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<font color="gold">I thought this would be a good place to rant and get some free advice. Many of you love doing that sorta thing! OK. About 1 year ago this month, my wife and I moved into our first home. Naturally, wanting to make friends with our neighbors, we allowed their teenage boys to borrow tools that I had for whatever. Whenever they needed a few bucks, or a couple eggs, we would give it to them. Gas for the lawnmower, as well. (By the way, the grocery store and gas station are both just a walk away.) We never asked for anything in return. The asking of us to help them grew steadily over the year, yet we always gave without any conservation, (though we are in a bit of a financial strain at the moment), always knowing that good is returned to you.
(I forgot to mention that these neighbors are black...no father in the home, Mom works all the time, 3 sons, oldest is 15yr). I don't know if that matters to any of you. Anyway, finally when he knocks on my door at 10pm, waking the baby with the door bell, asking for three eggs, I snapped. I reminded him of the time, and told him the truth that we did not even have three eggs. He went to the little old lady's house(across the street) next. Now, when we caught one of the boys with our gas can without first asking for it, that again kindled the fire. We told them about how we felt, and told him we saw his actions as stealing. (two days later, he did it again....and did'nt even try to hide it. He just left the gas can, empty, on my front poarch.!!!) Now, the reason that I would not want to come out in the open and flame them and their mom is because I am afraid that they will proceed to do all manner of maliciousness to my home while I am not there. They could get angry that I am taking the defensive, which will spark them to do worse things, just to be on top. Believe me, I know this sort of rationalizing. For the protection of my home and family, I have remained basically quite. Even the old lady neighbor across the street says that I should not start anything. So what the flip do I do?????????????????????????????????</font color> ------------------ http://www.dewa.com/animated/7.gif Larry, Loyal guardian of the OHF Devoted member of the Ironworks Only member of the Elite Bodyguard to Rikard (the fool that takes the bullet) Ertai's back-up Memnoch's chief look-out Member of the Ancients club |
Why cant we have NORMAL NIEGHBORS! I dont know if you have seen my episode with mine Larry of the famous OHF, (lesson learned) but the fool was shooting out his window again this weekend!. Well, my advise to you is keep your goods locked up and give these kids street talks every time you see one of them. They will get sick of the lectures and avoid you in the end. Mybe just one lecture might take hold before that...Good luck
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Hate to say it, but you should call the police. They obvouisly don't respect
you now and probably won't in the future eitave to take advantage of her. Shame people have to take advantage of generosity (sp) like that. ------------------ Sir Taliesin http://www.dabros.com/images/sigs/giant.gif If they take my gun can I still use my Axe? |
Larry,
You certainly are in a bind http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif I personally would approach thier Mother and explain to her first what is going on (as you believe it to be) I would explain if things persist you have done your best to keep peace and the next step I would explain will be measures you both would rather not see come to pass. Contact the Police. As long as you allow it to go on it will only escalate until your back is completely against the wall and you may end up doing something both parties will regret? let thier mother know that and if she cant resolve the matter you will be forced to report it to the police. dont be a victim of your own home.. I think you owe it to yourself as well as your family to resolve the matter quickly and swiftly. Best of luck my friend ! ------------------ http://www.gldb.com/wayno/wizard1.gif http://www.gldb.com/wayno/name.gif Walk lightly my friend. |
Larry,
I can sympathize. Whew! Sometimes neighbors are just not a whole lot of good! My only adjacent neighbor (I'm on a corner, empty lot behind me) has a nasty habit of having loud (drunk shouting matches) parties in his garage and driveway which are a little under 30 ft from my bedroom...sigh....at midnight they are just getting loud enough to really annoy me and by 3am I want to scream! I HAVE asked them to stop and they kept it up til last year. Don't know what this year will bring but I'm through being nice neighbor and will report them...oh yes, rather than use one of the three bathrooms in the house they use the lawn near my fence...lovely view from upstairs in my place... They also send people away drunk. THAT is something I will report from now on. Drunk driving is on my list of 'not gonna ignore this' stuff. I've seen too many people hurt that way. One other neighbor of mine has said she'd call in a complaint if I ever need to so it won't be just ONE but 'several' when the police talk to the offenders. As for your situation, I'm thinking that Conan has a plan you might try. If not, the take Sir Taliesin's advice next time things disappear! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Cloudy ------------------ http://publish.hometown.aol.com/tobb...s/bestow~1.jpg Raindancer of the Laughing Hyenas Clan Storm-Queen StormCloud of the Black Knight Heart Mind Soul Forever |
I think you should first go to the mother and talk to her. Because what happens next would depend on whether she is aware of what her sons do or not. Calling the police should not be done first, because the police won't really be able to do anything unless you make a full complain for thievery, and then the guys may think you are a coward and start do nasty things to you and your family. It would happen like that in France, anyway. I DID have once the same kind of neighbour Clouddy has, we asked them to stop making noise late, they didn't stop, we called the police once, the police went to their places and asked them to stop then went away, then the neighbours started doing unpleasant things to us. We moved out eventually.
