Link (read the Q&A), link (read the Tim Cain Interview) [img]smile.gif[/img]
Looking forward to it?
Almost everything said about it sounds great, IMO... might be released in june *sits down'n starts waiting*

[ 03-28-2003, 07:50 AM: Message edited by: Gnarf ]

Yeah, I have great hope for this game. Many of us old time 1st Edition D&D players grew up in the world of Greyhawk and many of us have been wanting a CRPG from this setting for a long time. I surely hope Troika can deliver the goods.

cool, and it use 3rd edition rule too. but it's only coming out in June 2003.

damn that game looks good :D

YEah this game and Dungeon Lords should really make y summer a season to remember. ;) I have already instructed the hubby to get his hands on a copy of each ASAP! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Perhaps I've been sequestered in a rubber room somewhere, WillowIX, but what is Dungeon Lords?

Would be D.W. Bradley's next game.

Gnarf said it. We had a discussion about Dungeon Lords on the W&W forum since we are all fans of Brdley in that forum.

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/383/383489p1.html - some info about teh game and its huge system requirements.

http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/cg...c;f=4;t=007797 - our thread. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for the responses. By the way, will ToEE have a pause aspect to the game? And how does their turn base way of doing combat compare to the way BG1 and 2, as well as IWD, did their combat?

Combat will prolly be like Fallout'n Arcanum... just that you can control more chars, as you can make a party of... five, I think. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Gnarf, I have never played Fallout or Arcanum, so could you please explain the combat system? Also, do you know if there will be a pause option? I find the pause function to be critical in an RPG.

No need for a pause-function in turn-based combat [img]smile.gif[/img]
You get a number of action points each turn (the number's based on some stats). Every action you do costs action-points and when you've spent'em all, your turn is over. Now you'll watch every other character involved in the combat move, before it is your turn again... now you got new action-points to spend, and son and so on. There's also made rolls deciding who goes first...

So the time you spend deciding what to do in a fight won't affect anything, as you won't spend action points 'till you do something (and "game-time" won't pass).

I know that the rules for dnd are a bit different (each turn is one "move" and one "action" (?)), but as long as it's turn-based, time won't be a problem [img]smile.gif[/img]

Again, because I've never played a turn based game before, as you describe it, Gnarf, won't the combat be stilted, jerk like? Or is it smooth flowing?

I find turn-based combat better than real-time at just about every point... and I couldn't be of that opinion if I thought it was stilted, jerk like [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Man! I haven't seen the world of Greyhawk in YEARS!! Brings back memories, has anyone seen my copy of the "Chainmail" rules? hehehe...

Thanks for the link

You're thinking to much in the real-time mode. Turn based isn't more or less stilted or jerk like, it is, however, a totally different mode and for RPG's it's even better, imo, then the pausable combat of BG.

Okay, I haven't been clear enough in my inquiry into turn-based style of combat. I understand RTS and I understand the combat system of BG1, BG2, and IWD. For a comparison, please explain the similarities and differences between turn-based and what was demonstrated in the Baldurs Gate games.

Well, in BG, every combat was basically fought in real-time. If combat started, you paused and you could assign orders to your party members and when when you unpaused, everything would be played out in realtime again.
In turn based combat, you don't need to pause. Combat starts and everyone (ie your party and the opponents) each gets a certain score derived from one, or a combation, of their stats. This is the initiative role. After these rolls have been made, wich is done by the computer so it's instantanious, the character with the highest, or lowest depending on the system, number gets to act first. He makes an action and then the following one gets his turn and so on untill combat is finished. If you didn't use up your action points in one turn, you can choose to end your turn. The 'lost' action points aren't really lost because they are added to something else, in the case of Fallout, to your armor class.

Looks good. Though I've been told that system reqs. go through the roof :(

Been on the look out for this title for AGES...... anyone got any updates on release dates?