does anyone else think that you should be able to combine these two classes, coz i really want to make a stalker/mage...

The use of Wizardly magic cannot really be combined with the Ranger/Druid, as it goes against the natural order.

I suppose Elves could do this, as magic is part of their nature, but since you can't multiclass sub-classes in AD&D rules, this ain't happening...

Of course, it is very easy to use Shadowkeeper to do this dual or multiclass, but combining an Archer with a Mage could be a bit overpowered...

yea, it would be cool. i think it allows it in Neverwinter nights!

That would be fun! Who needs the Bard, we have a character that has better magic, better fighting skills and priest spells, at the cost of only a little bit of thieving skills and a harp [img]smile.gif[/img]

Talk about a powerful all-round character ;)

I don't think the correct term is "fun", I think you meant to say perhaps "over-powered" or maybe munchkin...

The powerful combination ever would be a Sorcerer/Cleric/Psionic, three types of power, Sorcerer for offense and defense, Cleric for healing and by using the correct metapsionic science you would be able to use your psionics while casting either cleric or mage spells at the same time, also, for being a sorcerer, you would be allowed to use mage robes and scrolls, cleric skills would include wielding maces and warhammers as well as using clerical scrolls, imagine then, if you used your psionic skills to create an Empowered warhammer or mace(Capable of speaking, thinking and using psionics.), you would then be able to, in one round, cast either clerical magic or a sorcerer spell, also, two times psionics, once from you and once from your item, imagine the power and carnage.......

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Kaleban:
I don't think the correct term is "fun", I think you meant to say perhaps "over-powered" or maybe munchkin...<hr></blockquote>

Really? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I think a ranger-assasin would be cool. That way, he could lay traps and poison his weapons.

some people think it would be overpowerd, not really, theres the slow advancement, no armour for the mage side of things, and you could remove the automatic two points in two weaponstyle that theranger gets

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Neb:
The powerful combination ever would be a Sorcerer/Cleric/Psionic, three types of power, Sorcerer for offense and defense, Cleric for healing and by using the correct metapsionic science you would be able to use your psionics while casting either cleric or mage spells at the same time, also, for being a sorcerer, you would be allowed to use mage robes and scrolls, cleric skills would include wielding maces and warhammers as well as using clerical scrolls, imagine then, if you used your psionic skills to create an Empowered warhammer or mace(Capable of speaking, thinking and using psionics.), you would then be able to, in one round, cast either clerical magic or a sorcerer spell, also, two times psionics, once from you and once from your item, imagine the power and carnage.......<hr></blockquote>

Why didnt I think of that? Brilliant! I shall go try :D :D :D

Truly a powerful combination, if they allowed it, expect MAJOR restricitons. Also, stalkers do get a crappy repritorie of mage spells, so they are kinda mages.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by chinese noodle:
some people think it would be overpowerd, not really, theres the slow advancement, no armour for the mage side of things, and you could remove the automatic two points in two weaponstyle that theranger gets<hr></blockquote>

No armour for the mage??
Havent you ever heard of elven chain??

There's a reason that rangers and mages don't multi (and I agree that dual is really a case of game balance): their jobs are totally incompatible.

On the one hand, you stay indoors all day studying from books and scrolls.

On the other, you're involved in a six-week trek guiding *somebody* over the Matras...

On the one hand, your notion of home involves someplace that keeps plenty of writing materials, and is parchment-friendly.

On the other hand, your notion of home involves truly minimal indoor space, and lots and lots of really rugged terrain, with as many animals as possible hanging out right around you.

So, what do you say to your bear buddy when he accidentally knocks over a priceless brazier filled with imp's blood? And how do you keep sharp on your wilderness skills when you've been sitting in one place working on spell research for a week by lamplight?

I wanna know why you can't have a mage/druid. That is allowed by AD&D 2E rules and that is what the BG games are based off of....

-Jafin

I'd like some sort of a trapper/hunter style of Ranger... someone who could set traps and fight well. If the Ranger could *detect* and *remove* traps that would really be sweet, but unnecessary.

Stalkers always seemed kind of pointless... IMHO traps fit into the Ranger ethos better than backstabbing. So many early woodsmen relied upon traps to survive, but who ever heard of backstabbing a moose or bear? Traps and arrows are a *much* more survivable option. :)

-- Nifft

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by chinese noodle:
does anyone else think that you should be able to combine these two classes, coz i really want to make a stalker/mage...<hr></blockquote>
Thats a preety good idea exept if you have a large stalker it'll take forever to make the mage part as big plus I don't think you can combine the two.