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The president when he heard this returned to the washington area to the presidential bunker built to survive a nuclear attack. Any thoughts on this?
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It was announced just now that President Bush will not be returning to Washington.
His location when Air-Force One lands will not be disclosed. That is not to say though that he did not actually head for the presidential bunker in D.C. God knows he can be safe there...screw us who are left above ground. ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! [This message has been edited by Moni (edited 09-11-2001).] |
I refuse to comment on the grounds that I will write something nasty. This is not the time fot me to vent my spleen about The President. I feel bad for him having to deal with all this though.
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it's not exactly cowardice that the president and the rest of the top government officials go into hiding. without them being safe we're a country with no governing body, which is a far more dangerous thing than anything that's happened thus far.
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If I heard correctly, ABC News is going to cover a Presidential press conference at an Air Force base in Louisiana.
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You're absolutely entitled to express your opinion - we don't censor any of that here. But show a bit of tact. Leave the anti-Bush rhetoric for when people have calmed down and can respond to you rationally. It's just commonsense, I don't want you inflaming people here, ok? ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
In reality the President boarded AF1 and after that No one not involved with national security knows where he went. It only makes sense for the HEAD of a nation to go somewhere safe and well connected to all the communications devices available, there is no way he can help the nation take steps to recover and to get things under control if he does not go to a SECURE command center. It is a sure sign of ignorance of the realities of life if you think it is a sign of HIS or any of congresses cowardice to be in secure locations. I might ad that both the house and senate were evacuated and moved to secure fascilities before the prez even boarded AF1....I live in the DC area, and I have been associated with security issues in the past, things have been handled with a remarkable efficiency so far. so get off the prsidents back please. NOW is not the time for petty political potshots.
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I don't want to get into a big arguement here, but they are not going into hiding. They are going to secure locations so they can handle the situation. The word Hiding implies a lack of intention to handle the problem. Why are they "hiding"? I would say because they would be prime candidates for terrorist attacks, and if we are going to respond to this attack, they need to be alive to lead the country.
This whole thread is a moot point anyways, because as Moni said, nobody knows where they are going to. The Secret Service wouldn't disclose that information. Seriously, this is a time for us all to stand together against terrorist activity, not a time for us to pick apart our government and complain about why we don't like our president. ------------------ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -General George Patton (1885-1945) http://www.asnsoup.com/milamberanim3.gif Member of CLAN HADB [This message has been edited by MILAMBER (edited 09-11-2001).] |
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Avatar are you seriously asserting that now is not a time for seriousness?
Do you think this crisis is a time for joking and laughter? Did you post on the mature teen post? ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. |
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No on the 1st bit. Just trying to lighten up. Don't want anyone to freak out. P.S. if you are distressed better not read this. As for the latter bit. I did (very sheepishly) even weaker http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif As with all my other posts, just trying to divert attention on to laptops, cool sigs, politics, anything that will forget the bloodshed. ------------------ http://www.asnsoup.com/a.jpg [This message has been edited by Avatar (edited 09-11-2001).] |
Amen, Avatar!
The media will play this to death for us as the weeks progress. ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! |
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for my fav. Daily Telegraph (no writing but millions of colour pics) for lefty Guardian (haha stocks go down) for central Times (simple planes crahes...blah) very factual for the tabloids which I love burning for warmth (Prince William....blah) they don't care about world news. ------------------ http://www.asnsoup.com/a.jpg [This message has been edited by Avatar (edited 09-11-2001).] |
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I don't think you need to apologise at all. I hate the fact that the average person is less important than others. But it is reality we face every day. We are all not expendable. I care as much about your life as I care about my wife as I care about every person in this country. We are all as important as Mr. Bush...never, ever forget that! Mark (My 2 cents) |
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Anyway, you can't all fit in AirForce1 anyway. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ------------------ http://www.asnsoup.com/a.jpg |
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I second that...bringing the total up to 4 cents. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...s/EEhearts.gif Moni ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! |
I would also like to stress that this situation has caused a lot of tension that has a high chance of explosion. Offhand remarks due to emotions are bound to happen. That is a problem in itself, reacting harshly to these comments can make it worse. We all need to understand things have and will be written that we may not appreciate if we read them or we may regret if we write them. Just take a second to think and try not to be hard on those of us who didn't think first.
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Whoa he's getting rich. He's making more money than those on the stokes lately.
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Avatar...I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are most definatley the biggest ass I have ever encounterd on the net, I attribute it to your youth, I hope you never truely know horror in your life...then again it might just give you a soul. Moni..you are old enough to know better. Shame on you.
I am so sad that people can't put their petty fears and ignorances aside to tull together in times of tragedy. Why don't some of you go out and donate some blood because we are going to need all we can get here. 20'000+ people in the Pentagon at 9am on any particular day, 50,000+ people working at the WTC and another 10,000+ visiting the wtc...it is going to be a major strain on our blood supplies. ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. |
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I have skywalker, I have just decided that from now on any post by him will go unread on my part and uncommented on..there are bigger issues. Have you donated blood? please, if you can do so.
