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I've noted quite a few Ironworks forums in which people have been speaking in several different languages. Does everyone think we should just stick to english or let everyone speak whatever they want?
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Are you crazy? This is an international board, if you want to speak Swedish/Spannish/German/Mandarin/Tagolog/whatever then they can. Hopefully someone speaks the language and can help. The diversity of our board is what makes it what it is. See LadyZeekes thread to understand
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It doesn't bother me. If we can ask sensative people to ignore threads that they might find offensive, I have no problems ignoring threads that I don't even understand.
On a totally unrelated side note though, a HUGE PET PEEVE: Asian signs on buildings in Southern California. There are a couple of cities that I can't even drive in because all of the signs on the stores are in some other asian language. It is like I crossed over some invisible border to a different country. This is supposed to be America for the love of Buddha! ------------------ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -General George Patton (1885-1945) http://www.asnsoup.com/milamberanim3.gif Member of CLAN HADB |
Lol...I am pretty crazy, but that's beside the point. I was just wondering about it seeing as it tends to piss of the moderators... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/hihi.gif
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I think we should stick to english, it makes sure that everyone can read the thread
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Post away, but I think its Zirocs callhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Love you guys. Only Spanish and english here. Touch of German Ramonhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
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No problems here.
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1.- How can you think the moderators can moderate a thread in chinese ?? or in swedish ?? or in swahili ?? 2.- People could feel OUT if they see threads that they cant understand. 3.- This site is in english, so i guess its directed to people who speak english. 4.- Would it be pleasant taking a look at the forums and seeing threads in 7-8 different languages ?? it would be a jungle </font> ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/ertai2.gif "I wish my Angel was here... I fear nothing with her" -Ertai, Captive of the Blinding Angel |
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language? It is a nation of immigrants after all. I could be wrong but in multi-cultural nations (of which i come from one: Canada) any language goes on signs...except Quebec where if its not french you get fined! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/DRUIDD.gif |
I say we all go with pig-latin!
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no. no. (very excited) how about we speak in tongues? (hey, just go and visit the yorick thread - you'll get it).
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sorry. i'm crying with hysterical laughter at the thought. shit. hope no-one from that thread enters this one -- oops
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In the past, it has been our habit to post mainly in English. Of course posts in other languages are done and are welcomed by those who can read them, but entire threads devoted to non-English posts have been labeled as such and often translations were included so everyone could enjoy reading them.
There is obviously nothing wrong with some postings in other languages, we are an international lot...but keep in mind that Ertai's points are very valid as well. The majority by far, has English as their common language and the board IS based in an English Speaking country. Non-English posts may not be understood by moderators who must maintain the standards of the forum (ie: watch for use of obscenity, topics unfit for children , insults/flames etc) and cannot do their jobs if they cannot follow an entire thread. I will say that I do not object to seeing the occasional threads on languages and postings in various languages, myself. It is fascinating to me, but then I studied a few over the years. Having said this, I'm going to add that I would be left out completely from entire threads held exclusively in say- Spanish, French or even German which I have studied a little. You do exclude the bulk of the members by holding an entire thread in another language. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Cloudy, with her 2 cents worth ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/bestow1.jpg Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan Storm-Queen StormCloud of the Black Knight: Heart Mind Soul Forever "To sleep, perchance to dream..." |
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But I keep telling myself it is only temporary. The UK - like America - has 'hosted' many 'aliens' - Romans, Normans, 'Vikings' Angles, Saxons, etc. When these people first came into the country (invaded, lol!) they spoke their own language, used their own written language, and the currently 'ingigenous' population were shoved aside... but in the fullness of time, the invader was absorbed. OK, so the indigenous population had to alter somewhat to absorb them, but the invaders DID gradually become British. The same will happen with our current 'invaders'. The British and the American will change to absorb them - but they will become British, or American, and we will have grown and been enriched in the process... it is just a bit difficult to appreciate that at the moment... sigh! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif ------------------ http://www.ranchoweb.com/images/bg2guy/bitchingcopy.gif http://www.ranchoweb.com/images/bg2guy/fljotsdale.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/EEhearts.gif |