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In an apartment/town house community it's easy...report them to the landlords/property managers. They're generally out of there depending on the offense.
Happened with us earlier this month..our cretin redneck neighbors decided it would be jolly good fun to shoot out every single stinkin' window in their garage for "Cinco de Mayo"...for about 20 minutes all you could here was shattering glass and drunken laughing and cussing...and our windows and doors were closed. I'm sure everyone in the neighborhood heard it. I put a call in to "property management" and I noticed that they were moving out the next week...can you say "eviction", kids? Sure ya can! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif After the cruds were gone they must have had to completely refurbish that apartment...every piece of carpet was out on the front lawn, and even a broken toilet. I don't even want to imagine what was going on in there. They just rented that townhouse out to a couple of nice, quiet college girls. Both my wife and I have breathed a sigh of relief. I have a feeling that we weren't the only persons to call that day, though. Larry, I'd talk with the mother if I were you, but no guarantees...if she starts getting in your face and sassing you, leave and take matters to the next step. I feel for you. Hopefully the advice posted in this thread will help! http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/saz.gif |
<font color="plum">Thanks guys/gals. It helps to hear that. Even though I knew how, receiving confirmation first is always the best, and getting different points of views from several people is a great way to do things "the best way".</font color>
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I would get a big nasty guard dog, or maybe a huge guard anaconda, or maybe put barbed wire around my property, I bet that would at least slow them.
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Do what Ziroc said Larry! It'll take the little thieves days to figure out why their cars won't run. Although if the gas if for the lawnmower, then you've got a neighbor with an out of control yard... I guess I'm more direct that most folks... I'd recommend that you talk to their Mother, like everyone else said. However, I have a sneaking suspicion (from my city living days in both Chicago and St. Louis) that you may get a whole lot of "sass" to quote Sazerac. Now...assuming that you live in North Carolina, they probably don't want any trouble with the cops. Don't hesitate to call them if this sh*t doesn't stop. ------------------ http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/MON18.gif Now where did I leave that doughnut?! |
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Ziroc, you are WICKED! Make sure you leave a little gasoline in there for the smell, otherwise they'll be wise to it. Good suggestion! http://www.wizardrealm.com/images/saz.gif |
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thanks everyone for your wonderful ideas. I will let you know how it goes. Man, and the only thing I could come up with was a bear trap in the shed! ------------------ http://www.dewa.com/animated/7.gif Larry, Loyal guardian of the OHF Devoted member of the Ironworks Only member of the Elite Bodyguard to Rikard (the fool that takes the bullet) Ertai's back-up Memnoch's chief look-out Member of the Ancients club |
Evil idea http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif, tell us if you catch anything in the trap http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif, I would still get a HUGE guard anaconda.
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I LOVE Zirocs idea ! Try talking to momma If the momma gives you any shit, you could put a locking gas cap on her car and throw away the keyhttp://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif Thats....FUN!!!! Calling the cops should be last resort in this case.
