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Aragorn1 10-16-2001 11:02 AM

Don't know if this should be here or in the polls forum,but who do you think is the spellcasters in the game( including clerics druid mages or any combo of the two)

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StarVid 10-16-2001 11:14 AM

who do i think is the best spellcaster?

Me and my wild mage (that I will have as soon as I buy ToB)

I'm even better than Edwin. Sure, he can cast more spells, but he can't cast them like me. I will Nahal's Reckless Dweomer his arse.

Seriously though, if you're going for uber, I'd probably say a cleric/mage. They have all around more versitile abilities, and more spellcasting ability than any other class, but if you're going for fun, I'd go for the wild mage, on the off chance that I can make it rain cows.

Quoting the descripton of Nahal's Reckless Dweomer:
"The attempt usually fails, but something almost always occurs in the process."

Emphasis on "something"..

[This message has been edited by StarVid (edited 10-16-2001).]

Fuzzy Animal 10-16-2001 11:40 AM

I really like my druid, but I am
dying to try a sorcerer.

Lord Exxon 10-16-2001 12:30 PM

I agree with Fuzzy Animal, the druid is best! Although the mage has the strongest spells.

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Bruce The Aussie 10-16-2001 04:01 PM

Sorceres's rock. i'm currently playing one now but i'm really pissed because i just learned they can only get to level 31. this is unfair. this means they only get 4 level 8 & 9 spells in their spell list. also only getting 6 spells per level per day is kinda unfair but i can deal with it. but only 5 memorised spells per level is just... unfair. Heh.
just my two cent's (or in my case penny's) :S

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StarVid 10-16-2001 04:23 PM

I agree with you Bruce. Most of the spells are either useless, or can be subed with another spell. I can handle only having 5 spells in my book, but the only thing keeping me from playing a sorcerer is that I can't be a wild sorcerer (at least not without cheating). If there was a legit mix of the two (perhaps giving the extra spell per level as well), that's what I would be and nothing else.

Lazarus 10-16-2001 04:26 PM

My character is a Mage/Mage cause they can learn all the mage spells.. (So they are fit for adventuring alone or maybe not..)

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Drifter 10-16-2001 10:44 PM

I've always used a specialist mage whenever i've started a seroius game. The specialist mages, or mages of any kind, just kick any other classes but. I mean, after a certain point, the mage can tackle pretty well anything thrown at it.

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Fuzzy Animal 10-16-2001 10:54 PM

I don't think I ever saw a mage
handle a creeping doom!!!

Dundee Slaytern 10-17-2001 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fuzzy Animal:
I don't think I ever saw a mage
handle a creeping doom!!!

I hate those... the only way to avoid it is by Magic Resistance.

Hmmmm... ...

Sorcerer would be my first choice,
then Necromancer,
then Wild Mage.

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Heh heh, now that I am finally starting to use Time Stop regularly, I am itching to play a Sorcerer and try it out.

For those who want to go to level 40 in their Mage or Sorcerer class, you can try the Xp cap remover from the following URL.

http://members.home.net/mrkevvy/ToB/...andcheats.html

Be warned though... this will affect Multi-classed and Dual-classed characters too. I am not using it, despite the temptation of maxing out my level 8 and 9 spells.

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If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Cavalier meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a Blade and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On".

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[This message has been edited by Dundee Slaytern (edited 10-17-2001).]

tehmpus 10-17-2001 02:20 AM

I love to play wizards as well in D&D, but although they have alot of multiple uses and are quite fun, warriors are truely the ubber class. Sure, in a one shot fight, I'd give the advantage to a wizard who can shoot off his highpowered spells to good effect, but a warrior can just keep on chopping and slaying and slaughtering. There is no need to rest when you've got a talented warrior in the group. From a power standpoint, the D&D classes are not balanced one bit. Let's face it, it's a roleplaying game meant for the characters to act out different personalities, and enjoy an adventure of dialogue and thought. For Baldur's, we're talking about mainly a hack and slash scenario.. so why bother with a thief or cleric type?

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Archon Devangilous 10-17-2001 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tehmpus:
For Baldur's, we're talking about mainly a hack and slash scenario.. so why bother with a thief or cleric type?
i dont mind you taking it out on clerics but thieves thats goin a bit far!! how can a warrior hack and slash when the thief he couldnt see or hear snuck up and stuck a dagger in his spine??

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tehmpus 10-17-2001 06:24 AM

Considering that a warrior would probably survive such a cowardly blow with more HP left than the Cutpurse had to begin with... I imagine, that he would calmly turn around, blocking the assassin's next blow with his handy shield, and proceed to carve the little fool into tiny little pieces of meat. Just a guess.


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Dundee Slaytern 10-17-2001 06:35 AM

I suppose your warriors like being petrified or disintergrated by traps; or maybe being swarmed by Wraiths and a dozen STR-sucking Shadows. Hey is that a Mind Flayer? No problem! I love being psionic-stunned and having my brains sucked out! Oooo! A locked door! I think I will just bash it down instead of lockpicking it and sacrifice some Xp. I have buttloads of Hp, but that Dragon just hit me with a Critical Hit, too bad I do not have a Cleric to instant heal me with a Heal spell, guess it is time to run around for a while drinking health potions. Etc... ...

