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cloud ff7 38 08-28-2003 01:12 PM

I find this game very boring the story line takes forever to get going and also you have to level up all the time i want to play not level up forever.
Anyway i need some help when you go to old miltia with jr. and stuff and then you go to that church and you see shions mothers hospital room im stuck there against that boss he is hard I cant even beat it with my a.g.w.s so im leveling up now... Its very boring anyway so what level should I be a right now my party is shion (lvl 21) Chaos (lvl 22) and Jr. (lvl 21) also what skills should i know.

Kakero 08-28-2003 08:35 PM

Is it Tiamat? okay, DO NOT let Shion attack him. when Timat is near death only then you MUST use Shion to kill him. Tiamat will then heal himself, this time DO NOT let Jr attack him. only when Tiamat is near death then you MUST let Jr finish him off.

I suggest you level up some more ( the Escape to Elsa part is a very good place to level up and get lots of gold ). get some good skill, also let Jr use his Physco Rocket to steal a good stuff from Tiamat.

GokuZool 08-29-2003 03:13 AM

I've heard Xenosaga is more like a movie, with hardly any gameplay at all. Is this true? Is it a good game?

[ 08-29-2003, 03:17 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

Kakero 08-29-2003 03:28 AM

well, slightly yes. The games cut scene takes about nearly 20 ~ 30 minutes while the gameplay can take like 10 minutes ( depend on you ). I end up looking more forward towards the cut scene then the actual gameplay.

it's not a bad game ( ala FF ) but with all the cutscenes you'll be forgetting that this is a rpg not a movie.

[ 08-29-2003, 03:30 AM: Message edited by: Kakero ]

cloud ff7 38 08-29-2003 01:01 PM

i beat him what i was doing wrong was using my a.g.w.s oops anyway xenosaga is like a move but there still is a lot of gamplay because the areas are really big and the stuff you've got to do is also challangeing.

Sythe 09-03-2003 08:59 PM

What I find annoying is that whenever you kill Gnosis you don't get cash.

Beoulve 09-04-2003 06:06 PM

Hahaha.

Xenosaga = crap.

Coming from someone with both CLOUD AND FF7 in their name.

Sorry if I come off rude, but I honestly HATE FF7, especially now that Sephiroth is more popular than MEGAMAN. WTF is with that? Seriously.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

GokuZool 09-05-2003 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beoulve:
Hahaha.

Xenosaga = crap.

Coming from someone with both CLOUD AND FF7 in their name.

Sorry if I come off rude, but I honestly HATE FF7, especially now that Sephiroth is more popular than MEGAMAN. WTF is with that? Seriously.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Pfftt..Megaman :rolleyes:

Who would you rather....

A goody-goody kid in a blue mech suit or a bad ass evil dude with a huge sword!? :D

[ 09-05-2003, 03:12 AM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

Beoulve 09-05-2003 03:59 PM

Hopefully, I can send this message this time. Damn the internet.

ANYWAY

Who would you rather have: A cheesy Dragon-Ball Z-ish character that is only beloved for his large weapon and bishounen looks, or a robot that is struggling to become entirely human that also happens to star in 20+ of my favorite games of all time, instead of 2 lousy ones?

Kakero 09-05-2003 06:06 PM

hehe, not only he is beloved for his so called large weapon and bishounen looks. people also "love" him for the role he played in Aerith death. the music at that part make it more dramatic. ;)

In KH, Sephiroth can travel dimension between dimension. he is undeafeatable. not even Sora can kill him. :D

Beoulve 09-05-2003 07:42 PM

Oh, geez, don't even get me started on Aerith. I mean, I'm the kind of guy that normally goes for the innocent chicks (FLONNE!!!), but even I didn't care when she died. The only reason it mattered was that my best spell-caster died.

And even I'll admit, Sephiroth wasn't totally lame in KH. Oh, wait. Yes he was. First off, the only reason he ws put in the game (and it was only for the American release) was that Square fanboys threw such a hissy fit of not having their favorite bishounen in a game that melded Square and Disney. Second, it's not even fun to attempt to fight him. Third, it goes back to the DBZ cheese thing. Super-immortal beings are so over-done and boring. You know how it's going to end up, everytime. The hero finally attains enough power to topple the mega-badguy! [img]tongue.gif[/img] Gimme a break, please.

Kakero 09-05-2003 07:46 PM

not really, I believe it's because of a certain someone complain that all he fought with was disney characters and not a single one of them is FF characters. that's why they put one there and they choose Sephiroth. ;)

Beoulve 09-05-2003 07:53 PM

Dude, did you actually play Kingdom Hearts?

You fight tons of FF characters.

Kakero 09-05-2003 07:59 PM

Tons? heh! all you fight with is Cloud,Squall and umm..what's that girl name? oh yeah in the first island you can "play" with Titus and Wakka.

Spehiroth wasn't originally in the game but they added it because of the reason I stated above.

edit : oh wait, you also got to fight with Black Mages. though look like Vivi to me.

[ 09-05-2003, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: Kakero ]

Beoulve 09-06-2003 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kakero:
Tons? heh! all you fight with is Cloud,Squall and umm..what's that girl name? oh yeah in the first island you can "play" with Titus and Wakka.

Spehiroth wasn't originally in the game but they added it because of the reason I stated above.

edit : oh wait, you also got to fight with Black Mages. though look like Vivi to me.

Every single one of them that is in the game except for Aerith, I think, you battle at some point, and they serve a much larger role helping out Sora (story-wise) than any Disney character.

Goofy and Donald don't count. Partly because they don't even help out.

