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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 02:57 PM

I don't know, but irenicus is the biggest a-hole i have ever seen. He casting time is super fast, he looks too cool with him glowing, and castin two timestops in Suldenessar, thats just cheap. I hate him, and he is annoying.

Lord Exxon 10-19-2001 03:03 PM

Well, it is natural to hate Irenicus, he has, after all, stoled your soul!
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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 03:14 PM

Yeah, but it's just not fair. Just becauze he was an idiot and got exiled, dosen't mean he can be invicible. I don't see any other elves like that!

mitsos 10-19-2001 04:24 PM

He is no longer an elf, he's a "fallen one", But yeah, he's a pain in the ***.

Montravant 10-19-2001 04:48 PM

U can be like him if u want. Use Shadowkeeper http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. By the way isnt Irenicus a little too tall to be an elf http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif.

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Istaron 10-19-2001 05:28 PM

I cast spells faster than Irenicus-san http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif He cast so fast cause he has the Robe of Vecna. Well, I posses that one, AND the amulet of power, so I am slighty faster than he is.
And you know... whn you are a level 29 mage, you will also be able to do two timestops.

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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 05:44 PM

Thanx guys, and continue ideas. I never played as a mage, so it is new to me. But only Edwin really could get that far with spells, Nalia maybe, Imoen maybe, Airie no, but thanx. Oh Istaron, nice chocobo u got there!

Synthos 10-19-2001 05:48 PM

Think about it this way.. If I was Irenicus.. I would go even cheaper to keep my own butt alive and kicking....
I would use three time stop spells if I could.. Summon hordes of creatures.. Lay TONS of traps, then run, hide and rest..


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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 05:50 PM

Irenicus is impossible. really now, i'd like to see your mage stone a cowled wizard with protection spells on him, and HE survives like 60 death spells and such. If he was really that powerful, he could just destroy u anytime he wants to, not to mention all of Aklathka

Montravant 10-19-2001 06:37 PM

Hehe I can cast fast magic and do them without even stopping. But u got to have shadow keeper for this one. Ok heres wat i did i made a mage I equiped him with the robe o vecna, then i let him memorized the spell aura cleansing (its the spell u can find in the shadow keeper). Then wen ur in a game simply cast the aura cleansing and let'er rip http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif.

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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 06:42 PM

Improved Alcaricity is a mage spell in TOB that makes no pause between spells, plus robes of Vecna, plus power amulet =Total havoc. Thought this up now. You could go crazy with this. I don't have shadow keeper, but all well, i'll figure somthin out. Its just the principle of the thing. He's bullsh*tly strong, and he could wipe out anyone. But think of this, wouldn't you see if he wore robes??? Or is he just to "Special" for Black Isle to make him have robes??

Mirac Honorguard 10-19-2001 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Istaron:
I cast spells faster than Irenicus-san http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif He cast so fast cause he has the Robe of Vecna. Well, I posses that one, AND the amulet of power, so I am slighty faster than he is.
And you know... whn you are a level 29 mage, you will also be able to do two timestops.


Where can this robe of Vecna be found?? and SecretMaster, be glad Irenicus is not a wild mage, cause that would really suck.



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Montravant 10-19-2001 06:46 PM

Lol,dont worry about Irenicus too much he'll die anyways. He aint one of the good guys http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif.

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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 06:47 PM

they can be found in BGII special edition. I do not know a site that has a download for that, but ask around, someone's bound to know. Yup, he'd be too powerful if he was a wild mage. But consider this, they proably didn't think of a wild mage, so he would'nt be one, or so we think....

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Mirac Honorguard 10-19-2001 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Montravant:
U can be like him if u want. Use Shadowkeeper http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif. By the way isnt Irenicus a little too tall to be an elf http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...iles/smile.gif.



He's the Exile, formerly known as Joneleth, lover of Ellesime (man what a loser to listen to his sister and dump that chick) brother of Bodhi, blablablablabla and he damn well is/was an elf, but I guess his form as an Elf was taken as well (did they take his underware as well???? http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif ) BTW, did you see that this guy's head is stitched together....I wonder.....http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...es/biggrin.gif


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SecretMaster 10-19-2001 06:55 PM

Robes of Vecna can be found in BGII special edition. Don't worry, but i don't know the download, ask someone, they'll know. Yeah, i know he'd be invicible being a wild mage. Think of this, they mighta not thought up of the Wild Mage while making the game but we'll never know...

andrewas 10-19-2001 08:11 PM

(just an aside, why do people keep asking for download sites in a world with yahoo et al? its on blackisle.com i think. just download the latest patch. hell i think its on ironworks itself)

Irenicus is a product of his own experimentation, driven by his desire for revenge, and hatred of the elves. you expect him to be normal? as ive said b4, special interesting characters can and should have special abilities.

oh, and timestop? run away, cast monster summoning 1 (well, any summoning will do, but this is funniest) and send one of the results (probly a rabid dog or a worg) toward ren. laugh, and repeat. no more timestops. cheap, but who cares.

