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Megabot 06-14-2002 10:19 AM

Is there anyone who have preordered Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos ?
I do it today and it look like it will be a greate game! It`s not a RPG but i like strategy games as mutch as RPG anyway! :D
It gone gold july 3 hehe OMG this will be greate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Deathcow 06-14-2002 10:23 AM

yes, im really looking forward to the next installment of the warcraft series, and i like the new look it has

....buuuut, i'll be hard-pressed to stop playing NEVERWINTER NIGHTS, which should get here in just 8 days!!!

Dundee Slaytern 06-14-2002 10:32 AM

I have been frequenting a forum where the beta-testers have been hanging out and based on their reports and screenshots, I am hard-pressed to choose between Humans or Night Elves.

Orcs are good, but somehow I just do not see myself as an Orc player. The Undead meanwhile, does not suit my playing style.

Megabot 06-14-2002 10:33 AM

haha me to Deathcow i have ordered that baby to hehehe!! :D so where to beginn? i dont knowe and i have got Morrowind for 5 days ago to so maby it is to mutch of the good i dont knove where to beginn!!

Neb 06-14-2002 10:37 AM

I'm going to be the Undead :D I don't have too high expectations for Warcraft III, though.

I honestly preferred the original idea where it would have more RPG elements. Now it's just an RTS with a few heroes that can level up. Nothing new there......

/)eathKiller 06-14-2002 10:41 AM

NWN and Warcraft III will probably be in a bit of competition from what it seems, did you know that Warcraft III has a GOLD eddition already for pre-order even though the original hasn't been released yet ?!? [img]tongue.gif[/img] Something seems... wrong there... LOL BattleNet is going to be Busier than ever i'm sure...

Deathcow 06-14-2002 10:43 AM

im not sure if i liked old RPG format or the newer RTS format better... although a warcraft rpg would be really cool, i still want it to be RTS because thats what I and II were

Deathcow 06-14-2002 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by /)eathKiller:
NWN and Warcraft III will probably be in a bit of competition from what it seems, did you know that Warcraft III has a GOLD eddition already for pre-order even though the original hasn't been released yet ?!? [img]tongue.gif[/img] Something seems... wrong there... LOL BattleNet is going to be Busier than ever i'm sure...
lol! good point....who here played diablo2 in the first few months of its release? b.net was horrible!

i remember the first night i had it, me and my fellow clan members were typing everything backwards to kill time because THE SERVERS WERE DOWN FOR HOURS!!! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

i leef tnedifnoc ni ym sdrawkcab gnipyt slliks, ta tsael... for whatever its worth [img]smile.gif[/img]

Suzaku 06-14-2002 10:51 AM

Play NWN because BNet is going to be so plugged up [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Just wait for StarCraft 2, although most ppl will still buy WC3. Someone played the Beta here?

Memnoch 06-14-2002 10:55 AM

Hi guys, I'm going to move this to our Miscellaneous Games forum, ok? It'll never get busy if nobody posts there. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Moved here! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Ar-Cunin 06-14-2002 12:10 PM

I misread the title as

Warlords III - Reign of Heroes

Computergame-makes doesn't have a lot of imagination apperently

Megabot 06-14-2002 12:39 PM

Sorry AGAIN Memnoch i posted in wrong place hehe i am a little upset because of all this great games that`s all !! :D God i love this world i have good girfriend AND worlds best games in my hand ! Hurrayyyyyy!!!and the best jobb good friends I am so happy!! :D

KAR_MOD1 06-14-2002 02:49 PM

*Spoiler*i played a beta version of the game.. its more like an rts than an rpg. you do have a hero and you do get skills to updgrade when they level.. but mostly you build up your base, harvest resources (wood + gold) and build an army to kill your opponents. The game is very very cool!

Lifetime 06-15-2002 03:32 AM

I've seen the preview movies for Warcraft 3 and I'm very impressed with how far graphics have come in the past few years. Still, I was all excited about the party-system where a hero will gain in skills, experience and all that and recruit units to his cause rather than just being a run-of-the-mill RTS. Its getting old I think. Theres nothing new in the RTS market anymore. Empire Earth, AOE2, Starcraft, Total Annihilation, all follow the same format. There aren't any new tactics, the *tough unit* rush still reigns supreme..

caleb 06-16-2002 03:01 AM

Whats the population limit [img]graemlins/question.gif[/img]

[ 06-16-2002, 03:02 AM: Message edited by: caleb ]

Dundee Slaytern 06-16-2002 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by caleb:
Whats the population limit [img]graemlins/question.gif[/img]
90 supply.

caleb 06-17-2002 02:00 AM

Damn all population limits are dissapointing after Shogun :(

[ 06-17-2002, 02:01 AM: Message edited by: caleb ]

Dundee Slaytern 06-17-2002 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by caleb:
Damn all population limits are dissapointing after Shogun :(
Got to remember, Warcraft 3 is not about an all out and out RTS game. It is a game where you have hero characters supported by several strike teams. This is not about war of the nations, but large-scale guerrilla warfare.

