It is not the intention of this thread to be anything more than a source for help in dealing with depression, a place where we can converse on the subject, and a place where we can share any sadness we may be experiencing and perhaps offer positive solutions to our fellow forum members.

Please also keep in mind that what works for one person may not work for another and as well-meaning as some of our positive suggestions may be, if someone says they have tried it and it did not work, don't push it. Thanks. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

If you have a link to a site that deals with various methods of treating depression or links with emergency hotlines, etc. please feel free to post them here. Sometimes all it takes is the click of a button or the ability to call someone (even a stranger) who cares to save a life.

Please keep this thread free of flaming anyone for any reason and small talk that does not relate to the topic. For your cooperation in this regard, everyone here appreciates it and thanks you.


The following link is for anyone who wishes more insight into the disease, its symptoms and diagnosis, causes, treatments, and the role of family members in dealing with depression.

Psychiatry 24x7

Contributed by Moridin as well the following link deals with Psychotherapy vs Medication For Depression:

Challenging the Conventional Wisdom With Data

Love, Hugs & Peace,
Moni



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Wow Moni, Thanks alot for the link..

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This is a link to the National Institute of Mental Health brochure giving a summary of the most up to date research on all kinds of treatment for Depression. The NIMH is an independant organisation in the United Kingdom; and is well respected and supported by psychaitrists, psychologists and psychotherapists alike (in other words doctors, and those offering talking treatments).

There is a bit of jargon in the brochure - but not too much and you should be able to understand most of it. If you need a "translation" please feel free to ask me.

http://alcoholism.about.com/health/a...y/blnimh04.htm

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I also have a link that I have used extensively in my 'research' into depression. It is from the Mayo Clinic, one of the world's foremost teaching and research hospitals (and my dad works there so I have to plug it http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif)

This is for the search page. Type 'depression' in and hit go!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/home?id=10.1

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[This message has been edited by Moridin (edited 06-23-2001).]

how can i treat my depression when it involes no vices and just my inner heart and mind..?

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Bahamut,

Do you know what it is that is making you so sad?
Once you figure that out, you can work on making the situation a happier one.

But, sometimes, like when our depression involves what we want of other people, if we talk to them about it and they are unwilling to find a compromise with us, there is nothing we can do but accept them for who they are and what they want to do with their own lives.
If that is the case, only time can make you feel better, but don't dwell on their choices and find other things to do so that you won't find yourself thinking about it all the time and remaining depressed over it.

*HUGS*
Moni

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well... hmmm.. it seems rather a hard one.

I have been happy recently, but even if you know the problem, the feeling of helplessness really overwhelms you.. it does...


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*HUGS* My friend.
I hope the situation can work itself out in a way that can make everyone involved happy.
I am not sure I know the details but I understand the feeling of helplessness.
It can be overwhelming, yes.

I still feel helpless where my family members are involved. I can't even think about them without feeling hurt that as old as they are, they still treat me terribly because as long as they do, they have our mother's "love". She moved in with my older brother right after our dad died and he has become such a cruel person that I can't even talk to him anymore. I miss him terribly, but there is nothing I can do but find other things to think about and wish him happiness before he is gone from the earth.

*More Hugs*
*Some More Hugs*
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Bahamut - I cant tell you how you can deal with your depression wothout knowing far, far more about it than would be appropriate for you too post on an open forum.

If you really would like my advice email me. jude@judyhope.co.uk

I am a psychiatrist and as part of my training I hav elearned psychotherappy as well, so I know aobut both talking treatments and physical ones like medication. I CANT treat you but I can help you decide where to go for help if that is what you want. There is absolutely no pressure on you to come to me for advice - no way will I be offended if you don't. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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Let's make our posts in this thread in the spirit of how Moni intended it to be, and I'll be very happy. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif

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A great idea Moni, just wanted to keep it on the front page for more people to see it.

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well no need to worry kiwidoc! ill contact you when the problem arises.. again.

well dot hug me too much moni ill get all mushy!!!!! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif

and now ill make memncoh happy! sorry! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif

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i would just like to tell everyone that i suffer from what might be Manic Depression. at times, i am really hyper and happy. at others, i am just dead tired and angry, with a mean pain in my shoulder (this is at 4 P.M. and ive only been up for 4 hours!). if any of you know an online therapist that will treat(or diagnose) me for free, please feel free to tell me. i dont think a real therapist will help me cuz im underage, and cant afford to pay for a session.

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You live with this pain daily or is it something that is just bothering you right now from an injury?
I'll look for links for you.

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I have come to an interesting conclusion, regarding this matter, which is interesting for me...

I would consider myself to be an empathic person, I always try to understand and help people when they are down, or upset. I don't do it for personal gain (although it often helps me out), I just do it... But a lot of the time, I try to take on other peoples problems. I have realised (or at least tried to) lately that there is only so much that I can do to help someone. And worrying about it is not going to make things better.
Most of the time when I get depressed, it is around the time of something big that has happened, or when a number of things happen at once. It is like a build up of stress, which just bursts at some time.

I don't think I am a manic Depressive, because I don't usually become depressed for no reason, but I certainly have difficulty dealing with certain things. I often just get really annoyed thinking about trivial things which I realise later, matter very little. It is not fun, and I am not a very good person to be around in these stages.

Just recently I have been having acupuncture theropy (ouch!), which stimulates nerves. One of the main causes of depression is thought to be a deficiency in the chemical "serotonin", and the acupuncture is supposed to (and has been proven to) increase the release of serotonin by stimulating neurotransmitters, which release the chemical.
It is estimated that 1 in 4 adolensents suffer from some form of depression, and the rate increases into middle age, where 1 in 3 people suffer from depression of some kind. It's pretty startling really, when you think about it. Most of the people who suffer from depression will go through their lives thinking that it is normal to feel flat all of the time, and to have intrusive thoughts and so on.

Moni has posted that URL of some good sites that might be able to help some of you, so check them out. I am not sure how this treatment I am getting is working, but I certainly feel a lot better, but maybe that is because I am on a high at the moment... we will see - sometimes its a bit like a roller coaster (get that Javi? http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif)

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Moni, and all. I found this in the health section in todays newspaper.
Sorry everyone. It won't take it for some reason. Go to health section here and read "The Depression Virus, Mybe" washingtonpost.com ------------------
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