . . it takes some of the fun out of demonstrations if the police don't club you at least a little. It's like they don't take you seriously or something. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif j/k

Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 08:09 PM

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Originally posted by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown:
Hmmm . . . it takes some of the fun out of demonstrations if the police don't club you at least a little. It's like they don't take you seriously or something. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif j/k
Well, ACTUALLY one policewoman did stamp on my foot really hard and I had a big bruise that didn't go away for days and days (sad face) but everyone else was dead nice. (That's because GP is always non violent, and they know it. Makes life a lot easier and safer for them.)



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Fljotsdale 09-17-2001 08:13 PM

G'night, Silver feline! Can't keep eyes open any more! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MILAMBER:
OMG!! I had no idea. I seem to remember Fjlotsdale mentioning something back in the day about how she was worried her daughter would be arrested at a Greenpeace demonstration. LOL, what a small world. I guess that wisdom and a talent for writing are family traits http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif.


Tee hee!! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Well, she kept telling me what a wonderful forum it was - I'm like... yeah, yeah.....

Finally got interested when I went to visit her for a few days, - any time I turned round or stopped to draw breath, - voom!!! she was gone, vanished upstairs to chat on the forum. In the end, I just had to have a look at it to see what was so special. Losing out to a board, well.........!

But then I got hooked too! Although I do make strenuous efforts not to come on too much, as it seems to get in the way of my life to a degree that I just hadn't anticipated.... But I just can't resist, great people, great debates... What's the cure, anyone know? (No, of course you don't, other wise you wouln't be reading this, would you LOL!)


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Absynthe 09-17-2001 08:16 PM

Yorick, good post, and something I've been thinking a lot about lately. What I've noticed is that the contributions of younger members who are wise beyond their years seem to be on the rise in our little world of IW. I'm so happy to see that happening.
As to the elderly juveniles, my hope is that they will eventually go the way of the Dodo and the boojum, and softly and silently vanish away...
Hmmmmm...... Fljotsdale begat Silver Cheetah? Not too surprisingly, it seems the apple fell not far from the tree, though one seems to be the golden apple of the sun, while the other is the silvere apple of the moon.

Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fljotsdale:
G'night, Silver feline! Can't keep eyes open any more! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


Goodnight gorgeous! And sogni d'oro!



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Diogenes Of Pumpkintown 09-17-2001 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:
Hey dude - How do you know?? Guess she must have told you (I haven't read all the threads yet....). Yup, that's ma mommy, - I'm proud to say!


She mentioned it in the now locked Ignorant People thread. My response is on page 9 of that thread http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Absynthe:

Hmmmmm...... Fljotsdale begat Silver Cheetah? Not too surprisingly, it seems the apple fell not far from the tree, though one seems to be the golden apple of the sun, while the other is the silvere apple of the moon.

Ooh, Absynthe, you of the delicately pointed smooth and silver tongue, you..... Don't stop........ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


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Absynthe 09-17-2001 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:
Ooh, Absynthe, you of the delicately pointed smooth and silver tongue, you..... Don't stop........ http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif



I'll never stop, dear! I keep hoping that flattery will get me somewhere.... not that I would consider what I said to be flattery, as I do hold you and your mum in the highest regard.



Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Diogenes Of Pumpkintown:
She mentioned it in the now locked Ignorant People thread. My response is on page 9 of that thread http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif
I just went and had a look. Thanks Dio! And yes, she's a very cool mom. More like a sister than a mom really, in lots of ways. We talk a lot on the phone, I think over the past week we've spoken every night, about our fears and sorrows in regard to what has happened, as well as other, happier chats. That's nice, and I think I'm very lucky that we have such a good relationship.

It hasn't always been like that, - but we've both worked at it very hard over the years, and it's paid off big time!



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Silver Cheetah 09-17-2001 08:41 PM



Goodnight, all you sweet sweet people. Time for the ■■■■■ cat to curl up and get some sleeeeeeeeeeeeepy...........


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Diogenes Of Pumpkintown 09-17-2001 09:02 PM

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Originally posted by Silver Cheetah:
I just went and had a look. Thanks Dio! And yes, she's a very cool mom. More like a sister than a mom really, in lots of ways. We talk a lot on the phone, I think over the past week we've spoken every night, about our fears and sorrows in regard to what has happened, as well as other, happier chats. That's nice, and I think I'm very lucky that we have such a good relationship.


That's awesome! I'm sorry to say I haven't had that sort of relationship with my own parents, but I do so much hope I will with my children. I want to be their friend as much as their dad http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif


Memnoch 09-17-2001 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by ladyzekke:
Well you know, we are all here, sitting in front of a keyboard, at home, or work for some, and can type anything.
My policy is that I never say anything over the web in a manner that I would not be prepared to say face-to-face. What you see is what you get with me! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

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Ladyzekke 09-17-2001 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch:
My policy is that I never say anything over the web in a manner that I would not be prepared to say face-to-face. What you see is what you get with me! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif


Oh I know that Memnoch! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Wasn't meaning you, just the extreme flame type posts, guess I should have elaborated on that, doh!

I have always found you true-blue in my book, as you never waver and can truly be reliable http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

Anyways, Good Morning to you! And for me, Good night! (ack I hate the timezone thing, sigh)!

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Yorick 09-18-2001 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of Alcohol:
Ok I raise my hand and admit I sometimes respond in an uncivilized way.But I will say myself and Fljots disagreed and got over our disagreement. Berate me if you like but you grow rather calloused in your ways after working in the construction field after awhile. However I will strive to be more restrained in the future

Paul, I certainly wasn't referring to you mate. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif You big boofhead http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


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Liliara 09-18-2001 02:09 AM

yorick, you on MSN?

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Yorick 09-18-2001 02:13 AM

Yep

Donut 09-18-2001 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Memnoch:
My policy is that I never say anything over the web in a manner that I would not be prepared to say face-to-face. What you see is what you get with me! http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif


Okay Memnoch, if you ever come to London I'll take you to The Gunners pub and we'll test that theory. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif



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