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I, for one, don't find your posts amusing or particularly useful to this discussion. Cloudbringer ------------------ http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/bestow1.jpg Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan Storm-Queen StormCloud of the Black Knight: Heart Mind Soul Forever "To sleep, perchance to dream..." |
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I didn´t want to offend anyone with my -germans- thread. I only thought that this would be the best way to reach some other german-speaking members whose profile doesn´t include their hometown or country. Even people from the Netherlands replied. I thought that is what such a forum is all about. And, I can assure you, we did not write anything offensive. So, if it doesn´t become a regular way of posting and is reduced to a special thread like mine, noone should care.To Ertai: I understand that the moderators need to maintain the terms of membership and will try to give my best by posting most of my messages in english. THX
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HEY! I just noticed! I'm a <font color=silver>SILVER DRAGON!</font> HA! I've wanted to be silver dragon since I joined the forum! ------------------ http://www.ranchoweb.com/images/bg2guy/bitchingcopy.gif http://www.ranchoweb.com/images/bg2guy/fljotsdale.gif :ladyhearts: [This message has been edited by Fljotsdale (edited 07-24-2001).] |
multiculturalism is wonderful thing. here in birmingham, i live quite close to an area that is largely populated by pakistani's, hindu's and others' from the indian subcontinent. i like to see arabic writing and colourful garments and many languages being spoken. it's amazing actually - a few years' ago, the 'whites' and 'asians' were very suspicious of each other and didn't mix, but since i've moved back to the city i've noticed how people are much more accepting of cultural difference. it's really nice to see two old men strolling along the road chatting - one in a turban and other in a flat cap! similarly, the young folk are dating each other and it's no longer unusual to see white/asian marriages. i think people are at last beginning to realise that colour/cultural difference can be v. positive. not to say that problems don't exist, because they do - there just seems to be more of a carnival atmosphere in brum because it's so common here we've got people from all over the world who've settled here. it's just that if you're black or asian, your nationality is more obvious than if you're slavic, italian or french.
if any of you folk ever visit england - come to birmingham, we have the most amazing food (balti, not curry - although similar) you'll ever taste - people travel from far and wide to visit the restaurants on ladypool road - and lucky me, i live 10 minutes away, hurrah! |
It's ok to use other languages in threads for the purposes that Debiler mentioned above - if you want to meet other people who speak the same language. I myself speak three languages and will occasionally make a comment to someone in another language. But it is common courtesy on forums to use a language that everyone can understand - in this case it's English. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
It's ok to use another language once in a while - but try not to make it a habit and try not to devote entire threads to it. That's what email is for. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif ------------------ http://www.angelfire.com/anime2/memnoch/memnochsig.gif |
Hi, Memnoch! Did you have a good birthday? And how is Ziroc and his mom, do you know? I haven't seen a post from him today..
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On signs: i'm pro for...at least in my country and i would think the US too because its inclusion policies seem to be pretty similar AFAIK...We all live here...we all speak different languages...if you want a sign in a language other than english its my loss for not being able to read it IMHO...I am not going to demand you write it in english. Will i also demand you speak only english to me?...or condemn you for not knowing english in a country that is made up of citzens from the world over regardless of language, race, etc.? As far as threads in other languages...I don't really care either way...who am I to tell someone what they can and cannot post. But i do think that due to moderating issues they should probably be in one language... Does that work with signs too?...To a certain degree i suppose. I know that in Quebec language on signs is a big issue and caused a lot of debates...some of which i've gotten into only to regret it. I think that there is a committee that acts as a watchdog to make sure the signs are bi-lingual. I know that if you have a sign in english and it has no french on it you can get fined. I read an article that said one restauranteur was fined three times for having the word EXIT on his door in english only. If he did not add the french equivalent he would be facing jail time. Is that not ridiculous? Preservation of francophone culture and language demands that EXIT say 'sortie' (is that right?) If a chinese store owner in a predominantly chinese neighbourhood has a sign on his door that says 'exit' in chinese only will you fine him? It's a hazy line that needs to be drawn for sure...Sorry for the rant. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/DRUIDD.gif |
I haven't heard. And yes, I had a good birthday - I'm still recovering today. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif
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We just locally went through the "official language" debate, and came up with a few workable things: Anything that is an official governmental notice should be printed in english and whatever other language(s) predominant in the area where it is posted. Private postings are excepted from this save for instances wherein warnings are necessary for health/safety reasons. Seemed pretty logical to me.
