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Timber Loftis 03-20-2005 07:55 PM

Quick KOTOR2 question. Who is better character to develop -- Mandolore, Bao Dur, or T3.

I am on Duxun for the 2nd time and I already sent Handmaiden, Visas, and Atton on a mission, and they are not available now. I have to take the wench Kreia on a mission with me, and am left choosing between Mandalore, Boa Dur, and T3.

I'm assuming T3 will have limited use, and I'm prolly gonna take Mandalore v. Bao Dur. Bao Dur has some uses on the Ebon, but I can't see what he brings to combat. Especially when compared to Mandalore. But, I realize I may just be missing someting about Bao Dur.

So, please tell me how you use Mandalore, T3, and Bao Dur, and any thoughts you have about their overall usefulness.

THANKS!

Memnoch 03-21-2005 01:56 AM

Bao Dur makes it a lot easier for you to get through the enemy shields on Onderon. That probably gives him the edge over Mandalore IMO, for gameplay reasons.

Also depends what your fighting style is and how you developed these guys. In my game BaoDur was a ranged specialist and Mandalore was a melee specialist. Bao fit my party better. I don't reckon you'll need T3 at all.

I actually sent Mandalore on the mission (which Visas led).

Paladin2000 03-21-2005 07:26 AM

If you manage to convert him into a Jedi Guardian, he should be more powerful than Mandalore, plus it also depends on the skill let him proficient in. For me, he is very proficient in repair, demolition and computer, which is almost as good as T3... These are the skills that comes very handy in most of the situations.

Oh, since he is the only Jedi that cannot be equipped with a robe, the miners uniform that you found earlier should fit him rather well if you decided to let him use master speed.

Although the miners armor/uniform is pretty weak, master speed is very good to had since he will be leaping in and do an instant one-hit-kill (with dual lightsabers) most of the times.

Not to mention that you could upgrade some STR bonus underlays which makes him a very formidable attacker.

Riftmaker 03-21-2005 02:43 PM

If Bao Dur is a jedi, take him.

If he isn't, take Mandalore. Make Mandalore use Melee weapons (a Sith Tremor Sword if you have one).

the mighty stamar 03-21-2005 10:06 PM

um u know it really depends on whether u are light or dark side and whatt sort of droid upgrades u have.
If u have master heal its way better to have humans in your party I think. It weighs way above the stats and fighting. So mandalore and bas dur are both good. So in that scenario u have 2 jedis with heal and the third person doesnt really matter.

Mandalore with the range is better I think. baos force shield stopping power is entirely useless it has no point so dont weigh it in.

Timber Loftis 03-22-2005 12:43 AM

How does Bao Dur become a Jedi? And, yes... please spoil me.

Currently I'm on the urban world (Nar Shadaa?) trying to get the exchange to notice me -- and not having much luck. It seems I've hit a dead end on my search for Jedi, and I only found 1 (on Onderon).

Paladin2000 03-22-2005 07:10 AM

Bao Dur is a light side character by nature. Just bring him along when you do good deeds and you will gain enough influence to turn him. Of course since I have never played as a dark sider, I have no idea how to turn him to the dark side.

For specific details and actions requires to turn him into a Jedi, I would suggest you read one of the FAQs from GameFAQ.

To get exchange to notice you, you will have to be a) Do plenty of good deeds (lightsider)
b) Be as evil as you can.

Then, when you will have to wait for the trigger for the slavers to appear and kill/chase them off the Ebon Hawk.

After that, the exchange will contact you to set up a meeting.

Memnoch 03-22-2005 07:35 AM

I haven't managed to turn him yet actually.

Re Nar Shaddaa, I think I caused so much mischief that they couldn't help but notice me. :D

Memnoch 03-22-2005 07:50 AM

You need to return to the Ebon Hawk from time to time, to check if the slavers are there.

Dreamer128 03-22-2005 09:34 AM

I think leaving the Refugee camp after completing a number of quests triggers the Slaver attack.

[ 03-22-2005, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: Dreamer128 ]

Paladin2000 03-22-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreamer128:
I think leaving the Refugee camp after completing a number of quests triggers the Slaver attack.
Yeah, the same thing happened to me too. Usually after I negotiated extra space for the refugees (light sider).