Conan, how is this guy still getting away with this? I grew up in Springfield, theres nowhere to shoot firearms there! The guys a menace! Call the cops again.Do any other neighbors know he is doing this? I mean theres people who could get shot, and even .22 bullets hurt! I know! |
1. Talk to mom.
2. Fill gas can with water, sugar, and just enough gas to get the smell and color (have to be sneaky). 3. Lock doors with gas can outside. 4. Smile contentedly. ------------------ Gaelic |
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That is actually a good idea, too - so long as you don't forget and use it yourself, lol! Before I tell you my tale of woe, I agree with most everyone else - speak to the mother. Could be she has no idea what her boys are doing. If she does, and she is unhelpful, you have a choice of either locking everything up or or mentioning to her your country's equivalent of Britain's Social Services on account of her boys being 'out of control'. I would suggest this before police. D'ya wanna hear my story now? I used to live on the top floor in a low-rise block of flats with my husband and children. A new family moved into the ground floor, and I made them welcome, as you do, and asked if their children would like to play with mine, etc - all the normal stuff. All seemed well for a while, but then my children started to complain that her children were taking their toys and pushing my son around (he was the youngest of them). I had a quiet word with the mother, who said it was my children causing the problem, not hers. Ok. It was probably both lots. Eventually, my children refused to play with hers... That is when the real trouble started. I cannot imagine the reason, but the wife became increasingly hostile towards me and my children (but the family were great friends with my husband!). One day, one of her children pushed my son down some steps. and my younger daughter, who was there, flew into a rage and pulled the other child's hair - kid stuff, but nasty. She came to my door threatening me with the police, and started accusing me of being a witch and a satanist (sheesh!!). Anyway, I kept my cool. I just said "I'm sorry. I don't have to listen to this. I'm closing the door now." She immediately jammed her foot against the door to stop me, all the while swearing abominably. I kept pushing. Not hard, but steadily. Eventually, I got the door shut, but the toe of her slipper was jammed under the door. She went into an even greater rage, turned half away from the door (glass) then swung back and slammed her fist through it, showering both myself and my (naturally avidly curious) children with glass. She then stormed off downstairs again, yelling and swearing at me all the way, while I stood in stunned amazement. Then I started to clean up the glass. About 30 minutes late two grim policemen were at my door charging me with assault. Silly woman had cut herself very badly on the glass and had told the policemen that I had deliberately slammed the door on her arm, causing it to go through the glass... My jaw dropped. And I was scared!! How could I defend myself? What proof had I got that I had not done so? I was panicking, I can tell you! Then I remembered how difficult it had been to close the door... In fact, her slipper was still stuck underneath, even though I had opened it for the policemen. Hugely relieved, I pointed to it, and told the police what had happened. Their attitude changed. Suddenly I was no longer a criminal. They went back to her and issued a warning about malicious defamation and calling out the police without good reason. It turned out, in the long run, that this family had been kicked out of home after home due to their appalling behaviour. They had apparantly never lived anywhere longer than a couple of years - the neighbours always complaind too much and had 'em thrown out. ------------------ http://www.ranchoweb.com/images/bg2guy/bitchingcopy.gif http://www.ranchoweb.com/images/bg2guy/fljotsdale.gif http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...s/EEhearts.gif |
Fljotsdale: how lucky you were that the maniac was fool enough to leave evidence! I felt for you the entire way through your story. Whew!
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Where I used to live in Texas, I heard a little story from my neighbor there. Apparently there was a house across the street and down about 3 houses from mine (straight across from my neighbor) where the residents were out of control party-people and, likely, dealing a few illicit substances from there. After repeated fruitless requests by him, other neighbors, and the police, the problems got worse. The gentlemans driveway was repeatedly blocked at all hours by party-goers and "customers." The man worked for the power company of a neighboring town and, through friends, arranged to have their power cut off. Another friend of his arranged to kill their phone service. They vacated within 2 weeks.
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Damn Fljotsdale, you were lucky that damn b*tch left her slipper, it was a close one, imagine what would have happened if she HADN'T left that slipper.
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Hmm, my two cents.. Zirocs idea is just wonderful, but if you are afraid to press charges, how would they rect if they use that gas for the car??
