If the male npcs were to battle it with the female npcs who do you think would win

excluding main character

<font color="teal"> Male by Far... Due to numbers.... and of course whicever Side Sarevok is on will always win ;) </font>

Yes, i'd say male. Mainly because there is so many more, but the girls would put up a good fight because they bot lots a spellcasters. Though I'm not sure Aerie would live 5 minutes into the fight.

The Guys hands down.

And personaly I don't think it would LAST five minutes- ;) -as the girls are WAY outnumbered and almost definetly outgunned. What with Edwin, Keldorn, Korgan, Minsc, ahh well 'ell you get the idea!

Male NPCs. Too many tanks. Only Mazzy would stand more then 2 seconds.

Ladies first to go. The men would brutalate them! But then Sarevok would try and kill you again probably.

<font color="gold">Male.
Mainly because the girls are way outnumbered, but also because men is much more stronger, bigger and muscular. ;) </font>

Of course this debate wont go anywhere without a female opinion. Have you guys ever experienced pure female rage? Its scary, just ask my best friend Mikey, he personally had to hold me back from beating an ex-boyfriend to death. Now if we're talking one on one, it could b evenly matched, the girl is smaller, therefore faster, yes? Of course males rely on brute strength rather then brains to win a battle(i know i know it usually works). But unless u give the girl a fighting chance, u'll never know. And ahem ahem for all the ToB players whats the gender of the final boss hmmmm? thats what i thought :D

Haha well what can i say...Lady Blue so much got a point. And what can i say...any of u guys actually being serious is scary. A guy beating a girl ?

Heh if i was involved it would evolve as this...a guy hit a girl and then i smack him down !

This topic is STUPID !
Women r there to be kissed ! Not to be as Sir Goloum put it, brutulated !

I personally wuld get the boss from IWD on ya and give ya a smack down (a demon known as Belhifet)

Damn straight Kronostia! :D Speaking from a realworld view anyway.

However this topic was made based on the game and in that sense, with game rules and such the guys could fight them and the guys proboly would win.

In the real world and if these people really existed... who knows?

I don't mean to be an anti-female guy (i love you girls), but i think it's kind of stupid that a man can't hit a girl, i mean it is stupid, but what if the girl is beating his *ss, what does the man have to do, run or scream for his momma? I think not, personally i should beat the girl, but i would grab her or something, definitely not beat them, but the girls have an advantage on this area. But i like girls

Hmm... male NPCs would definitely win... what is it, Keldorn, Minsc, Korgan, Edwin, Sarevok, Haer'Dalis, Jan, Valygar, Anomen, and the what's-his-name thief (I think that's all of them...) against Viconia, Aerie, Nalia, Mazzy, Jaheira and Imoen? First of all, it's 9 vs. 6, and, as was said before, I think, all those spellcasters would probably die in moments after being hit only a few times... and since spells take a fairly long time to cast (err... the higher level ones, anyway), and since there's only one Robe of Vecna... *wince* Not sure whether it gets better or worse in ToB, actually... but still, very low chance of the female NPCs winning. Hmm... well... actually, with time stop/improved alacrity/lot of spells in ToB, they actually have an ok chance, but I'd still have to guess that the male NPCs would win. Besides, those fancy scrolls that give total immunity to magic while not allowing you to cast spells either would make the male NPCs pretty much immune to most of the female NPCs, while if the female NPCs used them, they'd have no noticeable attack. *shrug* Ah, yes... Greater Whirlwind... one or two rounds of that, and they're dead... *shrug* when you do around 30 damage per hit, things with low hp, like mages, generally don't last long, and clerics/druids don't really have enough in the way of offensive capabilities for something like that. Oh, and giving Minsc a bow with arrows of detonation... *wince* There goes any chance of casting. *shrug*

Damn straight Kronostia! :D Speaking from a realworld view anyway.

However this topic was made based on the game and in that sense, with game rules and such the guys could fight them and the guys proboly would win.

