Just read an article in PC Gamer about BG3. Sorry but I could not find any links, but here are some highlights of the article.

-Not a direct sequel to BG1 and BG2
-will be using new 3D graphics instead of the Infinity engine
-"You want to see the fear in an orc's eye as you blast him with a fireball,
don't you?" -Atari Executive producer John Hight-
-set in early days of Baldurs Gate
-will use D&D 3.5 rules
-still deciding between real tiem and turn base combat
-party based with henchmen

If you look in the Misc. Games section you can see that this has been brought up already, Ill assume one of the mods will move this there.

Actually I did look and this is not the Interplay Baldurs Gate 3 but Atari's Baldurs Gate 3. According to the article there was a BG3 in development by Interplay but now appears dead.

Sorry, it might have been in General discussion, but I remember this coming up.

To me, BG3 news are a little like Elvis sighting news we hear sometimes...

Atari suck, if they ever do make BG3 and it's done by Atari, it will probably suck.

Personally, I don't care if a game is real time or turn based, as long as I can pause the game to give commands.

If it's not Infinity engine based it's not BG... good luck Atari but I'm sceptical...

The article was in PC Gamer magazine (news-stand) page 76 if you can find a copy and to quote from the article
"It's alive! We get the very early word on the RPG sequel that almost wasn't."

The Developer and Release Date are yet to be announced with Atari being the publisher.


Totally agree with you on Atari, but it looks like all games in the near future from the D&D world will be going through Atari, since they are the current liscence holders.

Does that mean it will have about 3 magical items in the whole game? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

(back in BG1)
"WOW! A +2 sword! AND a point of cold damage!?! It's even got a unique description!"

it could be with gorion and his time in candlekeep. that would be interesting indeed. another would be during the time of troubles where gods walked as mortals.

A long time ago, EBgames and Amazon had a release date for a Baldur's Gate 3 that didn't exist... http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...ons/icon15.gif

It also wouldn't be the first time a magizine announce something that does not come out.

In my opinion, if it does come out, it's just going to be an attempt to get some more money out of the franchise. I'm expexting a product with the quality and polish that Lionheart had.

If it's going to really be set in the begining of Baldur's Gate (does they mean the begining of the city, or the bhaalspawn saga) and it,s not related to the first two games, then it's probably going to have a sucky story with only the city it's happening aroung to justify the title.

As you can see, I don't expect much out of it. But I feel it's like Star Wars and the new movies.

What can you expect of a game, when the developers say the story is over, and then for no reason the new liscence holder decide to make a new one, with new devs?

Hell yes!!
That would be a great story, but they will probably make it about some "great war" between the humans and the fearsome Ogres or some crap lke that.

Don't go into something like BG3, especially something like BG3, with predispositions.

You'll selectively observe details as support your preconceived notions about it. You'll ignore the good.

That's a real mess in itself.

I'm smart enough not to let my predictions affect my judgement. Most of the games I like the most are games that I thought I would not like.

But I doubt I'll be wrong about BG3.

What really disapoints me the most about the track atari is going, is the henchmen istead of the NPC's. The mercenary nature of the henchmen really took away from the game experience in NWN. The NPC's in BG and BG2 made for a much more interesting game.

I hope I am wrong but I get the impression that BG3 will be closer in gameplay to NWN than to the BG series. Hopefully this isn't Atari just trying to milk the last drop out of the BG franchise.

I'll believe that when I see it. With luck, it won't have as many bugs as other Atari games. IIRC "Enter the Matrix" was Atari and that had so many bugs I never want to touch that game again.

Games that offer much promise usually fall short. I'm not keeping my hopes that high for this one. Especially news that Atari has got something to do with BG3.

I think you guys are pretty much the stereotypical opinion of most, and to me it isn't good. Although I am a bit skeptical, I am gona wait and see what this game is like, and try and enjoy it.

I think most people are gona get the game, and then criticize it on everything compared to the old baldur's gate games. If this happens then it won't be a very big hit. Because times have changed, technology has changed, of course things are going to be different. And I know Atari are reknowned for some particularly crap games, but they can also make a good game.

I just hope for the best... in my opinion, BG2 has set the standard- which is of course, very, very high- and will be difficult to surpass.

I agree Ross, but I also realise that it is going to be extremely difficult not to compare it to the original games.

My opinion on the npc thing is that they tried to make it more like pen and paper Dungeons and Dragons. In it you only control one character.

Sometimes when there were only a few players, I controled some hired npcs (henchmen) for them. Those usually get a part of the loot, and get a part of the xp, but less that players, and they usually can't be the same level or higher than the players.

What else should we do? When you go see a movie or game sequel don't you compare it to the first one?

You know what I dont think you understand....


Is that baldurs gate 3, will be made by bioware.

It will be the game they are already advertising as dragon age.

It will very likely be truly awesome. It will be related to nwn more than the infinity engine.

It will likely be out in 2007 or later.

From the article "Neither Atari nor the developer of the first two BG games, Bioware, would confirm whether BioWare will be involved in BG III or if BioWare's Dragon Age engine, ... , would be used."