Well first of all, get a lock to your shed, a friendly alarm, the fuse to a landmine worls like a charm, used that against apple thieves a couple of years back... Goes with a boom in a secure area but that boom and a tripwire scares people like hell http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif Get a lamp with a sensor, that way everybody can see them wandering up your yard. That way people will see what is going on and well.. Vitnesses is good to have should this thing go further.. Talk to the mom, if she is like the quennmother of arden thieves i would suggest that you take this up with local authorities and talk about what can be done and so on.. If nothing works.. well try get some rocketfuel or fuel for dragsters... That can be at least as fun as suger and water.... http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif ------------------ http://wolfgir.najk.net/wolfie.gif Yawning lazywolf heading for the cliffs... |
hmm... i really love Zirocs idea.. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif and that should piss them off too since thier machine will have to go to the repair shop without them knowing that you did it. (grin). lots of people out there have shared thier experiece with this kind of matter and i agree with all of them.. (except the anaconda part). the only real concern i have is the retaliation from the kids. as you know hormones + free time= ruly tennagers and i dont want them going into rages. (im a pacifist) but i whole heatedly agree with
1) calling mommy first 2) then put the sugar in gas http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif 3) call the police (at the same time make your house burlger proof) 4) (if you ever reach the fourth one) then get a guard dog with a bad attitude http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif hope this helps !! ------------------ Revived I Am to hunt this world... Banish ye evil or face my wrath... |
Or chase em down the street with a machete when they steal stuff. Happens all the time to mango thieves in hawaii http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif
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Seriously though, if you DON'T want trouble, try to get on their level, and become friends or something.. if that's not gonna happen, talk to their mom. Calling the police will just piss off the kids, and make them want to do something worse.. http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/frown.gif ------------------ Ziroc Ironworks Webmaster www.tgeweb.com/ironworks |
Beat the living crap out of them and plead temporary insanity http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif
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No, wait, I got a better idea:
Step 1: Acquire a bucketful of roaches, a bucketful of worms, and a wasp's nest(With wasps). Step 2: Wait till it is midnight. Step 3: Pour the roaches and worms in through and open window or chimney or something(Their house of course). Step 4: Wait till next midnight. Step 5: Throw wasp's nest in through cellar window or down through chimney. Step 6: Wait. After that treatment they will probably flee because of the house being infested, either that, or they will at least leave for a couple of days while some exterminators clean out their house. |
If you have a couple grand in unmarked bills, I know this guy...
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LOL excellent idea! that will take care of those freeloaders!! http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...les/tongue.gif |
Or you could invite me and my redneck friends up for a weekend http://www.tgeweb.com/cgi-bin/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif only an hour away!
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Well I have had my share of bad & free-loading neighbors...I won't even begin to tell the stories~they go from throwing beer bottles from a second story onto my car for asking them not to play their music so loud and having to deal with light fixtures "danced" right off my ceilings, to theft of wood for a fence (LOL), to building fires underneath my windows, to outright death threats that restraining orders and calling police didn't help to stop.
I got to a point where I could not sleep or work from all the stress and being deprived of sleep for days on end when they would play some war movie over and over again at full volume and about six months later, after my car and motorcycle were stolen, when I was at my wits end and on the verge of losing everything around me for lack of money to pay for it all, abandoned everything to come here to Texas, leaving my eighteen year old son behind to sell the house and make his own way from there. Talk to their mother and explain the situation. Be tactful, if she is in any kind of financial bind, she'll understand yours and know that not only can you not support her family but that persistent abuse of your charity and outright theft can only result in turning the matter over to the juvenile authorities which will put her in a bigger financial bind. She isultimately responsible for what her children do and approaching the matter in a tactful manner will either put an end to the unwanted actions of her kids or make things worse for you. To do nothing will only be asking it to continue though. I don't recommend the sugar in the gas can thing until you are absolutely making no progress trying to go about it nicely (which it sounds like you are but try all else first...they will know that there was sugar in the gas when the gas tank has to be taken off and cleaned out...you are only asking for trouble if they know it was you and you would be putting the family in further financial troubles making things worse for you and your neighbors. Do lock up your valuables, maybe give them a gas can and tell them to work for the money to buy gas. Quote the bible to the kids, (that'll make them avoid you lol), maybe spend some spare time with them and teach them values they can carry into their adult lives in hopes that they don't end up the kind of folk I eventually had to run away from in a neighborhood I had owned a home in for seven years. Pray that they move lol. Good Luck with this situation and Bless you and your neighbors. Love, Hugs & Peace, Moni ------------------ http://members.aol.com/lasttrueprincess/images/ltp4.gif |
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