I'm up to the point now that I can get Cernd. He seems to be pretty good from what I hear, but I'm pretty used to Jahiera. I've been using her since the early goings in BG1.

Any suggestions as to who is better? And why?

I would choose Jaheira, cause she is just as good spellcaster as Cernd, and she is a usable fighter to.

Though i dont see jaheira growing claws and rejuvenating with a
25 cons. ....

Cernd is far superior to Jahera.

One Word "werewolf".

You might be right about that, daan and BALROGBANE, but Jaheira can change to a wolf and both brown- and blackbears.

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And your point is?

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And you point is?<hr></blockquote>

Ok, Cernd may have an advance there. But I still thinks that Jaheira is the better choice!

Seriously though Cernd's level moves up quicker and he kicks mind flayer but as a greater werewolf.

Are greater werewolfs immune to psionics? Why is Cernd that effective?

I am wandering around in Chap 2 (loving it, my first time playing) as an Archer. I have Jaheira and Cernd (and Aerie, Minsc and Yoshimo). I feel like I need more muscle up front. Using the druids as animals deprives me of their spell casting and tehy don't seem to be able to take much damage.

Should I drop one of them? What NPC should I pick up for some good fighting and high HP?

Also, is it _possible_ to get a druid up to 14th level and take over the grove? Would One be better? I dig the idea of getting a druid that high in levels. But Cernd is only level 10 and level 11 seems so far away.

I think you should drop Cernd, and pick up Keldorn. He is a good fighter, and he has several good abilities such as true seeing.
If you want the druid grove, you must be a druid yourself, and be level 14.

Where is Keldorn?

Should I trust you? Are you a keldorn-pusher?

Forget Keldorn! Go for Korgan!

He kicks Keldorns Ass.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jordi:

Where is Keldorn?

Should I trust you? Are you a keldorn-pusher?<hr></blockquote>

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To get Keldorn, you must agree to help the Temple of Helm. You can then find him in the Temple district-sewers.
And believe me, you can trust me. Why else would I be a member in Keldorns Order if I didnt knew about him?!

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And you must not follow BALROGBANE's advice! Because Korgan and Aerie will start to fight, so if you want to keep Aerie, dont choose Korgan! (And BALROGBANE, Keldorn would kick Korgans butt if he was equipped with Carsomyr+5)

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
And you must not follow BALROGBANE's advice! Because Korgan and Aerie will start to fight, so if you want to keep Aerie, dont choose Korgan! (And BALROGBANE, Keldorn would kick Korgans butt if he was equipped with Carsomyr+5)<hr></blockquote>

Aerie sucks anyway. Kill her and get Edwin.

I KNOW Korgan would smite Keldorns holy behind all over the place when equipped with Crom Fayer and any half decent sheild.

Sir Exxon is right (I will remember that Exxon!). Keldorn's is a really good Paladin. When you find gauntlets of dexterity give them to Keldorn and he will be a killin machine!

Yeah, a much better killing machine then Korgan!

Hey, Sir Byronas!
I just discovered that we both have the same things in our sigs! We both have one from the Keldorns Order, and one from the DragonMage family! :D :D ;)

I think your both somewhat biased both being members of the bum licking order of Keldorn.

Watch your mouth, BALROGBANE!
The Keldorns Order is so strong that it goes beyond your imagination! You are soon on the same level as Omegakiller and AngelofDeath, and if you have paied attention, you will see that Omegakiller is just recently defeated by the Keldorns Order, and we can do just the same to you.

Jaheira is much better than Cernd, provided you give her the girdle of hill giant strength. She then does between 15 and 20 damage, can wear full plate mail armour and a good, heavy shield, plus she can cast lots of spells.

And Keldorn is pretty good too, but not brilliant. I prefer Anomen.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
Watch your mouth, BALROGBANE!
The Keldorns Order is so strong that it goes beyond your imagination! You are soon on the same level as Omegakiller and AngelofDeath, and if you have paied attention, you will see that Omegakiller is just recently defeated by the Keldorns Order, and we can do just the same to you.<hr></blockquote>

How can you hurt something that feels no pain?

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How can you hurt something that feels no pain?<hr></blockquote>

Well, pain is only a minor detail...if you chop him up in little pieces and bury them along the whole sword coast, he won't be able to do much damage :D

Oh by the Helm here we start again! Excuse me, why all the enemies of Keldorn's Order cannot feel pain? Why do we have to fight always undead creatures?

Who said anything about being undead. I simply ment that this is viertual and not physical.

What the dickens?

I think you need to have a reality check?

Reasons why i choose Jaheira over Cernd (doesnt mean that shes better though)

1) She can cast spells because shes usually in normal form (bear form sucks), and If Cernd wants to cast a spell, he has to change from greater werewolf, cast, and switch back to WEREWOLF (that is with the max cap without ToB)

2) Can wear armor, she has -7 AC as opposed to Cernd's -2 AC
3) She can wield high +dmg thaco weapons
4) Shes at the beginning

Cernd levels up faster. Anyone konw what a greater werewolfs claws are counted as?

Thanks guys for all the suggestions. Still undecided but I think I'm leaning toward Jaheira.

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Guk73:
Thanks guys for all the suggestions. Still undecided but I think I'm leaning toward Jaheira.<hr></blockquote>

Your welcome, Guk! :D A great choice! I promise, you will not regret it!

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
Watch your mouth, BALROGBANE!
The Keldorns Order is so strong that it goes beyond your imagination! You are soon on the same level as Omegakiller and AngelofDeath, and if you have paied attention, you will see that Omegakiller is just recently defeated by the Keldorns Order, and we can do just the same to you.<hr></blockquote>
Lord Exxon, I'm impressed. My main character is a Paladin. How can I join Keldorn's Order? If it's kill a dragon, I've killed 2. By the way, I can't stand Korgan.It's interesting that he fights with Aerie, but if he did that in MY party, I'd kill him, myself.

You sound like a great paladin to have with the Order, Galadria! You also have great qualifycations to. What you do is to tell our leader Sir Byronas that you would like to join the Order. You do that by do the entry test. You can find this at www.angelfire.com/realm2/byronas/Becomeme.html
Answer the questions, and mail them to Sir Byronas, along with your IW-name. The subject is Entry test for Keldorns Order. Sir Byronas will mail you in a few days, to let you know if you are a member or not.
Let me know if you are accepted.
GOOD LUCK, MAN! WE NEED MORE MEN LIKE YOU!

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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Sir Exxon:

GOOD LUCK, MAN! WE NEED MORE MEN LIKE YOU!<hr></blockquote>


:rolleyes: I thought Galadria sounded like a female, actually.

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:rolleyes: I thought Galadria sounded like a female, actually.<hr></blockquote>

Me too! Er, sorry Sir Exxon :D

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Melusine:


:rolleyes: I thought Galadria sounded like a female, actually


Originally posted by Arledrian:

Me to! Er, sorry Sir Exxon :D <hr></blockquote>

Allright then. Galadria, we need more women like you.

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