While it is possible to play the game without a Cleric and/or a Thief, they make the game much much easier and can aid you in many encounters.

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StarVid 10-17-2001 09:27 AM

No kidding. I like to keep as few warriors in my group as possible. In a group of six, I usually have at least 4 spellcasters, actually 5 if you count Jah. And technically, Minsc can cast spells, so actually, I have all spellcasters. But seriously, mages can have a much easier time of the game than a warrior. You don't believe me? Make your own party of 5 warriors (and a thief because they are kind of necessary), and another party of 5 mages (and a thief), and see who has an easier time.

If I ever MP'd, I'd love to duel my wild mage against your fighter...but I don't so that's that.

Neb 10-17-2001 09:30 AM

The most powerful spellcasting class is the Sorcerer, he can cast more spells than any of the others and you don't really need all the variety that the other classes have, I completed SoA using no more than 10-13 different spells, also, he does not need to memorize spells and therefore you don't have to remember to memorize flame arrows or acid arrows against trolls or identify if you suspect that you will find magical items.

Nifft the Nimble 10-17-2001 10:17 AM

Avengers, Wild Mages and Sorcerers are my favorites.


Cleric/Mages are great, too, but Aerie is there if you want to try one out.


It's really too bad that there isn't an option for a Druid/Mage or Druid/Thief.


-- Nifft

tehmpus 10-17-2001 10:35 AM

Dundee, I wish I could have responded to your note a bit sooner, but Im currently at work. My comment pertained to the character class of your main (personal) character. Im sorry if that wasn't obvious. Certainly rogues and clerics serve important functions in any group. My point was simply that warriors were more powerful than either of those classes in a classic D&D setting, and was a logical choice as a main char in Baldur's gate. My other note was a response to someone who apparently thinks that rogues can whoop up on warriors in single combat *cough*. No matter, I suppose the moral of the story is that a balanced group of classes is certainly best, but we were talking about the power level of the main. That's all.

Byronas 10-17-2001 10:48 AM

Best Mage : Edwin
Best Druid : Jaheira
Best Cleric : Anomen
Best full spellcaster(!) : Aerie

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Dundee Slaytern 10-17-2001 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tehmpus:
Dundee, I wish I could have responded to your note a bit sooner, but Im currently at work. My comment pertained to the character class of your main (personal) character. Im sorry if that wasn't obvious. Certainly rogues and clerics serve important functions in any group. My point was simply that warriors were more powerful than either of those classes in a classic D&D setting, and was a logical choice as a main char in Baldur's gate. My other note was a response to someone who apparently thinks that rogues can whoop up on warriors in single combat *cough*. No matter, I suppose the moral of the story is that a balanced group of classes is certainly best, but we were talking about the power level of the main. That's all.
Ah I see, hmmmm... although it is the general opinion( at least over at the Black Isle Forums) that the main char is meant to be a Mage/Sorcerer, with Fighter second.

As for Thief vs Fighter... eh... depends on the situation. In a man to man fight, the fighter will most certainly cream the thief, but if the thief uses sneaky tactics such taunting and luring you to a area filled with traps... well you get my point.

Cleric vs Fighter... eh... I guess the Fighter will win. A Mage/Cleric or a Ranger/Cleric will be a different matter though.

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If not a Sorcerer casting total oblivion, then a Cavalier meting out justice. Otherwise, I think I will just be a Blade and torture my enemies with, "My Heart Will Go On".

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StarVid 10-17-2001 11:57 AM

I dunno, Dundee, about the cleric v. fighter duel. In BG2, clerics get some really beefy spells. Granted, they generally have some long casting times, but if you can get a couple off, it could make it a pretty even fight.

Dundee Slaytern 10-17-2001 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by StarVid:
I dunno, Dundee, about the cleric v. fighter duel. In BG2, clerics get some really beefy spells. Granted, they generally have some long casting times, but if you can get a couple off, it could make it a pretty even fight.
Therein lies the problem, at least Mages have Sequencers and all that. Clerics have to ominani ominani ominani ominani...

By the time they finish casting all their buff spells, the fighter would have finish drinking a mug of mead, taken a piss, danced in the tavern and polished his sword. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/tongue.gif

Okay, so I exaggerate a bit, but you get my point. The fighter will just simply interuppt all the cleric's spells.

StarVid 10-17-2001 12:33 PM

yeah, that's true, especially if the fighter is using ranged weapons.

Oh well, I'm always a mage anyway. http://www.ironworksforum.com/ubb/no...les/tongue.gif

Aragorn1 10-17-2001 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Byronas:
Best Mage : Edwin
Best Druid : Jaheira
Best Cleric : Anomen
Best full spellcaster(!) : Aerie


I Agree With this



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Morgan_Corbesant 10-17-2001 02:16 PM

i have a 31st level sorceror, that ive used to go through the game twice now (not actually finishing it though) i tried to solo the last game, and got pretty far, but it just got boring, i needed a good mix of stuff. anywho, just be carefull when using the xpcap remover. if you go above level 40 with a spell caster, they wont be able to cast spells, unless this is just a bug on my system alone. but it was that way for all of my characters that i did that with. my mage, sorceror, and cleric. needless to say, i wont cheat again.

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