SecretMaster 10-19-2001 08:16 PM

andrewas, thanx for the info, but i did that. But take his advice, its the best you'll get. And thanxs for backround info on him!

Mirac Honorguard 10-20-2001 01:48 PM

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andrewas, thanx for the info, but i did that. But take his advice, its the best you'll get. And thanxs for backround info on him!
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Synthos 10-20-2001 01:57 PM

All mages have a limited number of spells (usually ie: Kangaxx and his imprisonments) So just keep sending wave after wave of summoned or gated creatures... I'm not sure but some of them will damage him a little.. So don't be afraid to use all those charges on your wand of monster summoning unless you really want to save them for ToB or other parts of SoA (cough, cough)

Istaron 10-20-2001 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by SecretMaster:
Improved Alcaricity is a mage spell in TOB that makes no pause between spells, plus robes of Vecna, plus power amulet =Total havoc. Thought this up now. You could go crazy with this. I don't have shadow keeper, but all well, i'll figure somthin out. Its just the principle of the thing. He's bullsh*tly strong, and he could wipe out anyone. But think of this, wouldn't you see if he wore robes??? Or is he just to "Special" for Black Isle to make him have robes??
That robe is invicible on him. Just like his "Undroppable Helmet without animation". Check his stats with ShadowKeeper

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Istaron 10-20-2001 02:24 PM

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Originally posted by Synthos:
All mages have a limited number of spells (usually ie: Kangaxx and his imprisonments) So just keep sending wave after wave of summoned or gated creatures... I'm not sure but some of them will damage him a little.. So don't be afraid to use all those charges on your wand of monster summoning unless you really want to save them for ToB or other parts of SoA (cough, cough)
Have you even beaten BG2? If you have, you should know that Jonoleth turn himself into the Slayer in the final battle. That means, he is imune to normal wepons (wich the monster-summong creatures uses) AND regenerates

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Synthos 10-20-2001 02:31 PM

Yes i know that, but creatures are not for hell, for the battles Before.. The creatures are only meant to waist Jonny's spells...

Lucre 10-20-2001 05:29 PM

Just use the cloak of Mirrors or reflection (i forget which one fires back spells), it can kill allsorts like beholders even Irenicus

Barry the Sprout 10-20-2001 05:52 PM

I don't know what you are on about! Irenicus is easy if compared to some of the other mages in the game. I am afraid I was actually a bit disappointed when I got that far... fortunately it wasn't the last battle in the game otherwise I would have had to have complained bitterly. If you use the tactic of running in and out of his vision and then rushing him with fighters he goes down very easily - he doesn't have the HP's for a big fight. Now Kangaxx, that is a proper spellcaster...

SecretMaster 10-20-2001 07:08 PM

U guys r funny. Irenicus is hard, and wut is he, a child of Bhaal, cuz he becomes a slayer. I just got back from NYC, i saw a broadway show.

Dundee Slaytern 10-20-2001 11:10 PM

Jon Irenicus becomes a Slayer because... *GASP!* he stole your divine soul. He is disappointing in the last fight though... especially if you have two or more Mages... amazing what Khelben's Warding Whip and a couple of Breaches can do to an 'almighty' wizard... ...

Kangaxx in his Lich form, is a decent spellcaster, in his Demi-Lich form however... he is easily a push-over... ...

Personally? I think the Irenicus fight on the Tree of Life is the nicest Mage versus your party fight. In SoA of course.

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Synthos 10-21-2001 12:54 AM

It depends on your playing style and how smart you are... He's the end boss.. He's meant to be difficult for a reason.. Same with ole' Sarevok in BG1 and every other rpg you play. He's not immposible, many have beaten him.. you just got to do trial and error

Tsantlar 10-23-2001 10:52 AM

Hey Synthos,

Got a question for you http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/ponder.gif Where did you come up with that name? I have been using that exact same name for I don't know how long now in multiple games for characters. I have never seen anyone else use it before. I am just wondering if you stole it off of me http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...miles/wink.gif I can't even remember now when I made it up...probably about 8 years ago. Well if you didn't steal it off of me, glad to see someone has some good ideas about names!

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