Memnoch 03-22-2005 10:35 AM

Well, I "negotiated" with the tip of my lightsaber - and I was lightside too. :D

Timber Loftis 03-22-2005 10:40 AM

Well, I killed the one gang, killed about half the Gamoorean guard, ended up negotiating with squidhead to let the girl go and give more space to the refugees, blazed a bloody path so the one lady could be reunited with her hubby. Then I use the airspeeder to go back to the dock, but nothing yet.

Dreamer128 03-22-2005 11:20 AM

Don't use the speeder, Timber. Try the front door. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Timber Loftis 03-22-2005 11:24 AM

Okay, will do. That's be one quirky little bug, though, wouldn't it?

Luvian 03-22-2005 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Well, I killed the one gang, killed about half the Gamoorean guard, ended up negotiating with squidhead to let the girl go and give more space to the refugees, blazed a bloody path so the one lady could be reunited with her hubby. Then I use the airspeeder to go back to the dock, but nothing yet.
Negotiating with the squid guy (as in just talking, not killing him) is considered helping the Exchange. Doing this just canceled one of the act you did against them.

Are you sure you talked to the guy that lcaim your ship is his?

[ 03-22-2005, 04:12 PM: Message edited by: Luvian ]

Timber Loftis 03-22-2005 04:58 PM

I did talk to the guy who claimed my ship was his. I told him to prove it. He offered proof. I said you can't have it, and he said we'll see.

Regarding squidhead, I can't really find a way to pick a fight with him now. He met all my demands, and there aren't even any more containers for me to loot to piss him off. I ticked off all the Gammorreans I could, but dang it, so many of them just wouldn't fight me.

Timber Loftis 03-22-2005 04:59 PM

P.S. -- How do I get back to where the Handmaiden came from?

Timber Loftis 03-22-2005 07:06 PM

Are there no KOTOR2 forums online? An official Obsidian forum? Looks like Bioware spends a lot of time fending off those searching for KOTOR2.

T-D-C 03-22-2005 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Are there no KOTOR2 forums online? An official Obsidian forum? Looks like Bioware spends a lot of time fending off those searching for KOTOR2.
Hey Timber. The official Forums for KOTOR 2 are here

They are on the Obsidian Boards.

Timber Loftis 03-23-2005 01:42 AM

Thanks, guys. Found the Obsidian boards, and I think I found the answer on Nar Shadaar. Right now I'm with Mira, fighting to get Timber through the gates to the undercaverns of the um... you know.

What happened was as I approached the refugee camp entrance (having come back to the docks via airspeeder) was the whole sequence triggered -- causing me to backtrack to the Ebon Hawk, kickazz, and then go from there.

Memnoch 03-23-2005 11:52 AM

I forgot to tell you, if you're desperate, you can go and pay the little mouse guy in the Entertainment module 2000 credits for him to spread the word about you.

Oh, and I managed to turn Bao Dur into a Dark Jedi Guardian - gee he looks cool! :D

Thoran 03-24-2005 02:44 PM

When I went LS I didn't get Bao Dur to go jedi... I'm now trying again DS, he's got some unique skills that I find handy, and he's a pretty good unarmed combat melee guy (when properly skilled up)

Problem is, he's always complaining when I do the evil voodoo that a DS character does so well. I don't know if it'll work out or not.

Timber Loftis 03-24-2005 05:00 PM

Ran across this on Obsidian forums and thought it worth sharinng for a laugh:

Atton: So, how's our passenger? She still aging?

Female Exile: Cryptic, as always.

Atton: What a surprise. Just so you Jedi know, the whole cryptic routine isn't mysterious, it's just irritating. If you really can see the future, you should be at the pazaak table.

Female Exile: But to see the future, one must be able to listen.

Atton: What was that? Some kinda joke? That's what I'm talking about, Jedi Talk. You two should start your own little Jedi academy.

Female Exile: But to teach, one must be willing to learn.

Atton: Alright! Cut it out, I get it! I get it. Last Jedi in the galaxy, I get the comedian who runs around in her underwear. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.

Memnoch 03-25-2005 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thoran:
When I went LS I didn't get Bao Dur to go jedi... I'm now trying again DS, he's got some unique skills that I find handy, and he's a pretty good unarmed combat melee guy (when properly skilled up)

Problem is, he's always complaining when I do the evil voodoo that a DS character does so well. I don't know if it'll work out or not.

You can encourage him by doing impulsive, angry DS things - like making those two Exchange thugs throw themselves over the railing on Nar Shaddaa. You want him to ultimately give in to his anger, that's how to lead him over to the Dark Side. Just don't kill any innocents, none of them like that. :D


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