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I am old enough to know better than what?! I really want to know what you mean by this. I would go donate blood but they don't want mine...I'm anemic, my blood is not worthy no matter who needs it. I'm sorry...those are not my rules but that is my status as far as being a donor goes. I am doing what I can from Texas...praying for everyone involved and being with my friends here for any uplifting that may need be done. I love you. ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! |
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Moni, I don't fault you for not being able to donate, it is not your fault that you are anemic.
What I ment by you are old enough to know better, is that (in my opinion which admittedly doesnt count for much) You should not be taking cheap shots at any of our leadership in this time of grief and crisis and egging on a juvenile person to do the same. Sorry if that was not your intent, but being here very close to the pentagon, Im not in much of a mood to make fine distinctions of "humor" for people joking about the deaths of my friends and countrymen. ------------------ Disintigration is easy, If you really want to impress me, ReIntegrate it. |
Legolas...what could he do by going to washington that would save lives and start the motions of recovery that he can't do better from a command bunker specificly designed for him to do just that?
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Look, nobody is saying people can't make cheap shots against Bush or whatever. We all have our political leanings. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif I won't censor anything people say, you're entitled to make your statements! It's a good idea to lighten up some of the tension with humor and flippancy. But I just think from a commonsense point of view, that maybe we might all show a bit of tact, knowing that some people feel strongly about certain issues at this emotionally-charged time. Just like you wouldn't joke about a deceased person's bad habits at their funeral. You might do it at the pub when you're all having a beer and trying to cheer yourselves up. It's a question of tact, fellow board members (saying this as a fellow member not a mod). http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
My advice is just give this a bit of time to settle, and know the right time to say things. Fair enough? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
Another thing to skywalker's point, people may say things in the heat of the moment that could be construed wrongly - let's all remember that it *is* an emotional time, and try to be a bit tolerant of what people may type. Remember, it's hard on the net to gauge body language http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif and know how people are really feeling.
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The purpose of terrorism is to cause political unrest, right? Look at what we're doing here. Political unrest is exactly what's happening. In a time when the entire United States (and for that matter, the world)should be pulling together against terrorism, we aren't; and do you know why? Because of political disagreements. We are criticizing our leadership before they have even done anything yet!! Lets give them the benifit of the doubt and judge after the fact. If you ask me, Bush Sr. didn't do too bad in the gulf, so maybe his son will do ok now. Colin Powell is flying back from Peru to help, and he's a man I completely trust as someone with no personal agenda.
I know we all have our beliefs and nobody is asking them to be changed or stifled. All I'm saying, is that it was AMERICA that was attacked, not just New York, not just Washington, but our whole country. I am on the other side of the continent, yet I was attacked too. Lets just make sure that all the attacking is coming from the outside. ------------------ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -General George Patton (1885-1945) http://www.asnsoup.com/milamberanim3.gif Member of CLAN HADB |
I am fortunate that I have no actual family in the Pentagon but I do have friends that I cannot contact http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif I can't even help because they have closed all roads into the DC area. All I could do is give blood and wait..just like everyone else.
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I am not against stifling my opinions out of respect for others. Its OK. I felt the attack myself...I broke down and cried in my dentist's office in front of all the other people there watching the initial coverage. My dentist and his assistant held me and hugged me and offered me support. I have a family member still unaccounted for in Washington DC. My first and favorite nephew, a man who twenty years ago I was a nanny to for two years...I potty trained him, taught him how to speak properly, I taught him how to read and write, among other things. I am his "Aunt Mick" and we love each other as much as is possible for a motherly figure and the figurative son that he is to me. Even though I am not in the center of the destruction, it should not be thought that I have no heart or do not care or have any feelings about it because I refuse to allow grief to consume me right now. Maybe later I'll cry more, but for right now, I feel strong, I have faith in the people on the scenes who are there to help the injured. I have faith in my fellow countrymen to carry us all through this so that we can all live again. ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! |
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Addressing the blood...people are literally lined up in the streets outside of NY hospitals waiting to give blood. Its awesome! I'm going to go down to the local red cross myself tomorrow(day off) and donate. Already called my congressmans office to find out where to send money to help with costs. And people. Please stop with the petty sniping. Like it or lump it. George Bush is our President. Get behind him, and support him in this time of national crisis. Dont be petty and tear him down. For all of those outside the US, please dont snipe at our Chief Exec. now is not the right time to engage in political sniping. You are very likely to get rather viciously bitten by people who would normally be very nice. We, as a general rule, have a tendency to forget all of our differences in the face of outside threat, and nuke said threat back to the stone age. Thee against Me...but Thee *AND* Me against an outside enemy. |
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[I]Somehow this post was the beginning of something that screwed up this thread completely (it showed up in code with everyone's posts combined and garbled on this end) so I deleted it and am reposting what I had earlier so that my words to MajiK do not go unheard.
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I don't think any jokes made were at the expense of your friends and family or any victims for that matter and I apologize that you have been hurt not just by the tragedies that occured today, but by what you have read here as well. I do love you and out of respect for you, I will be more careful about what I say about Mr. Bush. ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif You know childhood is over when a puddle seems like an obstacle instead of an opportunity. Is Too! Is Not! Is Too! Is Not! |
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