Similarly, I would think that general postings at IW should be in english, but if you want to post a welcome or whatever in a different language, that would be fine also. I've seen lots of comments in different languages tagged on to various posts, and I certainly don't feel uncomfortable with it. I like the idea that we have a community of such variety. Tracey - I thought your take on speaking in tongues was a hoot, lmao. Absynthe the Inappropriate |
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Fljotsdale - i find that i censor myself heavily to avoid distressing some of the folks here. I do this not out of some sense of obligation, but because I actually care for them. My sense of humor is pretty, well, umm, wrong, for lack of a better word. The more serious something is taken, the more humor potential it has for me, hence the opportunities for humor in religion are pretty thick on the ground. I would like to see more from both Tracey and yourself, as I think you both have a nice grasp of the absurd.
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In reply to this thread I think people should speak whatever language they want. If you can't understand it, ask someone or don't bother. Oh yeah if anyone knows about Ziroc's mom please tell us. ------------------ Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I just don't have to listen. http://train.missouri.org/~prestons/.../flamedrag.gif |
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you are a sufferer from inappropriate laughter syndrome by the sound of it. it's a very serious condition indeed and i and several of my fellow sufferers are considering applying for funding so that we can form our own self help group! (we're actually not - i hasten to add) our most recent descent into the naughty world of ILS was my best friend - out on a date with very new potential boyfriend. they were having a very nice evening and had begun to chat about ex's, jeremy confessed that he was still feeling a little bit upset as his ex-girlfriend nora, wasn't so much an ex, as dead. at this point my friend had to look away and sink her fingernails rather hard into her leg - resulting in an expression of pained concern which jeremy took as encouragment. jeremy continued: she was a keen hill walker (pause, tamsin starts to feel lips twitching and a bubble of giggle rising) but she wasn't very good at it. (inner hysteria threatens to give her a hernia) she went up a hill without a map and got a bit lost and then the mist rolled in and she.....fell into a ravine. tamsin had to leave the table and make a hasty exit into the loo with tears of pain and suppressed laughter rolling down her cheeks. a few days later, the story got even worse. apparently, jeremy and nora (poor girl) had been having an on/off relationship for 8 years, but had never kissed or anything. well, the weekend that she fell of/into the ravine they had decided that they did love each other and were very happy, but tragically, the one night they actually spent together in the same bed, nora discovered that her period had started, so they never even got to have sex!!! and then she died. i rather like that story - it's just so bizarre and soooo painfully funny because it's not. tamsin tells it better in the flesh, she keeps saying things like 'it's really not that funny, no. it really isn't'. and then collapsing in a heap of bendy bones. |
Tracey! LMAO!! Oh lord, that is exactly what I was talking about! It's sad, tragic, full of pathos, and so damn funny I sprained a rib laughing!
I know a lot of people find this sort of thing to be totally wrong, but I see it as the ultimate catharsis. So anyway, to avoid dragging this thread way off-topic...I'm going to start a new thread just for the inappropriate among us... |
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Actually for the most part province to province its english. I live on the west coast where it is mostly english. But in the east lots of french and english. Different dialects and so forth like your southern accents and your brooklyn accents and so on. Here its your Ontario accent, maritimers, and the westerners...sure theres a few others... Ontario french and Quebecois french?
Plus First Nations languages that are still used...dont know how if there are that many left who still speak them though unfortunatly. In Vancouver, where i have lived in the past and still live a short distance away on Vancouver Island, there is a lot of oriental people. The majority of the people who live there i think are oriental. Even though the language is 'officially' english if the majority of people are chinese shouldnt there signs be in there language? If you go into chinatown or little italy or whatever i would expect the signs to be in that language. i know the official language is english but if the majority of people coming in are not english then sometime down the road, much to my english speaking dismay, the official language will change...wont it? I guess what it comes down to is: 'Do i expect the people in my country to speak english (or french)?' I don't. I live in a multi cultural country with two official languages and i still don't expect you to learn my language. But thats just me and my opinion. Your right though about the street signs though. This is why virtually everywhere i think there is the universal octagon stop sign, triangular yield etc. It might say 'arret' or 'stop' but its still a big red octagon. World without borders. Anyways thanks for debating with me a little Milamber. I do see your side of the story and i respect it...sucks to be in your own town and not know what all the billboards say! Billboards?...er...Then again... If in the far flung future the EU and the Asian Pacific Consortium and the United African States and the Union of all other Nations join to form One Nation on One Earth...what will the official language be? The language that the majority speaks? How about none... For some reason i thought that the US did not ever specify that it had an 'official' language. And i wrote my earlier posts with that in mind. I thought it was always assumed that it was english. But I dont know why i thought this, a stray thought...just dumb i guess. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/DRUIDD.gif [This message has been edited by Djinn Raffo (edited 07-25-2001).] |
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