Considering that Dragon Age's rules and world are said to be made from scratch by BioWare, and that I'd expect BG3 to use 3.5 DnD rules and FR, I'll keep failing at realizing just that :/

:rolleyes: Been reading about my ideas a bit, have you now Harks ;)

Does that mean it will have about 3 magical items in the whole game? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

(back in BG1)
"WOW! A +2 sword! AND a point of cold damage!?! It's even got a unique description!" </font>[/QUOTE]Which was a lot more exciting that the "Ho hum, don't trip over the *yet another* +3 sword that guy just dropped. Don't even bother to pick it up, it's not worth it."

If Atari makes it, I'm sure it will be the shining success ToEE was. :rolleyes:

Well, Icewind Dale didn't have that problem...

Yikes...now there is a bad memory. ToEE.
I have little respect for Atari after spending money on that turkey. Not to mention PoR:RoMD. They will not get another dime from me until I hear very, very, very good things about another Atari product. Both games had tons of promise but, ...well we know what they turned out like.

[ 09-05-2004, 11:36 PM: Message edited by: Wulfere ]

Dragon Age isn't BGIII. Believe me. I have connections. :D

Dragon Age isn't BGIII. Believe me. I have connections. :D [/QB][/QUOTE]


Don't suppose your connections can tell you whether or not Bioware will be making the game and if they are will it be based on the dragon age engine? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Dragon Age isn't BGIII. Believe me. I have connections. :D </font>[/QUOTE]Don't suppose your connections can tell you whether or not Bioware will be making the game and if they are will it be based on the dragon age engine? [img]smile.gif[/img] [/QB][/QUOTE]
Well, considering my connections are Bioware.... :D

They aren't making BGIII, so it won't be based on the Dragon Age Engine. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I don't understand how everyone thinks BGIII = Dragon Age = NWN2 or whatever weird comparison everyone comes up with. A quick research on the Bioware page shows more than enough info to withdraw this little assumption from the spotlights. :rolleyes:

[ 09-08-2004, 04:39 AM: Message edited by: Link ]

Don't let logic destroy a perfectly good fallacy!
:D

And Atari is making BGIII, right? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

And Atari is making BGIII, right? [img]tongue.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]If pigs could fly, Sir G ;)

Hey! Wasn't that your mother flying by on a broomstick? Or was it another figment of my imagination ;) [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I'm smart enough not to let my predictions affect my judgement. Most of the games I like the most are games that I thought I would not like.

But I doubt I'll be wrong about BG3. </font>[/QUOTE]Have to agree. Atari are terrible. Look at ToEE and NWN's. When they are behind the funding little gets done and less gets done right. The BG spinoff on console was very lame and I imagine the PC version would be like this. Yes, much has to be lost on console I know, I know but like Luvian said even that felt like another selling point, just letting the game take place in a well-known D&D city in order to reap the extra cash. The dark alliance spinoffs were little more than hack n slash with a dumbed-down version of and already dumbed-down system.

The only way possible to make this even work is to get Bioware and BlackIsle back together again and start from there. Then maybe. BlackIsle are gone and Bioware apparently has no real interest in it. I'd imagine if the two could somehow be consulted on it they'd decide that the franchise has already done what it needs to do in theory and anything more would simply take away from it.

I does suppose it's a human nature for people to prejudge a game before they even start playing with it yet. It seems that I myself don't escape from this predicament too. :rolleyes:

I kept no judications in advance for Doom3, I said to myself, I'll enjoy it, most probably, but for different reasons than I enjoy my favorites.

As a result, it's my favorite FPS action-heavy.

It would be nice if it was more open ended than the first two. I can't enjoy replaying them because I feel like I am being forced down a one way street. The first play through was fantastic but by the time I got through the third time I got board.

As far as I have realised, NWN 2 is being made on contract from BioWare(I think it was Relic entertainment but not sure and too damned tired to go and check it out.. sorry guys and gals). How and when it will be out and by what rules will probably be anounced later on. If D&D then by all misfortune it will be Atari.

Dragon Age is Bioware's own lil' baby. Correct, nothing to hold them back any longer which makes it by far one of the more interesting titles in a very long time. No evil corporate drones logging for rules lawyering nor creative shakles. If they say a Gnome is da uber killer so it will be ;)

BG3, is as much of a myth as it is a fake.
The only BG3 that would be worthy of the name would be yet another sequal to the Xbox line of BG games since they make no pretence to being the "real" stuff.

BG3 without the same or similiar engine and without the ingenuity of Bioware would probably (this is the place for miracles that actually can happen((I mean I never thought I would ever see a really good WH40k game, and well after a demo of Dawn of War I'm psyched..)) so the small probability that it might be good (still has alot to do with the company that is going to make it.

Now, would anyone really wnat a sequal to BG2, ToB that continued the saga in old 2:nd edition styled god wars? I was getting pretty tired of the last battles taking for ages to cast all the speels to do anything significant, get all characters back on their feet charge the dragons/demons/demi liches/goblin/etc.
For me BG2 came to a perfect and well deserved end.

I would rather see a grand new game with the same spirit and thoughtful story developed without riding the cheap wagon on BG game series name. Faerun is big and there must be more talented story/adventure writers out there.

Relic is surely talented. Anyone who played Homeworld knows this...