Kakero 09-06-2003 05:32 PM

nope hun, if everyone of them is FF characters. do you think disney will join venture with square to produce this game? ;)

Sythe 09-08-2003 07:47 PM

Megaman this Sepiropth that cmon the coolest character is obviously...........Cloud!! Not this little blue robotic boy with a huge gun and this weird dude with super long hair with a giant butter knife (Katana) who keeps on speaking about "Promise Land" Who is completely INSANE(I cannot believe that I once admired Sepriropth [img]graemlins/1puke.gif[/img] )

Thats just my opinion though and I know Kakero and Beoulve think diffrently.

P.S. Cloud from Kingdom Hearts by the way.

[ 09-08-2003, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: Sythe ]

Kakero 09-08-2003 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sythe:
Thats just my opinion though and I know Kakero and Beoulve think diffrently.
I don't know what are you talking about.

GokuZool 09-10-2003 06:27 AM

Whoa, a thread about Xenosaga has turned into an FF thread. Who'd a thunk it?! :D

To conclude:

Megaman: = Cool (blue suit could look better)
Sephiroth = Cool (acts like a girl)
Aerith = Where did she come from? :D Cool, but Tifa is cooler! :D

Beoulve 09-10-2003 08:55 PM

Best video game heroine ever:

Etna

kthxbye

Sythe 09-12-2003 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GokuZool:
Whoa, a thread about Xenosaga has turned into an FF thread. Who'd a thunk it?! :D

To conclude:

Megaman: = Cool (blue suit could look better)
Sephiroth = Cool (acts like a girl)
Aerith = Where did she come from? :D Cool, but Tifa is cooler! :D

Igualmente Goku Zool. Tifa is cooler :D


Anyway I think this topic has come to an end.

cloud ff7 38 09-15-2003 10:32 AM

ok first of all seph rules hes the collest villan ever and ff7 kicks @$$ you probably didnt like it because you are too stupd to understand the concept of a game with a story and last most rpgs now a days are in at least one way based off of ff7

Zuvio 09-15-2003 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cloud ff7 38:
ok first of all seph rules hes the collest villan ever and ff7 kicks @$$ you probably didnt like it because you are too stupd to understand the concept of a game with a story and last most rpgs now a days are in at least one way based off of ff7
This board could do with a little less hostility cloud. Just because someone doesn't like a game, doesn't mean they're stupd.

And furthermore, rpg's are based off of games waaaaay back before the concept of FFVII was not even an impulse in the mind of a japanese game-developer. RPG's were already alive & kicking on the amiga and commodore ...

Sythe 09-15-2003 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cloud ff7 38:
ok first of all seph rules hes the collest villan ever and ff7 kicks @$$ you probably didnt like it because you are too stupd to understand the concept of a game with a story and last most rpgs now a days are in at least one way based off of ff7
Yeah what Zuvio said. Everyone has a right of their own opinion. Don't flame others just because one's opinions differs from yours.

GokuZool 09-16-2003 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cloud ff7 38:
ok first of all seph rules hes the collest villan ever and ff7 kicks @$$ you probably didnt like it because you are too stupd to understand the concept of a game with a story and last most rpgs now a days are in at least one way based off of ff7
What about Kefka? (FFVI)

He was one of the few FF badguys who were actually evil.

I agree, Sephiroth is a very cool villain and let's just leave it at that. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 09-16-2003, 08:52 PM: Message edited by: GokuZool ]

Beoulve 09-17-2003 05:43 PM

At least give REASONS in an arguement. I really don't mind getting flamed (I understand my abrasive nature tends to bring that out in people. I know, really bad habit on my part. I try to change, though), but give me firm "reasons", okay? I really didn't mean to tee anyone off.

And as for me not "understanding the story", far from it. I found the story to be overly, overly clichéd, for one, as well as a slight rip off of the previous FF game, which I loved. (Strong comparions can be drawn towards Shinra and the Empire, and Terra and Cloud, just for two quick examples.) The story is on about a 3rd grade reading level. All the characters sound alike. Blah blah, I've already explained this a million times on these boards alone, so I don't think I should carry on.

I highly, highly recommend you play something with a REAL interesting story (and a sense of humor, to boot), Disgaea. Or maybe Valkyrie Profile. Perhaps even the predecessor to FF7, FF6. Or another game bearing the FF moniker, FF-Tactics (which sadly sufferes from translation errors, but has an interesting story and TERRIFIC gameplay). These are just console games, as well. You want a super-mega deep story, I HIGHLY suggest you give Planescape: Torment a run. Totally cerebral. Loved the game to death.

Larry_OHF 09-18-2003 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cloud ff7 38:
ok first of all seph rules hes the collest villan ever and ff7 kicks @$$ you probably didnt like it because you are too stupd to understand the concept of a game with a story and last most rpgs now a days are in at least one way based off of ff7
<font color=steelblue>Cloud ff7 38:
When you say hurtful, mean, and angry things that are directed to other members of Ironworks, you put yourself in a position to be suspended or banned as a member. I think we have been very patient with you since you appear to be so young.

If I come across another post such as this one, your name will be submitted for suspension. I hope that is clear enough to understand. </font>

Kaltia 09-18-2003 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cloud ff7 38:
ok first of all seph rules hes the collest villan ever and ff7 kicks @$$ you probably didnt like it because you are too stupd to understand the concept of a game with a story and last most rpgs now a days are in at least one way based off of ff7
FF7? That was released before Dungeons and Dragons, then?

You have serious attitude problems. I was going to make a contribution to this thread, but your ranting put me off.

Grow up, dude.


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