Warcraft 3 will also test how well you can micromanage, because judging from what the beta-testers have said, he/she who do not micromanage, will fall. No more brainless mass swarming in short.

You will have more than enough to handle with all the micromanagement. ;) Trust me, there is a lot. Had the supply been bigger, people would have tore their hair out trying to micromanage a huge army with so many options in real-time.

Rimjaw 07-07-2002 07:10 AM

I'm halfway through the undead campaign and the game is quite enjoyably. Like Dundee said, theres micromanagement involved in the form of upkeep, which drains your gold supply depending on the size of your forces. This is also to prevent rushing in multiplayer.
As for the game itself, what I'm dissapointed in is that alot of elements in this game were rehashed from starcraft (the undead are some combination of the zerg and protoss). It seems like Blizzard have got their games recipe, and they follow it by the book. :(

Lifetime 07-07-2002 10:30 AM

Just got the Collector's Edition of Warcraft 3, with full Art Of Warcraft, soundtrack, cinematics DVD..
I'm having so much fun playing with the extras I got in the leather bound box that I'm barely touching the game..

SecretMaster 07-07-2002 10:45 PM

Hey guys, don't forget bout World of Warcraft, the RPG from Blizzard. But I don't see to well of it. I will be playing as Orc, Humans, n Undead. They seem really cool. But i have Morrowind and NWN to play first. It seems the gaming business will be in BIG competition.

Bahamut 07-07-2002 11:17 PM

Warcraft III is awesome... :D

Hey Lifetime, do they have the archer artwork in that pretty box? Man I am looking for a wallpaper of that girl!!! I am Night Elves forever!! :D

Rimjaw 07-07-2002 11:25 PM

I got the Undead Cover. WHile it looked cool at first, after a while I got tired of it. Should have got the night Elf Cover *grumble*

Bristowe 07-17-2002 11:51 AM

Um..hey, does anyone know whether the collector's Ed. is only available to buy online or is it in shops as well? Cos i dun have a credit card...arrgh...eh?
Thanks

Rimjaw 07-17-2002 11:54 AM

They are selling it off the shelf here so you should be able to get it in your country.

Niadh 08-23-2002 05:31 PM

It was off the shelves in US, but in europe I know you have to buy it from mail order.

Lox 08-27-2002 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lifetime:
I've seen the preview movies for Warcraft 3 and I'm very impressed with how far graphics have come in the past few years. Still, I was all excited about the party-system where a hero will gain in skills, experience and all that and recruit units to his cause rather than just being a run-of-the-mill RTS. Its getting old I think. Theres nothing new in the RTS market anymore. Empire Earth, AOE2, Starcraft, Total Annihilation, all follow the same format. There aren't any new tactics, the *tough unit* rush still reigns supreme..
I would disagree that there's nothing new in the RTS market. I think Starcraft and TA added a lot to the genre.

From TA we got an ever expanding unit list. Sure not every unit got used, or was extremely useful, but you did have a lot of options in terms of strategies to employ. I haven't played it, but I am told that the "uberhack" version address a lot of complaints that players had with various parts of the game. But I the thing I liked most about TA was the renewable resources. No longer could you turtle until your opponent ran out of resources. I have also got to mention the "mostly" 3-D environment. No more of this flat featureless battle field.

Now I have never been a huge fan of the *craft series. Warcraft 2 was cute and fun, but didn't grab me as much as TA. When Starcraft came out I wasn't too excited, but they blew me away with the races. Finally someone was able to come out with sides that were balanced without having the exact same units with different colors. Sure the Arm had the Spider Tank and the Core had the Krogoth, and the Warcraft 2 spell casters had different spells, but for the most part the tech trees and unit lists were very similar. With Starcraft not only did we get truly unique units, we got truly unique races that developed differently, produced units differently etc. To me that was Starcrafts true strength.

I passed up Warcraft III for Morrowind partly for the $10 price difference and partly for the promise of more gameplay from MW, so I don't know if they have broken any new ground. But when I look back to Dune 2 (one of my all time favorites) and I compare it to todays (or last years) games I have to say that there have been significant improvements. Of course the games are basically the same (collect resources, build army, kill) but otherwise they wouldn't be RTS's.

I've gone on long enough, so I will only mention in passing another RTS (Homeworld) that certainly merits discussion.

But


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