In the real world and if these people really existed... who knows?</font>[/QUOTE]Women allow themselves to be kissed, otherwise the kissing man gets a severe slap down :D .
But lets look at it this way. A male fighter vs. female fighter/mage. Female casts charm. Guy becomes female's slave for duration of spell. After round is over, he finds he is too infatuated with the female to attack her. So they become lovers and get married. End of story. Charm is all it baby :D

Ahh... yes... sorry lady blue, as i did not mean to offened the ladies present at this forum or elsewhere, and I especialy did not mean to sound like a male chauvinist pig, which is how it must have sounded to you, and I apologize most profoundly. :D

any guy who thinks that it is unfair to not be able to hit girls is obviously lacking morals. it is unjust to hit girls even if they are hitting you. rightiousness is the key

Of course Lady Blue that the Girl must allow the kiss, but the words wasent meant to be taken literally, i was just proving a point :D .
And anyway..As DarkAngel so nicely put it, even if a girl tried to hit me i would never fight back...perhaps grab her hands ;) .

Yes, exactaly! Besides we in Shienar put too much worth in our honor and of the kindness that should be granted to all women. Again I find myself apologizing in the greatest way possible.

And as both preceeding messages stated I also would not fight a women even if she was hitting me.

Now if she had a gun pointed to my head (in this case bow. ;) ) and was screaming that she was going to blow my head off that would be another matter entirely. :D I would most likely dodge and cast a hold spell than take all of her arrows and run before she came to and grabed a sword. :D

[ 04-06-2002, 06:47 PM: Message edited by: Black_Knight ]

Who would win? I think its obvious and I can sum it up in three short letters

PMT (god its scary)

I meant they wouldn't stand a chance! They would be outnumberd and all the best fighters are MALE (no offence to female NPC lovers). They would be wiped out!

<font color="teal"> Well it is good to know that we are all completely sexist ;) </font>

O why do people alway misunderstand me, i'm not gonna hit any girl, but don't you think it's stupid at some points that a man can't defend himself? Ok, all the guys that don't agree with this, tell me what you would do (in real life) if a girl was hitting you in the face, me myself i would grab her and calm her down, but for some girls it would already be like, i'm a girl, i can hit you, you can't hit me(own experience), so isn't this kinda stupid?????? Now tell me what you would do, please.

<font color="teal"> Yeah... that is one of the biggest bummers of Eticacy (sp?) though luckily I havent been hit by a gal yet [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>

Probably a dumb question, but what is eticacy? Feel free to spoil me

<font color="teal"> Ummm.... AFAIK (Im only 14) Eticacy is manners?</font>

And what is AFAIK?

<font color="teal"> As Far As I know.</font>

I think you mean "etiquette", or?
I must agree, the female NPCs are outnumbered badly (10v6 in ToB) and for some STRANGE reason, most of the females are spellcasters (Viconia? Aerie? Imoen? Jaheira? Nalia?). I blame the game designers! [img]tongue.gif[/img] However, if the females had a few tanks on their side to keep the males away, then they'd have a good chance, IMO. And... imagine this fight WITHOUT EQUIPMENT :hehe:

<font color="gold">Ahh, but then, Kazara, would female tankers be able to hold male fighters away?
Let's face it, the only possibility the girl would have to win, was if they cast spells. Cause even if they were good fighters, they wouldnt have the man's strength and muscular body:evillaugh2:</font>

Well i could imagine a fight where the girls would win...if the entire fighting was done nude and without equipment...i can just imagine Haer`Dalis. MY RAVENS AAAAHHHHHHHH

And Anomen, Keldorn would go like. THANK YOU HELM/TORM !

And while those guys go like that the babes would kick their nasty pervert asses !

But i still strongly hold on the no battle at all thread ! Fights between the Sexes r bad. Any1 that say differently will have the EQUALISER driven up a very painful place....I choose that weapon just for the name of it. Equal !

<font color="gold">ROFL!
Very funny, Kronostia! :D </font>

Being a girl who doesn't hit people of either gender, I can't really comment on girls hitting guys and vica versa and all that. It's a rather silly thread anyways, desu ne? Put in a brawl, I wouldn't stop to consider gender.

In an in-game sense, it's said many times that gender has very little to do with the game beyond appearance/romance... so a female tank is just as... ah... tankish as any man. So then doesn't it boil down to that other thread, <font color = yellow>wizard vs. fighter</font>, with a few rogues and clerics thrown in? Most everyone agreed that the wizard could beat the warrior hands down. By that reasoning, the only way guys could win was with their superior numbers! But Aerie, Nalia, and Imoen all tossing off Horrid Wilting narrows down the field a bit... and <font color = red>Edwin</font> (the only male wizard to my knowledge) is a turncoat anyways, right? ;) So maybe this isn't such a clear-cut victory for the guys, now is it?

Their only hope, really, is Jan....

Point, if you count Edwin as a girl, it's 8v7, and almost all the spellcasters on the women's side... :D

I always find it funny, how women keep repeating "males only rely on their muscles, and have zero/none/nada brain activity involved". I guess one will try to say anything to comfort themselves..

If you mean the "fight" between in-game chars, then males would, as there are simply so many of them. Other then that, it does not matter whether the in-game char is a male or a female, as it only changes the appearance, not stats or abilities. So equally skilled and equally equipped male and female go at each other - that would really be 50/50 chance for both. Player skills would determine the outcome here.

Just to add - Edwin is a tricky person. On whos side would you place him really, as he can turn to Edwina lateron? :D As for the "enraged female", then yes, it is a scary sight, but not because I would think that person could do any bodily harm to me, no. More because you will then see the other side of that person, and may wonder that how did such a pretty person turn into such screeching Medusa :D

[ 04-08-2002, 04:58 AM: Message edited by: Whailor ]

Woman would win, cause a real man never hits a woman ^^

given that this is the SOA board, not TOB, Sarevok wouldn't even be involved.

And to the poster that said "and of course whicever Side Sarevok is on will always win", apparently you forgot the original BG.

Men would win simply because of superior number. If you took 5 SOA men vs. the Fab Five Females, it would be worthy of debate.

First of all, why does this even matter? oh well, my two cents' worth:

You have to eliminate Anomen and Keldorn, since they are too gentlemanly to hit a woman (except Bodhi, but she doesn't count), especially a former comrade. the women may have most of the mages, but the guys have all the decent thieves.
Yoshi+Invisibility+Cloak of Non-Detection+Celestial Fury+5x backstab=dead mages. Same for Jan, but with Cutthroat.

You also have to look at the design perspective. For character creation, most players are male, and most male players have male PCs. Males get 3 romance options, all of which are basically clerics, while females only get Anomen (yuck), another cleric. With a majority of male players, all of whom will roll 2 hours until they get a 96+, you don't need any high-powered guys, since you already have one. Jaheira and Mazzy are the only chicks with numerical stat scores even close to PC level.
So you have 3 clerics on one side with a few thief-mages, and a bunch of fighters, thieves, and a mage on the other. with each side having the same equipment accessible, Edwin gets the Staff of the Magi, Robe of Vecna, and various other magey-stuff, while the women have to divide it up. Clerics are also prone to spell disruption, since the Amulet of Power and Drow Chain+3 are the only ways to decrease casting time. Edwin is a conjurer (+his crazy amulet), so that makes up for Anomen's and Keldorn's foolish honor (a liability in this case).
This might make an interesting multiplayer game, but cheating is always a problem in duels of that nature.

PMT? What in the hells is that? Are you sure you dont mean PMS? lol reading this forum made completely of guys is so hilarious! Lol Glorfy when u said...how did u spell it..eticacy? I thought u were either trying to spell ecstasy or estrogen hehe :D

Funny reading, but what is ROFL( My guess: an advanced version of LOL?) and all those other abbreviations you continously use?
Feel free to spoil me or, please, give me a link to some 'ultimate abbreviation encyclopedia'? [img]smile.gif[/img]

And for the topic, I dont think the females would have a chance at all. Sorry ladies..

[ 04-08-2002, 08:05 PM: Message edited by: Xavier ]

rofl means rolling on the floor laughing, fwi [img]smile.gif[/img]
(fyi means for your information btw)
((btw means by the way))
(((sorry, im done now)))

in the game, females can be completely equal to males for tanking...but in real life, theyd have to be a big buff chick, and roleplaying that doesnt appeal to me at all [img]tongue.gif[/img]

well....or they could be like one of those chicks in ninja movies, dodging every attack instead of wearing full plate mail...i think one of these would win over some dude in plate mail because shed never get hit, imho (in my humble opinion)